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My organization has a “Men’s Forum”
Ask a Manager ^ | 4-11-22 | Alison Green

Posted on 04/11/2022 1:06:08 PM PDT by Brookhaven

My organization recently sent out an email announcing its annual “Men’s Forum” and I immediately felt icky about it. To me, it feels different than a women’s forum or an ERG for minorities because it focuses on a group that, historically, is not marginalized. For context, I work in finance which has a history of “the good old boys club.” The email even mentions “men and their allies” which also feels wrong to me.

Ick, yes. What is the event’s mission? Unless it’s to be an ally to women and other marginalized groups in your field or office, what exactly is the need it’s responding to? Affinity groups exist to help demographics that have been systemically marginalized and kept out of spaces controlled by the dominant group. The point is to level the playing field in places where it’s unbalanced and good lord, that’s not men in finance.

If this “Men’s Forum” exists to provide special networking or development opportunities to men, it’s hard to see it as anything other than a hostile response to similar efforts for women and people of color.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: culturewars; men; mensgroup; society; workplace
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To: libh8er

Of course. That should be assumed.


21 posted on 04/11/2022 1:31:49 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Eleutheria5
And what about Native American men.

There are old East German movies where the Indians always beat the white man. Sauerkraut Westerns.

Wikipedia actually has a nice page on this and gets it mostly correct.
22 posted on 04/11/2022 1:32:45 PM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: IC Ken

HR trap.


23 posted on 04/11/2022 1:33:34 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: jimtorr; All
This. The “culture” is trying to over-correct for real and perceived issues going back generations. As a result there is their own toxicity. BLM madness last summer is symptomatic where even I questioned whether the people closest to me saw me as a person or as a skin tone. That is damaging and toxic. It’s dividing. And it’s a way to weaponize and bully. Power trip, control, rage, domination and, of course, PROFIT.

MAGA was always about inclusion and everyone having opportunities and winning. Trump understands we aren’t living a zero sum game. More success breeds success. Unity and freedom, bonding as Americans not through identity politics, is an extinction level threat to the Leftists who are about keeping as many as possible on a plantation. As the late Rush Limbaugh said after the 2020 election, the Left seeks unity through fascism.

24 posted on 04/11/2022 1:37:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (“We Did It Joe!” -The Taliban / “Thanks Joe!” -Putin)
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To: Brookhaven

Personally, I think companies should get tux of all of these divisive little groups. If you must, have groups like Employee Recreation Associations that plan group activities and such without any focus on gender, race, etc.

Like it was in the 80s and 90s.


25 posted on 04/11/2022 1:38:27 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

…get *rid of…


26 posted on 04/11/2022 1:39:20 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Brookhaven

That is total woke bs.


27 posted on 04/11/2022 1:39:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: FLT-bird

Its called misandry


28 posted on 04/11/2022 1:40:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fruser1

“The only group institutionally discriminated against in the US today are white males.”

I can’t think of any other society or cultures in history (before the current era) that used the power of the state and other large institutions as hate groups directed at its own founders and creators.

That is one reason why so many white males remain in denial.


29 posted on 04/11/2022 1:42:38 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Brookhaven

Ask A Manager is a forum for overpaid neurotic college-educated women in unproductive office jobs who make their own problems by being unable to separate their feelings from their work.

It unwittingly underscores every argument that ever been made about letting women into certain professional and business positions.


30 posted on 04/11/2022 1:45:12 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Brookhaven

It sounds like someone in her workplace has a sense of humor.


31 posted on 04/11/2022 1:55:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: cgbg

according to former neighbors that were legal immigrants from jamaica and barbados the american white man is to be punished for the atrocities and misery he inflicted upon the native american indians and the black man during the founding and development of our country...


32 posted on 04/11/2022 1:57:15 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Brookhaven

A tranny org?


33 posted on 04/11/2022 2:24:38 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe 10)
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To: Brookhaven

White men are the most discriminated against in the country.

All affirmative-action laws are aimed at them.

The reason everybody else needs affirmative-action is because they are inferior.

Prove me wrong.


34 posted on 04/11/2022 2:30:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: Brookhaven

ReEEeeEEEEEEE REE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!


35 posted on 04/11/2022 2:51:19 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

OK, you win the thread.


36 posted on 04/11/2022 3:15:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Brookhaven
My rule of thumb is my employment is there to serve the currently contracted customer. Nothing more. No ERGs. No other corporate culture movements. Avoid it all. It's a distraction.
37 posted on 04/11/2022 3:19:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: grey_whiskers

8^)


38 posted on 04/11/2022 3:32:36 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Brookhaven

Maybe she should watch a few commercials and see who is always portrayed as the idiot.

Maybe she should watch more commercials to see if the percentage of white males in the commercials is even close to the percentage of white males in society.

Maybe she should look at whites, particularly white police officers, being convicted of crimes after kangaroo courts.

Maybe she should look at the demographics of mayors, police chiefs, and fire chiefs in major U.S. cities.

I’m sure there are many more examples.


39 posted on 04/11/2022 3:52:36 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: IC Ken

Is this whiner a biologist? If not, she needs to shut up.


40 posted on 04/11/2022 6:39:33 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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