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A Weird Paper Tests The Limits of Science by Claiming Octopuses Came From Space
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 28 DECEMBER 2021 | MIKE MCRAE

Posted on 12/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger

A summary of decades of research on a rather 'out-there' idea involving viruses from space raises questions on just how scientific we can be when it comes to speculating on the history of life on Earth.

It's easy to throw around words like crackpot, rogue, and maverick in describing the scientific fringe, but then papers like this one, from 2018, come along and leave us blinking owlishly, unsure of where to even begin.

A total of 33 names were listed as authors on this review, which was published by Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology back in August 2018. The journal is peer reviewed and fairly well cited. So it's not exactly small, or a niche pay-for-publish source.

Science writer Stephen Fleischfresser goes into depth on the background of two of the better known scientists involved: Edward Steele and Chandra Wickramasinghe. It's well worth a read.

For a tl;dr version, Steele is an immunologist who has a fringe reputation for his views on evolution that relies on acquiring gene changes determined by the influence of the environment rather than random mutations, in what he calls meta-Lamarckism.

Wickramasinghe, on the other hand, has had a somewhat less controversial career, recognized for empirically confirming Sir Fred Hoyle's hypothesis describing the production of complex carbon molecules on interstellar dust.

Wickramasinghe and Hoyle also happened to be responsible for another space biology thesis. Only this one is based on more than just the origins of organic chemistry.

The Hoyle Wickramasinghe (H-W) thesis of Cometary (Cosmic) Biology makes the rather simple claim that the direction of evolution has been significantly affected by biochemistry that didn't start on our planet.

In Wickramasinghe's own words, "Comets are the carriers and distributors of life in the cosmos, and life on Earth arose and developed as a result of cometary inputs."

Those inputs, Wickramasinghe argued, aren't limited to a generous sprinkling of space-baked amino acids, either.

Rather, they include viruses that insert themselves into organisms, pushing their evolution into whole new directions.

The report, titled "Cause of Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?", pulls on existing research to conclude that a rain of extra-terrestrial retroviruses played a key role in the diversification of life in our oceans roughly half a billion years ago.

"Thus retroviruses and other viruses hypothesized to be liberated in cometary debris trails both can potentially add new DNA sequences to terrestrial genomes and drive further mutagenic change within somatic and germline genomes," the authors wrote.

Let that sink in for a moment. And take a deep breath before continuing, because that was the tame part.

It was during this period that a group of mollusks known as cephalopods first stretched out their tentacles from beneath their shells, branching into a stunning array of sizes and shapes in what seemed like a remarkably short time frame.

The genetics of these organisms, which today include octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish, are as weird as the animals themselves, due in part to their ability to edit their DNA on the fly.

The authors of the paper make the rather audacious claim that these genetic oddities might be a sign of life from space.

Not of space viruses this time, but the arrival of whole genomes frozen in stasis before thawing out in our tepid waters.

"Thus the possibility that cryopreserved squid and/or octopus eggs, arrived in icy bolides several hundred million years ago should not be discounted," they wrote.

In his review of the paper, medical researcher Keith Baverstock from the University of Eastern Finland conceded that there's a lot of evidence that plausibly aligns with the H-W thesis, such as the curious timeline of the appearance of viruses.

But that's just not how science advances.

"I believe this paper justifies skepticism of the scientific value of stand alone theories of the origin of life," Baverstock argued at the time.

"The weight of plausible, but non-definitive, evidence, great though that might be, is not the point."

While the idea is as novel and exciting as it is provocative, nothing in the summary helps us better understand the history of life on Earth any better than existing conjectures, adding little of value to our model of evolution.

Still, with solid caveats in place, maybe science can cope with a generous dose of crazy every now and then.

Journal editor Denis Noble concedes that 'further research is needed', which is a bit of an understatement.

But given the developments regarding space-based organic chemistry in recent years, there's room for discussion.

"As space chemistry and biology grows in importance it is appropriate for a journal devoted to the interface between physics and biology to encourage the debates," said Noble.

"In the future, the ideas will surely become testable."

Just in case those tests confirm speculations, we recommend being well prepared for the return of our cephalopod overlords. Who knows when they'll want those eggs back?

