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America Has Lost the Plot on COVID
Atlantic Monthly ^ | November 1, 2021 | Sarah Zhang

Posted on 11/09/2021 5:12:46 PM PST by Pontiac

We know how this ends: Coronavirus becomes endemic, and we live with it forever. But what we don’t know—and what the U.S. seems to have no coherent plan for—is how we are supposed to get there. We’ve avoided the hard questions whose answers will determine what life looks like in the next weeks, months, and years: When are restrictions lifted? And what long-term measures do we keep, if any, when we reach endemicity?

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Here are some answers I got from scientific experts: hospitalizations and deaths, but stratified by age and vaccination status; a combination of vaccination rate and local transmission; a combination of vaccination rate and hospitalizations; a combination of long-COVID cases, hospitalizations, and deaths; a combination of case growth rate, testing uptake, vaccination rate, and hospitalizations. San Francisco and seven other Bay Area counties recently set three-pronged criteria for lifting indoor mask mandates: (1) Community transmission is moderate, as defined by the CDC, for at least three weeks, (2) hospitalization numbers are low and stable, and (3) 80 percent of the total population is fully vaccinated or eight weeks have passed since COVID-19 vaccines have been available for kids age 5 to 11.

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To prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, the key group we need to vaccinate is really the elderly. The risk of hospitalization for an unvaccinated person over 80 is 25 times that for an unvaccinated person under 18. A Financial Times analysis of data from the U.K. found vaccinating 25,000 children had the same effect on hospitalizations as vaccinating just 800 adults over age 60. Unvaccinated elderly adults are just that much more likely to become severely ill with COVID-19. You can’t compensate for a low vaccination rate among older adults by vaccinating more people in younger groups, says Müge Çevik, a virologist at the University of St. Andrews.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid; tyranny
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To: eldoradude

Oh. Are you now advocating fascist behavior like the left?


41 posted on 11/09/2021 5:59:09 PM PST by MarMema
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To: UNGN

Ok let me work on this more and get back to you...


42 posted on 11/09/2021 6:00:36 PM PST by MarMema
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yes.


43 posted on 11/09/2021 6:01:29 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Singapore uses Pfizer and Moderna. If you had Sinovac you are considered “not fully Vaccinated”

Children aren’t spreading Covid in Singapore. Less than 100 kids per day under 11 test positive out of 3,000 daily cases.

Everyone gets tested in a family, the unvaccinated go to 14 day Quarantine camp.

Over 90% of Singapore adults are Vaccinated, but they have less than 5% natural immunity.

What is YOUR number for % vaccination?


44 posted on 11/09/2021 6:03:23 PM PST by UNGN
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To: UNGN

How can natural immunity be very effective against something that may very well be a human inhanced virtual bio-weapon?

Serious question. No trolling. Thanks.


45 posted on 11/09/2021 6:11:46 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Pontiac

And they mention nothing about natural immunity, either.


46 posted on 11/09/2021 6:13:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: MarMema

I got my first Moderna in Jan 2021.
Second in Feb. Booster/third last week.

That you’re on your third shot in less than a year should tell you something. It’s not providing durable immunity.


47 posted on 11/09/2021 6:14:54 PM PST by Flick Lives (The future is a quiet world)
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To: JamesP81

All the CDC needs to do is approve HCQ and Ivermectin and Pandemic over,,,,,What is the problem? These drugs have been around for years without side effects and foreign countries have had dramatic effects in curing of Covid 19.


48 posted on 11/09/2021 6:17:50 PM PST by chopperk
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To: Pontiac

When do we hang the traitors who funded the development of the Chinese bioweapon?


49 posted on 11/09/2021 6:18:58 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MarMema

Not enough people have been vaccinated.

How do you intend to vaccinate all the wildlife, such as whitetail deer, now carrying the virus? It’s endemic in the environment.


50 posted on 11/09/2021 6:19:27 PM PST by Flick Lives (The future is a quiet world)
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To: MarMema; hinckley buzzard
Some other viruses have animal reservoirs or vectors and were eradicated by vaccines.

Your article is incorrect. All these viruses caused diseases although rare still occur, including polio.

Polio in the world.

These diseases are controlled not eliminated.

51 posted on 11/09/2021 6:21:15 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: MachIV

Covid has been with us 20 months. If natural Immunity “only lasts 3 months” where are the people that have had Covid 6 times?. One would think the Media and the CDC would have a casting call and pay big bucks to put that guy’s picture in their ads.

I think Fauci & Collins should be hanging by a rope after a fair trial at the Hague, but If you have already survived Covid, odds are incredibly high, if you get it again, you’ll survive that, too.


52 posted on 11/09/2021 6:21:37 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Fledermaus

Exactly


53 posted on 11/09/2021 6:23:40 PM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: MarMema

What is more children have yet to be vaccinated anywhere and still contribute substantially to spreading covid.

The current vaxx doesn’t provide sterilizing immunity, so vaxxing more people will not stop transmission.


54 posted on 11/09/2021 6:24:35 PM PST by Flick Lives (The future is a quiet world)
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To: MarMema

The flu??? There is no vaccine for the flu, you keep citing cdc and nih studies that have errors.


55 posted on 11/09/2021 6:32:16 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: MarMema
Dengue fever is not eradicated, and the vaccine is only recommended for those between 9 and 16 years of age.

According to the FDA

Each year, an estimated 400 million dengue virus infections occur globally according to the CDC. Of these, approximately 500,000 cases develop into DHF, which contributes to about 20,000 deaths, primarily among children.

56 posted on 11/09/2021 6:32:44 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Pontiac
In the entire article the focus is on Vaccinations as the key to ending the Pandemic restrictions. Nothing what so ever is mentioned about nutrition or anti-viral treatment.

That's not the issue. The issue is our government is going to us Covid to create new laws and new restrictions to control every aspect of your life.

This is the foot in the door to a totalitarian United States.

57 posted on 11/09/2021 6:33:16 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: MarMema
Not enough people have been vaccinated.

Heh. Okay, so you are either a troll or just very, very stupid. Or both.

58 posted on 11/09/2021 6:34:07 PM PST by DSH
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To: MarMema

Except those are real vaccines that don’t need regular booster shots.


59 posted on 11/09/2021 6:36:18 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: MarMema

“Some other viruses have animal reservoirs or vectors and were eradicated by vaccines.”

Which ones?


60 posted on 11/09/2021 6:36:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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