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Hospitals in New York region say they've run out of antibody treatment for omicron variant
NBC ^ | 21 December 2021 | Shannon Pettypiece and Stephanie Ruhle

Posted on 12/22/2021 12:43:55 AM PST by blueplum

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To: blueplum
things that didn’t work for wild virus

You are perhaps unaware of Uttar Pradesh: a province of 241 million people that solved the pandemic by giving their citizens Ivermectin.

21 posted on 12/22/2021 2:32:14 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Qilin
they don’t want to get vaccinated due to some wackadoodle internet nonsense they’ve bought into.

Here's some of that 'wackadoodle internet nonsense'. Over 6000 tweets from people reporting vaccine injury and death.

Sign up to twitter: go in to this thread and tell them they're wrong.

22 posted on 12/22/2021 2:37:15 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: blueplum
Federal supply..

That pretty much tells the story.....

23 posted on 12/22/2021 2:39:08 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: blueplum

Is there nosocomial spread of the coof by vaxxed superspreader employees in NYC hospitals?

That would explain a lot, wouldn’t it...


24 posted on 12/22/2021 2:59:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: HYPOCRACY

They just found out about Omicron two weeks ago … it already spread to every country… and now they’re out of antibodies. Sounds like they had a timetable to get this done on.


25 posted on 12/22/2021 3:04:10 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: blueplum

Still no admitting that there are effective early preventative and treatment methods, I see.


26 posted on 12/22/2021 3:34:53 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: agere_contra

I’m well aware of Uttar Pradesh - home of the Kappa variant, July 2021, pre-vaccine.

Ivermectin might have helped those that had worms, but the wave of Delta in Uttar in 2021 killed over 22,000 in a short period of time - some dying from lack of oxygen and oxygen rationing inside and outside of hospitals on the street. How could that be if ivermectin was so great as a early treatment? What saved Uttar was mass vaccinations. They are now over 76% vaccinated and aiming for 90%. Only 9% surveyed said they’d refuse the vaccine.

https://scroll.in/article/1013100/how-vaccine-fatigue-in-uttar-pradesh-could-be-addressed-with-behavioural-science
https://www.firstpost.com/india/no-death-due-to-lack-of-oxygen-during-covid-19-second-wave-claims-uttar-pradesh-government-10216211.html

But are we to believe the govt of India is stupid? That they would spend all that money on getting people vaccinated if an off-the-shelf actually worked? Or that everyone in Uttar Pradesh is stupid, too? That they would take a vaccine after the wave is over, instead of a home remedy? Are we to believe the RECOVER study and the McMasters Study that showed no benefit, and no benefit in any South American country, or the Japanese, are all wrong?

And the question still remains, why would something with low efficacy against a weaker virus in 2020 suddenly have higher efficacy against a stronger virus in 2021? Ivermectin resistance is well documented; worms can build resistance but a virus can’t? That’s a lot of wishing to try to make something true.


27 posted on 12/22/2021 3:36:20 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

It’s NY so I could care less. Another self imposed emergency based on piss poor planning and political science.


28 posted on 12/22/2021 4:08:50 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: blueplum

Hmmm, I just looked up treatment sites last night for my wife. She has bronchitis and just tested positive for covid at the nursing home she works at. I’m thinking the bronchitis will put her in the high risk group and she’ll be approved for monoclonals. The closest place isn’t too far and luckily, in the opposite direction of the city. Going to make some phone calls this morning and pull out medical papers showing her condition and prescriptions for albuterol as inhalers and liquid for the prescribed nebulizer. I’ve got everything for the Zelenko/FLCCC protocols here but would feel better if she could get the monoclonal infusion.


29 posted on 12/22/2021 4:32:05 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: blueplum

“the monoclonals and vaccines are free”

No they’re not. Until they fall to the ground from vaccine trees and monoclonal trees, we taxpayers are footing the bill.


30 posted on 12/22/2021 4:34:26 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Pollard

Prayers for a full recovery for your wife, Pollard.

Will you be starting on the protocols, even if she does get monoclonals? That’s our plan (well, especially since we wouldn’t qualify for monoclonal anyway).


31 posted on 12/22/2021 4:41:42 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

If you’re already hospitalized, it’s too late to have that treatment. Doctors know that.

Try Ivermectin.


32 posted on 12/22/2021 4:50:09 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Democrats CANNOT win without violence and/or cheating)
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To: blueplum

Nothing is FREE.


