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What are your predictions of what can be expected due to the reaction to COVID-19 (and persistent promotion of COVIDphobia)?
freerepublic.com | Fri, 05/01/20 | daniel1212

Posted on 05/01/2020 8:37:40 AM PDT by daniel1212

Some likely scenarios:

►Increased willingness to trade freedoms for promises of security. At tax payer expense, what is left of them.

►Censorship of speech by private media against those who oppose the above, and the demonizing of such the MSM.

►Persecution and prosecution by the government against protesters of compelled COVID-19 restrictions. ►Prolonged food shortages.

►Increasing reliance upon government. ►Vast increase of a welfare class.

►A form of Universal Basic Income being promised and incrementally provided.

►Universal health care.

►Vast increase of the national debt.

►Substantial increase in taxes upon businesses and tax payers.

►Income disparity reduced as all become poorer and dependent upon the government, except for those in government.

►Increased trading of freedoms for promised security. ►Increased surveillance and tracking of people.

►Permanent restrictions on, and control of, movement and association and speech.

►Required government registration in order to purchase goods and for travel, and to be part of large public meetings.

►Increased restrictions on those marked as non-conformists, esp. those who oppose expresses disapproval of LGBTQ propaganda.

►Churches whose beliefs conflict with state-imposed speech and its restrictions padlocked or converted to state use.

►Increased use of robots, including for teaching children.

►Military conflicts with China.

►China flexing muscles and forcing a bruised and weakened US military to redrawn form contested waters.

►The MSM acting as evangelists for the above.


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To: reformedliberal
Sunlight is flooding in and fresh air dissipates the stench.

Not yet, I'd say. Maybe the sunlight is poking through cracks in their roofs here and there, but they're promptly smearing sh*t on the cracks to stop any revelations. Meanwhile, their stench is getting worse.

61 posted on 05/01/2020 10:53:51 AM PDT by Tellurian (DeMullahkRats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: daniel1212
This scenario will change dramatically once a vaccine is available (and I know that may take time, but hopefully that time can be shortened dramatically).

You see, regardless of the overall effectiveness of any vaccine that fact that one is available to prevent infection or to mitigate the symptoms of the virus, people will move quickly to looking at this Chinese virus less as a life-threatening disease (which is how they continue to look at it now) to something more like a "seasonal flu" that we've controlled, lived with and survived for more than a hundred years.

Therefore, a vaccine is the key to return to normalcy ... I predict pretty much what we had about six weeks ago ... although of course some effects will continue for some time. And I think this return to normalcy will happen much faster than many are predicting as evidenced by large crowds at the beaches, protests, etc., etc. even in the current conditions. Cheers!

62 posted on 05/01/2020 10:53:57 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until It's Safe" means "Never")
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To: daniel1212

One of the very first move they made was increased gun control and travel restrictions


63 posted on 05/01/2020 10:56:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: daniel1212

America has a cost of living problem as well as a lawsuit problem. Our people are every bit as reasonable as anyone else’s but I think we have gotten to the point that we need to plug the leaks in our system.


64 posted on 05/01/2020 10:59:45 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: daniel1212

I predict that more medium and small businesses will produce more components to their specifications in-house.


65 posted on 05/01/2020 11:02:00 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: daniel1212

I don’t think we can outguess the stupidity to come.


66 posted on 05/01/2020 11:03:36 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: reformedliberal
Yes, they are cornered rats, fighting to the death. This is not ideology. This is not disapproval of Donald Trump. They are in a life-or-death battle.

The question is: What are they hiding?

And you are absolutely right: We will fight this war with them at the ballot box, but we cannot afford to lose.

67 posted on 05/01/2020 11:04:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump, praying for guidance, giving his salary to charity, is on the Side of the Angels.)
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To: ecomcon

The entire Covid19 episode seems to be a conspiracy by Gates, Pelosi and Soros plus other unknown and unnamed in the company. This conspiracy seems to be a major effort to destroy the economy, and bring down President Trump in order to set in place a one world gov’t and new world order. This conspiratorial group seem to have the FBI and DOJ included in the destruction of the American Gov’t as we know it. All of these events of General Flynn and the Covid19 grouped together are having a profound effect on the entire world but don’t seem to be able to breakdown the sovereignty of most countries governments especially the United States. We are fortunate to have President Trump leading the resistance.


68 posted on 05/01/2020 11:04:55 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: daniel1212
"Liberals" (or whatever be their newspeak nom du jour) and those who look to them as saviors worship the beast and are proxy servants of the devil. However, take heart, and note tagline.
69 posted on 05/01/2020 11:07:37 AM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump, praying for guidance, giving his salary to charity, is on the Side of the Angels.)
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To: ripnbang

The entire Covid19 episode seems to be a conspiracy by Gates, Pelosi and Soros plus other unknown and unnamed in the company. This conspiracy seems to be a major effort to destroy the economy, and bring down President Trump in order to set in place a one world gov’t and new world order. This conspiratorial group seem to have the FBI and DOJ included in the destruction of the American Gov’t as we know it. All of these events of General Flynn and the Covid19 grouped together are having a profound effect on the entire world but don’t seem to be able to breakdown the sovereignty of most countries governments especially the United States. We are fortunate to have President Trump leading the resistance.


70 posted on 05/01/2020 11:09:03 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: glennaro

There will be no effective or safe vaccine, but there WILL be a vaccine. No thanks.


