Posted on 07/26/2021 4:33:01 PM PDT by ammodotcom
The Battle of Appomattox Courthouse is considered by many historians the end of the Civil War and the start of post-Civil War America. The events of General Robert E. Lee’s surrender to General and future President Ulysses S. Grant at a small town courthouse in Central Virginia put into effect much of what was to follow.
The surrender at Appomattox Courthouse was about reconciliation, healing, and restoring the Union. While the Radical Republicans had their mercifully brief time in the sun rubbing defeated Dixie’s nose in it, they represented the bleeding edge of Northern radicalism that wanted to punish the South, not reintegrate it into the Union as an equal partner.
The sentiment of actual Civil War veterans is far removed from the attitude of the far left in America today. Modern day “woke-Americans” clamor for the removal of Confederate statues in the South, the lion’s share of which were erected while Civil War veterans were still alive. There was little objection to these statues at the time because it was considered an important part of the national reconciliation to allow the defeated South to honor its wartime dead and because there is a longstanding tradition of memorializing defeated foes in honor cultures.
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Not really, no. Your contention was that slavery was an afterthought. That it didn't enter into the equation until long after the rebellion began. In fact it was the reason for the rebellion and withouth it the South wouldn't have launched their war.
Then starting a war was a strange way of going about it.
Preserving the union with grape shot and canister is also bizarre.
Your complaint seems to be that Lincoln didn't immediately surrender when Davis started the war. Why would you expect him to?
No. There should have been an cease fire and a negotiated peace agreement. The South had NO DESIRE OR ABILITY to conquer or take over the remaining USA. That concept was laughable then and is now.
A Lincoln surrender, like I said. I guess he sure surprised you.
The South had NO DESIRE OR ABILITY to conquer or take over the remaining USA. That concept was laughable then and is now.
Nobody said they did. But that's not the only motivation for war. The South chose war and paid the price for their folly.
Surrender? A peace settlement is not surrender you idiot. The North was never going to submit to Southern authority. You don't even know the definition of the fu--ng word.
sur·ren·der /səˈrendər/
verb
cease resistance to an enemy or opponent and submit to their authority.
"over 140 rebels surrendered to the authorities"
So then after Pearl Harbor you think FDR should have called for peace negotiations and a cease fire? Avoid the millions of lives that were lost over the next four years?
Glad to see someone get to one of the real causes: MONEY. As I understand it, duties and tariffs provided most of the income for the central government at that time, and it wasn’t called “King Cotton” for nothing. Also, there’s always a lot of money to be made for the “connected” during wartime, and this has been true forever. Most things change over time, but human nature isn’t one of them.
Your comparison of the US Civil War to WWII is totally wrong and irrelevant. The situations are not similar in any way.
Why?
Another contributing factor was the money and influence behind the completion between the railroad companies to connect to the west coast.
Before Lincoln, “Secretary of War Jefferson Davis (who later became president of the Confederate States of America) initiated the task of surveying western routes to the Pacific Coast.
There were eight options put forth running along various, north-to-south parallels. Due to the ongoing issue of “slavery” Congress could not agree on which.
As a result the entire undertaking remained dormant for years. As tensions between northern and southern states grew it reached a crescendo when Abraham Lincoln was elected president on November 6, 1860.
With the nation’s fracturing, northern leaders settled on the central option although its construction did not begin until 1862 and was not finished until May 10, 1869.”
https://www.american-rails.com/1850s.html
1) The Nebraska-Kansas Compromise was in 1854 when Stephen Douglas of Illinois pushed the legislation through.
Correct.
- Douglas being a democrat and Lincolns top rival.
And in response, the Republican party was formed. In 1854.
So why are you quibbling when you are agreeing with me?
Correct.
The democrats seceded from the Union rather than run a split government with the newly elected Republicans.
The Republicans had the Presidency for the first time, and the House by a slim majority.
The democrats held the Senate and controlled the Judiciary.
The democrats would not tolerate even an ounce of compromise - they chose to initiate a bloody civil war.
Yes, Juneteenth was when the last of the slaves were freed.
Republican bayonets finally reached Galveston on that day after the last major democrat army had surrendered.
Juneteenth is a quintessential Republican holiday.
President Lincoln pushed and got the 13th amendment to the Constitution passed. He even signed it.
So Lincoln freed the slaves in rebellious states by Emancipation and bayonets...
and he freed the slaves not in rebellious states by amending the Constitution.
The democrats and republican of 1860 are very different from those of today.
Wrong moron.
That just proves that the Republicans were willing to bend over backwards to the corrupt, toxic slave owning democrats to preserve the Union.
The Republicans were seeking a peaceful end to slavery.
The Democrats refused and initiated a bloody civil war to maintain their right to keep and spread slavery.
Except for John C. Breckenridge
He was expelled from the Senate for treason.
... https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/expulsion_cases/038Breckinridge_expulsion.htm
Breckinridge Expulsion
The Expulsion Case of John C. Breckinridge of Kentucky (1861)
John C. Breckinridge
Issues
Disloyalty to Union
Chronology
Resolution introduced: Dec. 4, 1861
Senate vote: Dec. 4, 1861
Result: Expelled
roflol... WRONG.
Ludicrously wrong !!!
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