Posted on 03/08/2020 9:53:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
What you may consider to be a quintessentially American invention is actually mentioned in an ancient Roman cookbook called Apicius.
The text was written by an unknown author sometime between the late 4th and 5th century AD and contains lots of recipes.
One of those recipes describes a dish called 'Isicia Omentata'.
It details how a cook should use minced meat, pepper, pine nuts and a rich fish-based sauce and form them all into a patty shape.
This Roman delicacy looks very similar to modern day burgers once cooked.
The Romans are also credited for being big users of 'fast food joints' and even brought them over to Britain.
These places were known as thermopolia and served quick food like chicken legs and lamb chops to people in large towns.
Food Historian Dr Annie Gray previously explained on an English Heritage blog: "We all know that the Romans left a huge mark on Britain, fundamentally altering the British diet forever."
She added: "Street food became available en masse, and many of our favourite foods were introduced, including Isicia Omentata, what can be seen as the Roman forefather to today's burger."
Gray also said that the Roman burgers would have been "more upmarket" and "complex" than the ones we know today.
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“Would you like a maximus fries with that order?”
I’ll pass on the fish sauce.
If it was good enough for Joan Crawford...
(the Tang dynasty? Imagine, a whole dynasty based on drinking instant mix beverages then gettin’ laid!)
Followed by the Ottoman empire where you could put your feet up.
Auroch burgers?
“It details how a cook should use minced meat, pepper, pine nuts and a rich fish-based sauce and form them all into a patty shape.”
So it’s a combination Whopper and Whaler, hold the bun, Adkins-style.
But, different.
I miss the old Whaler fish sandwiches from the ‘70s. They were big sandwiches, not like the little ones they offer now. I had a second job at BK in 1979, and ate a ton of them. Also made a few triple Whoppers. Too much! Burp!
Fella I know spent two years in Vietnam back when the bullets were flying.
He told us about a fish sauce that every Vietnamese made at home. IIRC he called it Nuoc Mam.
Sounds like a sister to garum?
3500 years ago, the city of Rome didn’t exist. Most likely Latins or even the broader Italic people hadn’t even moved to the italian peninsula yet.
Rome was founded as per tradition 753 BC = 2773 ya. it’s positively modern compared to Eridu
Agree ... some ingredients may be slower than others
Was there anyone named McDonald in Rome 3500
years ago? French fries weren’t invented until
1789. By the French no less. McDonald’s came into
being in 1955. Their fish sandwich was introduced
in 1968. Did the Romans have a fish sandwich? Probably
not, since the sandwich wasn’t invented until 1762.
I hope you all know I’m being ficious here....does
anyone really care that the Romans had a hamburger?
You can call it Garum but in my house we call it, “what’sthisheresauce”
Arby’s has a new, “big fish” sandwich. They, “have the meats”
Italian meatballs are like a glorified hamburger A meatball hero with cheese and sauce is a variation of a cheeseburger with ketchup— sort of...
Spawned me :-)
Affirm, the traditional date for the founding of Rome (Romulus & Remus) was February of 753 BC. Their ancestral Etruscan culture dates back into the 900s BC time frame.
The Roman version of Ray Kroc.
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The McDonald brothers invented the fast serve layout (the design of which they sold to anyone for $900), but only had one store until Croc bought them out for 2.7 mil (23mil today). Croc then went on to franchise and make the business into what it is today
Brian Williams did the math.
A million burgers for everyone, paid for by mini-mike.
This sounds like the Venison burger recipe I made many years ago. I stumbled on it by accident. I ate the whole two pounds of it the first time and it was consistently good after that. A teaspoon of dried red pepper flakes, a splash of Worcestershire sauce, a pinch of Italian seasoning (dried herb type) and Lawry’s seasoned salt.
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