71 posted on 05/01/2020 11:17:34 AM PDT by BigJimSportCamper
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To: glennaro
This scenario will change dramatically once a vaccine is available

Perhaps. Unless Pres. Trump promotes it.

72 posted on 05/01/2020 11:23:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Our enemies are watching us. This pandemic has shown Americans to be unwilling to take the smallest amount of casualties and, instead, be willing to sacrifice much if it means "saving lives".

Indeed. Including how we took a carrier to port to house sailors in hotels or homes, while only 5 were in the hospital (one died).

Meaning it was judged better to house infected people in rooms together rather then perhaps setting up cots on deck in fresh air and sunshine, while taking a nice cruise in warm air. Those with experience in the Navy can tell me if this is feasible.

73 posted on 05/01/2020 11:28:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Steve_Seattle
One thing I fear is that China, or some other rogue nation, will see the effect this has had on our economy and try it again with some other virus. I say “again” because I’m not convinced that the corona virus was not deliberately released THIS time

I do not think it would be logical for China to intentionally release a viral infection on its own people. But that it came our of biological research is logical, esp, in the light of the extreme defensiveness shown by China to even early allegations. Yet Communism is very egotistical and cannot stand criticism.

74 posted on 05/01/2020 11:32:11 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: BigJimSportCamper

Understood. Whether a person decides to get the vaccine or not (and I do think this is a personal decision, not subject to government edict), the fact that a vaccine exists will go along way in erasing the fear, panic and hysteria that continues to affect far too many Americans.
Cheers!


75 posted on 05/01/2020 11:32:32 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until It's Safe" means "Never")
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To: Savage Beast

What are they hiding?
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Not to sound flippant, but the answer is likely EVERYTHING.

Just like shrinks go into psychiatry to diagnose/cure themselves, those of us obsessed with geopolitics and the elite networks have lived our lives with that gnawing certainty that there is _something more_.

The only things that consistently explain the disconnect is the existence of a network of the compromised, paid and coerced to further the accumulation of wealth and power among the 2nd and 3rd tiers of what we refer to as The Deep State.

These folks are the ones who do much of the actual work for the string-pullers. The people, for example, who get multi-million advances for books no one reads as a way to pay them off for whatever they have accomplished to benefit the Owners. The talentless elevated to stardom just because they are successful at influencing clueless gits. The vapid touted as deep thinkers paid only to implant nonsense in the otherwise empty heads of the consuming masses.

The are hiding their own collusion, their own gutlessness, their own lack of any visible talent or real accomplishment not handed off in payment for furthering the agenda and deepening the hooks of the Owners into the body politic of the planet.

Yes, these minions have committed crimes of all sorts, engaged in perversions and allowed themselves to be manipulated. They sold their souls, not to the Devil, but to those who worship the Devil. Whatever they received in compensation, in their own hearts they know how worthless they are, how unable to exist in a world where true skill and cognition are required. They are not only nonessential, they are pitifully inept in anything they cannot call upon their benefactors to fix for them.

All of us can and do work at times for these types. All they have is ill-gotten gains. The can’t even barter abilities in the real world. Instead, they purchase our abilities with the monies paid by the Owners for services rendered.

Most of those services consist of being elevated to a position where they are able to tout the goals of their masters to credible schnooks in order to perpetuate an illusion of democracy.

Imagine how helpless they must feel as the curtains turn transparent. How hard would anyone fight to maintain an illusion of their own worth? Not to mention the insecurity of facing a day when one’s own ineptitude is glaringly revealed. If the con ends, so do all these sideshow barkers.

And the con is ending. Trump is ultimately responsible, of course, but he has succeeded in awakening the masses and that awakening is (pardon the pun) viral.

It’s no more than that. None of these actors, including the puppeteers, have some deep, dark, TOE raison d’etre. It’s just the grimy terror of being exposed as nasty frauds.

Sometimes I wish it was more. Who wouldn’t want to uncover something HUGE? Just look at the players. How could these self-aggrandizing fools be part of something foundational or impactful?

It’s just a long con. And the first rule of cons is never admit the con.

JMO


76 posted on 05/01/2020 11:42:20 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: daniel1212

My guess is that our OVER-Reaction to THIS pandemic will result in a WEAKENED reaction to the NEXT pandemic which will be much worse, killing a lot more people.

I say this, because “IF” this IS biological warfare, the first round was just to “soften” us up.


77 posted on 05/01/2020 11:46:47 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: daniel1212

Outbreak POll

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The AP-NORC poll of 1,057 adults was conducted April 16-20 using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 4.0 percentage points. Respondents were first selected randomly using address-based sampling methods and later were interviewed online or by phone.

Given who sponsored this poll and that they chose the respondents from those already on their own panel, I give it minimal credence.

I really would rather watch the various demonstrations and ask if these demonstrators represent 12% of the populace or far more?

My actuarial rule of thumb is to look at everyone I know and those I come into contact with minus any ideological commonality and ask if I can only conclude that 12% want the lockdowns to end or think they are excessive?

My personal experience it: NO.


78 posted on 05/01/2020 11:53:41 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: daniel1212
All above except "Prolonged food shortages"

Chicken and pigs where wasted (True.) The gestation of these animals is very short. They will produce a new harvest in a short time.

What is more concerning are the farmers losses to keep his farm. If he doesn't have his farm he can't produce new a new harvest.

79 posted on 05/01/2020 1:11:54 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: reformedliberal

I certainly hope you’re right.


80 posted on 05/01/2020 2:05:34 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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