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Study confirms ancient Spanish cave art was made by Neanderthals
Phys dot org ^ | August 2, 2021 | AFP

Posted on 08/15/2021 2:14:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Neanderthals, long perceived to have been unsophisticated and brutish, really did paint stalagmites in a Spanish cave more than 60,000 years ago, according to a study published on Monday.

The issue had roiled the paleoarchaeology community ever since the publication of a 2018 paper attributing red ocher pigment found on the stalagmitic dome of Cueva de Ardales to our extinct "cousin" species.

The dating suggested the art was at least 64,800 years old, made at a time when modern humans did not inhabit the continent...

A new analysis revealed the composition and placement of the pigments were not consistent with natural processes—instead, the pigments were applied through splattering and blowing.

What's more, their texture did not match natural samples taken from the caves, suggesting the pigments came from an external source.

More detailed dating showed that the pigments were applied at different points in time, separated by more than ten thousand years...

It is difficult to compare the Neanderthal "art" to wall paintings made by prehistoric modern humans, such as those found in the Chauvet-Pont d'Arc cave of France, more 30,000 years old...

The team wrote that the pigments are not "art" in the narrow sense of the word "but rather the result of graphic behaviors intent on perpetuating the symbolic significance of a space."

The cave formations "played a fundamental role in the symbolic systems of some Neanderthal communities," though what those symbols meant remains a mystery for now.

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: caveart; chatelperronian; cuevadeardales; godsgravesglyphs; malaga; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; paleolithic; spain
This combination of pictures obtained on July 29, 2021, shows a general view and close-up of a partly coloured stalagmite tower in the Spanish cave of Ardales, southern Spain.

This combination of pictures obtained on July 29, 2021, shows a general view and close-up of a partly coloured stalagmite tower in the Spanish cave of Ardales, southern Spain.

1 posted on 08/15/2021 2:14:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 08/15/2021 2:15:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Neanderthals, long perceived to have been unsophisticated and brutish"

Strangely enough they were also excellent dancers. Very light on their feet.

3 posted on 08/15/2021 2:21:25 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

;^)


4 posted on 08/15/2021 2:23:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I see it I see it That is just some more of Hunter Biden’s art the Neanderthals stole.


5 posted on 08/15/2021 2:27:19 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: SunkenCiv
... "but rather the result of graphic behaviors intent on perpetuating the symbolic significance of a space."

So, ... just like "modern art" you'd find in L.A., NYC or Paris today then?
Some people did something ... with pigments. :)

6 posted on 08/15/2021 3:03:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who shot Ashli Babbitt?)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neanderthals, long perceived to have been unsophisticated and brutish, ...

You people just can't help it can you?

7 posted on 08/15/2021 3:11:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who shot Ashli Babbitt?)
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To: antidemoncrat

Post of the day winner.


8 posted on 08/15/2021 3:16:01 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: TigersEye
Some people did something

Hell, yes, some people did something

...those people were Russian piglets!

Sooooey!

9 posted on 08/15/2021 3:19:49 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthal woman: What color should we paint this stalactite? Ocher or cave bear bile?
Neanderthal man: Ugh. Huh?
Neanderthal woman: You don’t care what our cave looks like? Or don’t you care?
Neanderthal man: Me go kill cave bear.


10 posted on 08/15/2021 4:13:53 PM PDT by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole; you had so much to offer, did you offer your soul?)
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To: I-ambush

The biggest problem in Neandertal society was, no man caves.


11 posted on 08/15/2021 7:43:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Study: Spain’s Cueva de Ardales Was Used by Ancient Humans for Over 50,000 years
http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/cueva-de-ardales-10864.html


12 posted on 06/04/2022 9:16:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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