Posted on 11/02/2019 10:01:04 AM PDT by gnarledmaw
A 9.7-million-year-old discovery has left a team of German scientists scratching their heads. The teeth seem to belong to a species only known to have appeared in Africa several million years later.
A team of German archaeologists discovered a puzzling set of teeth in the former riverbed of the Rhine, the Museum of Natural History in Mainz announced on Wednesday.
The teeth don't appear to belong to any species discovered in Europe or Asia. They most closely resemble those belonging to the early hominin skeletons of Lucy (Australopithecus afarensis) and Ardi (Ardipithecus ramidus), famously discovered in Ethiopia.
But these new teeth, found in the western German town of Eppelsheim near Mainz, are at least 4 million years older than the African skeletons, which has scientists so puzzled they held off publishing for a year.
A specialist team will be carrying out further tests on the teeth.
"They are clearly ape-teeth," head of the team Herbert Lutz was quoted as saying by local online news outlet Merkurist (link in German) . "Their characteristics resemble African finds that are four to five million years younger than the fossils excavated in Eppelsheim. This is a tremendous stroke of luck, but also a great mystery."
In the press conference announcing the find, Mainz Mayor Michael Ebling claimed the find would force scientists to reconsider the history of early mankind.
"I don't want to over-dramatize it, but I would hypothesize that we shall have to start rewriting the history of mankind after today," Ebling was quoted as saying.
Regional archaeologist in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate Axel von Berg told news outlets that he was sure the the finds would receive a lot of attention. "This will amaze experts," he told a daily for the Rhine and Main river regions, Allgemeine Zeitung (link in German) .
The first paper on the find will be uploaded to Researchgate in a week's time. The teeth are still being examined in detail, but from the end of October they will be displayed at the Rhineland-Palatinate state exhibition "vorZEITEN" (link in German), after which they will go on display at the Museum of Natural History in Mainz, according to Die Welt (link in German).
The teeth were found by scientists sifting through gravel and sand in the bed of the Ur-Rhine, the former course of the river Rhine. The area has been a hotbed of fossil remains since 1820, when the first ape fossils were found. Since 2001, 25 new species have been discovered.
The teeth were found next to the remains of an extinct genus of horse, which helped them date the teeth.
Hmmm...it seems that the past 100+ years have shown the exact opposite to be true - that the agnostics have been the ones to shame and outlaw Biblical AND scientific truths of things like creation.
It seems that the agnostic side is the side that deems questioning their very questionable conclusions as an threat and intrinsically and per-se false regardless of their inability to actually win the debate in the forum of ideas. It is the agnostics, not people like me, who want to shut down the debate - and they have done so regarding creation for the past 100+ years.
Truth always wins the debate in the forum of ideas. That is why the Left and agnostics don't like freedom of speech and open, good-faith debate, because against a reasonably intelligent opponent, they will lose every time.
Next.
I think a past civilization destroyed by war then a guy named Taylor traveled thru time and discovered apes running everything then found in a cave human remains with false teeth and a pacemaker and a kids doll that spoke.
I saw some documentary about it made in 1968..... : )
I saw the same documentary. It was called “The Time Machine” based on the book by HG Wells.
:)
In that book the Warlocks ran the show.
The Delusional Lying Left and the agnositcs are good example of the saying, “If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.”
Anyone surprised they weren’t found in England???
ping
Assuming the topography of the earth is unchanged from today’s arrangement may not be so. No?
Possibly.....should be entertained as a theoretical construct since there are so many inconsistencies.
Yep, That makes sense. You go out of your way to stalk these threads in an effort to discredit them, and then blame it on those you have stalked. And there is the reverse spin doctrine propaganda. I see very little of the same intolerance in reverse. In fact, I see more respect and tolerance for believers of faith coming from the scientific community than I do the theological community in reverse.
Worth repeating.
I was just getting ready to make sure you saw this. :)
But I wasn’t talking about the scientific community was I? I am talking about the agnostics (and their buddies, the Delusional Lying Left).
It’s not scientists who have banned the Bible from government schools since the infamous Scopes trial. It’s the agnostic Leftists who have done so.
Nice try, but true to form.
Love it when settled history is turned on its head.
You're unaware of how true science works?
Expect another AGAIN when more significant evidence is discovered.
And the another Again after even MORE is discovered.
“What it upsets has less to do with the dates directly and more to do with questioning the “out of Africa” theory. The questions it opens up to the “human evolution” theories are (a) did the “hominids” in Africa start out earlier in central Europe, or (b) arise simultaneously (or contemporaniously) in multiple areas, not Africa alone. The extreme differences in the oldest examples from Africa and the new discovery are more suggestive of (a) than (b).”
Absolutely. But it is pretty creditable if they were found at the same age level as the extinct horse species. This is what one wants to find with these things, a very good age reference like this.
I’ve often wondered if the reason that they only find stuff old enough to claim “source of humans” in Africa was because Africa was the only place the dig teams looked for stuff old enough to claim “source of humans”.
That is, after all, one of the career killer theories to challenge, no matter the evidence to back up that challenge.
Now you have classified everyone who entertains the proven old earth science as all unbelieving leftist agnostics? No possible way any of these folks could be on the other side of the fence and just accepting some rational logic? Everyone not in your fanatical bubble of faith?
This is a self righteous extremist elitist point of view based on 1600’s style fanaticism... It reminds me of when the “Constitution” party once proclaimed that it absolutely defended the 1st amendment “freedom of religion” just as long as it was “one of the accepted sects of Christianity”.
Who said anything about that?
Come back when you unconfuse your mind.
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