This research was published in Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology.

A version of this article was first published in August 2018.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; astronomy; cephalopods; crevo; cryptobiology; edwardsteele; fredhoyle; fringe; godsgravesglyphs; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; science; scientism; sirfredhoyle; wickramasinghe; xplanets
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To: zzeeman

Your start was better than mine. By my 3rd guess I knew 1 letter and in the wrong place.


1,201 posted on 01/28/2022 5:34:50 AM PST by ArGee (2022 has to be better than 2021. I keep telling myself.)
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To: ArGee

That sounds really whacky!


1,202 posted on 01/28/2022 5:36:10 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: ArGee
I was lazy/rushed, or something... on the second row I used a word that did not have a letter in it that the first row declared in use... I usually try to avoid that.

On the third row it was a complete guess using the two letters I knew were in it, and some of the other eligible letters.

I was actually sure that my 4th row would be correct and was disappointed at the lack of green squares revealed...

But locking in 1st and 3rd letters (and the 2nd by inference) gave me about 90% confidence that my guess in the 5th row would be correct.

Certainly not the most disciplined approach...

1,203 posted on 01/28/2022 5:43:23 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: Tax-chick
Explorer!
1,204 posted on 01/28/2022 5:45:34 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: zzeeman

Well, since I was the winner of all spelling bees all the way through school, it’s quite a blow to my ego. But, like I said, I won’t give up!


1,205 posted on 01/28/2022 6:12:53 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: ArGee

Thanks, but the sooner I don’t have to depend on anyone else, the better off I’ll be.

Yep, sorting coins would be right up Igor’s alley. He used to drive me nuts with his mini-hording and his OCD behavior. I will certainly understand if your M-i-L runs kicking and screaming from the house.

Life is too short.


1,206 posted on 01/28/2022 6:17:43 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: ArGee

W00t! You certainly don’t need any w00t-whack! Good job!!


1,207 posted on 01/28/2022 6:18:40 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: Monkey Face

Actually, it’s the reverse. M-i-L will not want to ever leave the house again for fear of what my wife and her father would do next.


1,208 posted on 01/28/2022 7:51:15 AM PST by ArGee (2022 has to be better than 2021. I keep telling myself.)
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To: Monkey Face

Yeah, 3 in a row! I obviously have to do more owrk.


1,209 posted on 01/28/2022 7:51:41 AM PST by ArGee (2022 has to be better than 2021. I keep telling myself.)
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To: ArGee

Ah. Sorry. I misunderstood. Not hard to do in these days of stress. ;o]


1,210 posted on 01/28/2022 8:13:40 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: ArGee

I just finished my letter to Charlie, so I didn’t do today’s Wordle. I haven’t even checked Facebook this morning. Unngh!


1,211 posted on 01/28/2022 8:14:46 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: ArGee; zzeeman; Tax-chick

Got the Wordle in four today!


1,212 posted on 01/28/2022 9:18:17 AM PST by Monkey Face (~~Somewhere, someone is showering with a mask on. I just know it. ~~ Facebook)
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To: Tax-chick

May the snow be with us


1,213 posted on 01/28/2022 10:01:33 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them )
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To: no-to-illegals

I hope not. I’m too busy!


1,214 posted on 01/28/2022 10:07:52 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick

May the snow not be with us


1,215 posted on 01/28/2022 10:13:00 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them )
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To: Monkey Face

WooHoo!!!


1,216 posted on 01/28/2022 10:27:28 AM PST by ArGee (2022 has to be better than 2021. I keep telling myself.)
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To: no-to-illegals; Tax-chick

May the merchandising be with us.

Or was that the Schwartz?

I never actually saw the movie, so I’m not sure.


1,217 posted on 01/28/2022 10:28:13 AM PST by ArGee (2022 has to be better than 2021. I keep telling myself.)
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To: Monkey Face

That’s the way to approach it, never give up!


1,218 posted on 01/28/2022 10:29:58 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: Monkey Face

Good show!!


1,219 posted on 01/28/2022 10:30:14 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: ArGee

I remind myself of Barf


1,220 posted on 01/28/2022 10:33:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them )
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