Coronavirus outbreak live thread

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[janetjanet998]

Thought it may be a good idea to have a place to follow all the fast moving events in one place

updates coming in fast

[gundog]

I would think so. I don’t know that it is Lysol, though.

[rodguy911]

You are right on accd. to zH here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wuhan-nurse-fears-90000-infected-emotional-plea-help

A translation from a nurse on the 24th of Jan claims that some 90,000 cases of pneumonia are now active in China. Also, the claim is that the virus has mutated and it is now in the second generation. An additional claim is now that 1 person is likely to infect 14 others this may be due to the 5-9 day period before symptoms are such that most people seek help.even longer in some people.
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Here’s a clip from the ZH link”

“A viral video, reposted on Twitter 48 hours ago, has more than 800k views and reveals an urgent message from a Wuhan nurse, who claims more than 90,000 people in China have been infected with the fast-spreading coronavirus.

An unverified translation of the nurse, posted by @purplelovehime, has been retweeted more than 13.7k times since Saturday, states: “I am Jin Wei. I am currently inside the Wuhan outbreak region, Han Hou area. I would like to describe the condition inside the Hubei province, as well as the outbreak situation in the entire China. Currently, there are already 90,000 cases of pneumonia contraction.”

“What is the rate of contraction? If one person contracted this disease and is not properly quarantined and treated, this I individual will infect 14 people that came in contact with him. That is a significant multiplier. During the spring festival, in our culture, families like to get together, dine together. But this is unlike any other years. I hope that people can stay home, do not gather, and do not visit families. There is a spring festival every year. If everyone can stay safe, you can always get together later,” the unverified translation of the nurse said.

The translation went on to say that medical supplies from bio suits, medical masks, goggles, and gloves “are in great shortages.”

[palmer]

90k pneumonia cases is pretty mild for China from ordinary flu. We don't know the numbers from which the pneumonia cases came. From other ordinary flu? Not a big deal. From a large number of coronavirus cases? That's in between, need more data, might be serious or not. Mostly from a modest number of coronavirus? Then that's serious.

A country with China's population should have at least 180,000 extra fatalities in the winter from flu and respiratory ailments. The number for the US with our much better health care is 60,000 extra fatalities in winter, mainly from flu, back in 2006 when the US population was 300,000,000. 90k extra in a bad flu year.

[grey_whiskers]

That's 90,000 in Wuhan alone, not in all of China.

So to scale, multiply by ~110 == 10 million cases of pneumonia.

And early reports are about 16% of the coronavirus cases are in serious or critical condition; maybe 10% need intubation or respirators.

Take *that* nationwide and it'll collapse ANY health care system.

By the way, did you see the Director of the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health talking about the possibility for crash research into multiple vaccines where money is not an object? In public. Under his own name. In so many words.

https://mobile.twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1221435005303345158

[palmer]

From the previous post: I would like to describe the condition inside the Hubei province, as well as the outbreak situation in the entire China. Currently, there are already 90,000 cases of pneumonia contraction

So I don't know if 90k is the city with 11m or the province with 58m or the country. Probaby the province from that wording. That's 155 per 100,000 whereas ours is about 25 per 100,000 right now.

16% of the coronavirus cases

We really have no idea how many cases there are because the mild ones are unreported.

I would expect a serious response to the epidemic including multiple vaccines, no different from other respiratory viral diseases. On that twitter feed the guy reiterates that we have no idea what the lethality is.

[grey_whiskers]

OK, fair enough. Call it 16% of those cases which were tracked and/or reported to the hospital for treatment. ;-)

Nonetheless, worrisome.

[palmer]

Yes, all the numbers are percent of tracked cases. No idea how many untracked. I would agree from the Chinese response that this is worrisome. But I will wait a few weeks to really worry or put it in the rear view mirror.

[rodguy911]

The spokespeople doing the videos are not professional journalists and they could be talking about the coronavirus or flu I don’t know. But, the last number I saw was around 2,000 cases. No telling if that was low but could have been.Hard to tell what the real number is.

[rodguy911]

If its real you won’t have to wait that long.

[voicereason]

Here's an interesting tidbit I came across on twitter. The numbers, if true, are quite different than what most of the media is reporting.

#Wuhan has more than 25,000 confirmed cases & more than 43,000 infections, according to Hong Kong researchers. They claim that confining Wuhan does not stop the #coronavirus. They expect major epidemics in major Chinese cities by April / May 2020#nCoV2019pic.twitter.com/7nF7SzHESK— ISCResearch (@ISCResearch) January 27, 2020

[voicereason]

Apparently, not everyone is happy to see the government come help:

Heartbreaking scenes from #Wuhan #China 2020: A man infected with the #WuhanCoronovirus tried to escape but security forces returned him into the ambulance van.#CoronavirusOutbreak #nCoV2019 #coronavirus #WuhanCoronoviruspic.twitter.com/XPyLsukcBk— ISCResearch (@ISCResearch) January 25, 2020

[janetjanet998]

one year ago bump

[janetjanet998]

Just the beginning...

This virus is unique. It spreads like the common cold and you can spread it to others before you even know you are sick. And with 14 day incubation, the real numbers are just now emerging.

Lots of people making fun of this, on this thread and others.

We’ll see how many are laughing in two weeks. Or a month.

169 posted on 1/24/2020, 5:40:33 PM by Mariner (War Criminal #18)

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or a year

[MinorityRepublican]

Even now some people still thinks it is a hoax.

[xrmusn]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does this mean we are ALL gonna die?

No one ever told me I might die!!

Seeing as how the number of cases have been going up since the mask mandate does this mean we are still stupid for believing the masks might NOT work as advertised?

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

BTW according to the initial predictions,

I AM ALREADY DEAD.....

Go figure

[LucyT]

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