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Weekly Garden Thread - May 21-27, 2022 [The Language of Flowers Edition]
May 21, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 05/21/2022 6:57:35 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ll have to look at this. I like pesto on Italian bread and pasta, but unless you have a garden it’s expensive to make from scratch. Kale is relatively cheap - and healthy.


101 posted on 05/24/2022 8:31:55 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
I usually substitute walnuts for some or all of the pine nuts, too. Those pine nuts are expensive!

We planted a Stone Pine about a decade ago, for the pine nuts. Seeing as it's the slowest growing pine tree on the planet, we should have some pine nuts in 100 years or so, LOL!


102 posted on 05/25/2022 5:52:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: MomwithHope
Another convert in the making! It's SO good for you; one of those veggies that gives you a lot of bang for your buck. I love it raw in salads and cooked in soups and quiche. Still trying to love it cooked like spinach, but not having much luck, LOL!

You turned me on to Shishito peppers and I turned you on to kale. You can plant it in a 5 gallon bucket if you need to and it can tolerate some shade. It's better after a frost in the fall, IMHO.

This season I am growing 'Dinosaur' Kale and ''Prism' Kale:


103 posted on 05/25/2022 6:04:59 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

One of the reasons I avoided kale or spinach is I was advised by my doc years ago. They are both high in vitamin K and I have been prone to dvt’s and blood clots. I am on a blood thinner now probably forever, so I figure it’s OK to eat now. Got my seeds at the local hardware - variety is Red Russian. Can you save seeds from kale?


104 posted on 05/25/2022 7:20:54 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

“Can you save seeds from kale?”

You and I don’t have a long enough growing season to get them to go to flower and set seed in one season. If you cover them and let them overwinter, or we get a big dump of insulating SNOW before we get the frigid temps, they’ll bloom in the spring if they make it.

Mine overwintered year before last, and they did go to flower, so I left them alone so the pollinators could enjoy the flowers, but then I pulled them because they were taking up valuable real estate in the garden.

“How to Save Kale Seed (and Why I Probably Won’t Do It Again)”

https://rootsandboots.com/how-to-save-kale-seed-and-why-i-probably-wont-do-it-again/


105 posted on 05/25/2022 11:38:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-victory-garden

The Victory Garden.

Don’t just Consume, Produce. Our parents did it, and so can we.

“If people let government decide which food they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny”

Thomas Jefferson

106 posted on 05/25/2022 11:56:24 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Pollard
Every year is a Victory Garden as far as I'm concerned! :)


107 posted on 05/25/2022 1:22:01 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good to know thanks. Just planted them.


108 posted on 05/25/2022 2:00:58 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Daffynition; Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra
"**What ridiculous prices.** Even the cost of seeds is ridiculous. Making gardening a very expensive hobby; too bad B/C it's so fun and satisfying. "

See the previous discussion regarding seed viability. You do not get as many seeds as you do from Johnnies or Territorial, but you can stock up. (How many tomatoes will be be growing??)

Seeds 'n Such To:Pete (@ Shawnee Mission)

https://seedsnsuch.com

"Celebrate Memorial Day with 35% off!

You read that right. Our 35% off sale is continuing for just a few more days. Make sure to stock up on fantastic seeds at a great price. Just use code 2022THANKS at checkout to get your discount!"

109 posted on 05/25/2022 2:13:05 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It’s 67 degrees and raining yet again here in Ctrl MO. Lettuce victory is mine.


110 posted on 05/25/2022 2:28:23 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Pine tree slide! Nice Stone Pine! (Bay of Naples in the back ground?)

Don't plant this, at least if you expect any pine nuts for you or your great grandchildren!

https://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?taxonid=284962&isprofile=0&cv=5

Common Name: lacebark pine
Type: Needled evergreen
Family: Pinaceae
Native Range: Central and northern China
Zone: 4 to 8

Picture of young lacebark pine at Missouri Botanical Garden:

Lacebark pine to the east of the Main Hall at Jogyesa (Buddhist Temple) in Seoul, South Korea (Under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Korea license.)

Pinus bungeana

When young, they have mottled bark. After 200 years or so they turn all white. There are 800 year old trees at Chinese Temples.

https://www.conifers.org/pi/Pinus_bungeana.php

NW China (Silba 1986). Hardy to Zone 5 (cold hardiness limit between -28.8°C and -23.3°C) (Bannister and Neuner 2001).

"[I]t was first seen by Dr. Bunge near [Beijing] in 1831. It was subsequently found in the mountains of Central China by Wilson, and is cultivated by the Chinese in the vicinity of temples and cemeteries. It grows naturally amongst limestone rocks, with widely spreading roots and branches" (Dallimore et al. 1967)."

The collector of this pine Professor Bunge had a hard time collecting seeds to propogate...everytime a pine cone fell, the locals would quickly try to grab it for the pine nuts!

111 posted on 05/25/2022 3:33:01 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

112 posted on 05/25/2022 3:56:23 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Pollard

Lettuce! It almost wilted away during that 90 degree plus stretch! ( 66degrees F & More rain coming your way!)


113 posted on 05/25/2022 4:35:42 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pollard

“Lettuce victory is mine.”

We’ve got cooler temps again and mid-60’s today and a FULL 1/2” of rain. Lovely, slow, SOAKING rain! And no wind tearing apart my greenhouse! And tornadoes southeast of us, but not on us! Yay!

However, we may win this Battle, but still lose the War. Let’s not get too cocky! Plenty of destructive bugs, blight, drought, raccoons, deer, rabbits and Tomato Hornworms ahead. ;)


114 posted on 05/25/2022 8:28:53 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We are in the woods and gave always encouraged the insect eating birds. We can watch them foraging in the garden for worms and bugs. They are very effective. Even just a clean birdbath in your garden will help.


115 posted on 05/26/2022 5:48:47 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

Our place is a bird haven - very little bug damage to anything and lots of ‘good’ bugs to keep things in check.

I was just speaking in general terms of what lies ahead of us this season. ;)


116 posted on 05/26/2022 5:52:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: All; Jonty30; BenLurkin

Garden Thread Cross-Ping:

This 700-Year-Old Farming Technique Can Make Super Fertile Soil:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4066537/posts?page=1


117 posted on 05/27/2022 6:21:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard
5/23/22

5/27/22 after rainy weather

Sunny now and will quickly be going from cloudy, 60-70 by day to sunny, 80-90 by day. Maters and peppers will be jumping up with that weather and I better start eating leaf lettuce/greens. One of my komatsuna plants close to camera in that middle row has a yellow flower. I'll be planting those earlier from now on. Might let that one go to seed and quickly start eating the outer leaves on the rest to hopefully slow them down.

118 posted on 05/27/2022 2:09:49 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Are vidalia onions a good storage onion?


119 posted on 05/27/2022 3:29:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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To: All

Found an interesting tip on a community fb page.

“Painting bright red rocks and setting them out amongst your strawberry plants before they are ready will help protect them from birds. The birds learn that they can’t eat the bright red rocks so when the strawberries ripen they don’t draw the birds attention. “

The photo posted showed small red rocks that almost looked like strawberry slices set around the plants. Clever!


120 posted on 05/27/2022 4:40:50 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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