33 posted on 12/22/2021 4:51:22 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Democrats CANNOT win without violence and/or cheating)
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To: lastchance

AND ..... the borders are still open.

unvaxxed, diseased people are flowing freely into our country.


34 posted on 12/22/2021 5:00:07 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Democrats CANNOT win without violence and/or cheating)
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To: blueplum

They sent out the Ivermectin after the wave of deaths. Also the number of vaccinated in Uttar Pradesh is still extremely low.


35 posted on 12/22/2021 5:01:49 AM PST by freespirit2012
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To: blueplum
How could that be if ivermectin was so great as a early treatment?

By the end of 2020: Uttar Pradesh had crushed the Covid outbreak that had mauled the rest of india. They did this by by deploying ivermectin to the population.

In 2021 the Delta wave hit India. By its peak in May 2021: hundreds of thousands of seasonal migrants had fled Mumbai (and other big cities) back to their home towns and villages.

Those who settled back into their villages in Uttar Pradesh had (of course) not received ivermectin. This meant that Uttar Pradesh saw the same spike in cases that every other Indian state.


Remember that Ivermectin is (amongst other things) a protease inhibitor. One of its actions is to suppress viral replication.

But if you wait until the virus has fully replicated, and people are being brought to the hospital with lung damage caused by the virus, then antivirals are of no use.

At that stage you trying to keep patients alive with oxygen, heparin and thiamine while mitigating the tissue damage with steroids & vit-C.


But are we to believe the govt of India is stupid? That they would spend all that money on getting people vaccinated if an off-the-shelf actually worked?

You clearly have an extraordinarily rosy view of government.

Public officials in Uttar Pradesh may be crowing about their vaccination rate. After all: this is what public officials do. They boast about wasting public funds and then ask for more. See also: every country in the world.

The UKSHA (UK Health Security Agency) figures famously showed no useful improvement in Covid deaths from the use of vaccines.

If we compare deaths by cohort to vaccination rate by cohort then there is maybe 10% extra survivability in the very oldest cohort. This is nowhere near as effective as simple prophylaxis with Zinc + an ionophore, Vitamin D, Vitamin C. Or the use of nasal disinfectants.

The vaccines in the UK have certainly had nothing like the efficacy you would expect from something called a 'vaccine'.

The vaccines have been a huge, expensive failure in the UK - and that's before we consider the mind-numbing loss and destruction wrought so-far by the 'clot-shot'. So why would the vaccines work any better in India?

What has actually happened is that most people have had Covid - sometimes without realising it - and now have natural immunity. They would be fine - if their immune systems weren't damaged by vaccine trauma.


Ivermectin resistance is well documented; worms can build resistance but a virus can’t?

Compared with a helminth, a virus is not a complex organism. A virus would have to mutate into a different strain in order to develop resistance to inhibition. Which can certainly happen, and one would expect covid variants that develop a resistance to some antivirals.

But Ivermectin has multiple pathways: it not only inhibits viral replication but also prevents viral attachment (with the infamous spike protein). Also: it is an anti-inflammatory. It is not an early candidate for viral resistance, unlike single-action anti-virals.

36 posted on 12/22/2021 5:06:40 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

tx


37 posted on 12/22/2021 5:10:21 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: freespirit2012
Also the number of vaccinated in Uttar Pradesh is still extremely low.

Yes, agreed. I could only find a claim of 15% vaccination in Uttar Pradesh in October 2021. I didn't rely on it as no doubt there is a later figure out there somewhere.

However it's clear that by the standards of the ultra-jabbed regimes of the UK or Israel - or poor old Gibraltar with its eye-watering 100% coverage - the vaccination rate in Uttar Pradesh is very low.

Which makes claims that a vaccine has defeated covid in UP all the more ridiculous.

38 posted on 12/22/2021 5:19:56 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: blueplum

It is estimated that over 380 trillion viruses infect the human race... imagine running from them all...Heck, they haven’t even found a cure for cooties yet.


39 posted on 12/22/2021 5:30:11 AM PST by Old Yeller (1776 em all. Let God sort it out.)
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To: Pollard

Payers for you and your wife. Hopefully, they have the right infusion for her as only 1 of the 3 even are effective against omicron.


40 posted on 12/22/2021 5:36:40 AM PST by EBH (Never trust the government or a politician . 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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