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A 51,000-year-old engraved bone reveals Neanderthals’ capacity for symbolic behaviour
Nature / Nature Ecology & Evolution ^ | July 05, 2021 | Dirk Leder et al

Posted on 07/19/2021 7:52:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

While there is substantial evidence for art and symbolic behaviour in early Homo sapiens across Africa and Eurasia, similar evidence connected to Neanderthals is sparse and often contested in scientific debates. Each new discovery is thus crucial for our understanding of Neanderthals’ cognitive capacity. Here we report on the discovery of an at least 51,000-year-old engraved giant deer phalanx found at the former cave entrance of Einhornhöhle, northern Germany. The find comes from an apparent Middle Palaeolithic context that is linked to Neanderthals. The engraved bone demonstrates that conceptual imagination, as a prerequisite to compose individual lines into a coherent design, was present in Neanderthals. Therefore, Neanderthal’s awareness of symbolic meaning is very likely. Our findings show that Neanderthals were capable of creating symbolic expressions before H. sapiens arrived in Central Europe.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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full author list:
Dirk Leder, Raphael Hermann, Matthias Hüls, Gabriele Russo, Philipp Hoelzmann, Ralf Nielbock, Utz Böhner, Jens Lehmann, Michael Meier, Antje Schwalb, Andrea Tröller-Reimer, Tim Koddenberg & Thomas Terberger

1 posted on 07/19/2021 7:52:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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photos:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/51000-year-old-carved-bone-one-worlds-oldest-works-art-researchers-say-rcna1333


2 posted on 07/19/2021 7:52:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

3 posted on 07/19/2021 7:52:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals:

Way smarter than any ‘Rat.


4 posted on 07/19/2021 7:54:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nonsense. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin is your savior. Have fun with this one.


5 posted on 07/19/2021 7:56:55 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: SunkenCiv

Back in the 1970’s there were photos from the Mid-East of Neanderthal graves with flowers in them. So this is a symbolic tradition that goes back hundreds of thousands of years.


6 posted on 07/19/2021 7:59:25 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Paladin2

Truth


7 posted on 07/19/2021 8:01:04 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: SunkenCiv
"symbiotic expression"

There is a expression and action called "whittling the time away".

8 posted on 07/19/2021 8:04:08 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Or it could be where they just hammered on a bone with a stone axe trying to get the marrow. Bone marrow was prized by early humans. Where they come up with with these ritual or symbolic explanations is beyond me.


9 posted on 07/19/2021 8:07:13 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: SunkenCiv

full author list:

Dirk Leder, Raphael Hermann, Matthias Hüls, Gabriele Russo, Philipp Hoelzmann, Ralf Nielbock, Utz Böhner, Jens Lehmann, Michael Meier, Antje Schwalb, Andrea Tröller-Reimer, Tim Koddenberg & Thomas Terberger

It took THAT many people to engrave a bone?


10 posted on 07/19/2021 8:07:17 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: SunkenCiv

“..at least 51,000-year-old..”

(Dirk Leter, to et al): “Vee mist sound lick vee are quite sheer of the uhproximit time. 50,000 sounds tu much of a guiss, so litz say 51,000.”


11 posted on 07/19/2021 8:10:15 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: SunkenCiv
finger bones???
12 posted on 07/19/2021 8:14:46 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Dusty Road

Because they want to get a paper published.

Personally I think Neanderthals were fully human.

From what I can see on the video I just don’t think this find shows that. I need much more convincing those scratches represent abstract symbolism.


13 posted on 07/19/2021 8:18:17 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Chode

Early dice !


14 posted on 07/19/2021 8:19:14 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Paladin2

“Neanderthals:

Way smarter than any ‘Rat.”

There is a school of thought that Neanderthals may have actually been smarter the Homo Sapiens, but our species may have been healthier, nastier, procreated more, or worked together better.

I’m thinking “nastier”.


15 posted on 07/19/2021 8:24:45 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Reily

there ya go


16 posted on 07/19/2021 8:25:33 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Why would Leftists be always dissin’ Neanderthals?

Projection?


17 posted on 07/19/2021 8:29:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: The Antiyuppie

We are made in GOD’S image and did not “evolve”.


18 posted on 07/19/2021 8:30:14 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s a bone with grooves, eh.

Maybe the grooves are guides for some kind of overlapped wrapping. They are carved at the angles you would expect for that use.


19 posted on 07/19/2021 9:24:05 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: packagingguy; SunkenCiv; All

You may be referring to the Shanigar cave used in the fiction series Clan of the Cave Bear books. It was suggested that the flowers left had herbal medical importance, so they were not merely ornamental in that case. For beauty or for utility has different connotations for human thinking processes and symbolic meaning.


20 posted on 07/19/2021 9:27:35 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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