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The Oracle of Delphi -- Was She Really Stoned?
BAR / Archaeology Odyssey ^ | March 20, 2020 / November/December 2002 | Jelle Zeilinga de Boer and John R. Hale

Posted on 06/03/2020 7:50:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Numerous classical authors report that natural phenomena played an essential part in one of their most sacred religious rituals: the oracle at Delphi. According to the geographer Strabo (c. 64 B.C.–25 A.D.), for example, "the seat of the oracle is a cavern hollowed down in the depths … from which arises pneuma [breath, vapor, gas] that inspires a divine state of possession" (Geography 9.3.5). Over the past five years, a team of researchers -- a geologist, an archaeologist, a chemist and a toxicologist -- has put that claim to the test, making it much more likely that we will actually understand what happened at Delphi...

Unlike itinerant prophets and omen-interpreters, the Pythia derived her power from the place -- she could only prophesy while seated in the adyton within the Temple of Apollo. According to Strabo, the pneuma arose from a small opening (chasma ges) in the adyton: "Over the mouth [of the opening] a high tripod is set. Mounting this, the Pythia inhales the pneuma and then speaks prophecies in verse or in prose. The latter are versified by poets on duty in the temple" (Geography 9.3.5.).

Strabo was not the only ancient source to describe the adyton and the intoxicating gas. The second-century A.D. traveler Pausanias told of a spring in the temple’s adyton that made the Pythia prophetic. Also, in On the Obsolescence of the Oracles, the biographer Plutarch (c. 46–120 A.D.), who served as a priest of Apollo at Delphi, described an exhalation of vapor in the adyton that sent the Pythia into a trance.

Despite these testimonies, no serious scholar over the last 50 years has accepted the idea that the Pythia’s trance was caused by a gaseous emission.

(Excerpt) Read more at biblicalarchaeology.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: adyton; apollo; delphi; godsgravesglyphs; jellezeilingadeboer; johnrhale; oracleofdelphi; oracles; pausanias; plutarch; pythia; strabo
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1 posted on 06/03/2020 7:50:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
She was what we now call a "Huffer".

Previously that person would be called a "Sniffer".

2 posted on 06/03/2020 8:00:29 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure)
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To: SunkenCiv
Despite these testimonies, no serious scholar over the last 50 years has accepted the idea that the Pythia’s trance was caused by a gaseous emission.

I've had a few nights after Taco Tuesday where gaseous emission almost put me in a trance...(sorry couldn't resist)

But seriously, I think the general consensus is that like modern horoscopes or the verses of Nostradamus, the Oracle of Delphi just uttered some vague random phrases that could be interpreted a hundred different ways. A Emperor who wanted to go to war would speak to her, she would utter something like "On the harvest moon, the light of Jupiter will shine on the fields of grain." The Emperor would interpret this as some great victory by Fall. And if he lost the battle...well then the Oracle's supporters would just say he misinterpreted it and the Oracle was speaking of a bountiful harvest.

3 posted on 06/03/2020 8:03:23 PM PDT by apillar
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To: SunkenCiv
Despite these testimonies, no serious scholar over the last 50 years has accepted the idea that the Pythia’s trance was caused by a gaseous emission.

I've had a few nights after Taco Tuesday where gaseous emission almost put me in a trance...(sorry couldn't resist)

But seriously, I think the general consensus is that like modern horoscopes or the verses of Nostradamus, the Oracle of Delphi just uttered some vague random phrases that could be interpreted a hundred different ways. A Emperor who wanted to go to war would speak to her, she would utter something like "On the harvest moon, the light of Jupiter will shine on the fields of grain." The Emperor would interpret this as some great victory by Fall. And if he lost the battle...well then the Oracle's supporters would just say he misinterpreted it and the Oracle was speaking of a bountiful harvest.

4 posted on 06/03/2020 8:03:23 PM PDT by apillar
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To: SunkenCiv

Fascinating. What is especially interesting is that the carved stone that still exists is likely the one pictured on that ancient coin of Apollo.


5 posted on 06/03/2020 8:08:45 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: apillar

I find it kind of hard to believe that some of the most intelligent people of their times - over several hundred years, if not much longer - wouldn’t have figured that out. They were not stupid people.

I think there was more going on.


6 posted on 06/03/2020 8:25:15 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Her beber might have been.


7 posted on 06/03/2020 8:26:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("DonÂ’t mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: apillar

https://www.storynory.com/7-king-croesus-and-the-oracle-of-delphi/

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3698267/posts?page=9#9


8 posted on 06/03/2020 8:27:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Moonmad27

As the Cigarette Smoking Man once said, nothing disappears without a trace. :^)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3105307/posts


9 posted on 06/03/2020 8:30:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Deaf Smith

We’ve got natural ampitheaters, why not a natural bong?


10 posted on 06/03/2020 8:31:25 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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http://odysseus.culture.gr/h/4/eh41.jsp?obj_id=3592

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11 posted on 06/03/2020 8:37:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: apillar
the Oracle of Delphi just uttered some vague random phrases that could be interpreted a hundred different ways.

You mean like Q?

12 posted on 06/03/2020 8:42:53 PM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting read.


13 posted on 06/03/2020 9:36:45 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
Thanks Red6.

14 posted on 06/03/2020 10:41:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

15 posted on 06/03/2020 10:41:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Travel in the Ancient World
by Lionel Casson
A gifted faker name Alexander founded an oracle in a backwater on the south shore of the Black Sea. Here, for stiff prices, a talking serpent he had rigged up answered questions for the local hayseeds... (p 135)

16 posted on 06/03/2020 10:52:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: kevao

More like Biden, you know, the, the, thing.


17 posted on 06/04/2020 12:50:26 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Despite these testimonies, no serious scholar over the last 50 years has accepted the idea that the Pythia’s trance was caused by a gaseous emission.
Most "serious scholars" never leave their armchairs from which they issue papers based on other armchair "serious scholars" peer reviewed papers. Most know only one scientific discipline, and so can easily ignore what other disciplines see clearly. But, since the "serious scholars" only know that one discipline, outside opinions can be quickly dismissed or completely disregarded. And that is how lay people end up with the wrong idea or picture of antiquities.

For those interested, I'd recommend Robert Temple's rather obscure book "Netherworld" or re-issued as Oracles of the Dead: Ancient Techniques for Predicting the Future in which he personally visits, photographs, and explores various ancient oracles and a real netherworld (complete with an underground river supplicants had to cross); seeking answers as to how oracles, divination, reading entrails, and casting stalks were seen by most people of the time and why they were important to individuals in those cultures. From a review: " This is rigorously scientific, painstaking scholarship, as well as an adventure to discover the real history in ancient times."

18 posted on 06/04/2020 3:31:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

Excellent graphic. Thank you for posting


19 posted on 06/04/2020 7:25:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: apillar

Only 2 posts before the first fart joke!


20 posted on 06/04/2020 7:41:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." --Donald Trump)
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