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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
Nicely done, Fatima!
Q, of course, does not look for money. Not that that’s a bad thing ... but no one would even know how to make a donation.
Likewise, anons and FReeQs are not paid. We participate for various reasons which range from a thirst for knowledge to our need for a unifying pro-Trump narrative to pure patriotism.
Yet ... all these grifters show up ... and apparently they have found they can get (derp) funds if they bash Q and the (((WWG1WGA))) movement.
It’s really disgusting.
Thanks for exposing this one.
The big difference being that the independent investigation into the source of the mysterious light that appeared to shoot up into the night sky on a time lapsed weather camera took place weeks BEFORE the brain trust at Q-anon got hold of it.
The scientists and photography experts discussed the anomalous image, chased down leads, called civil and military aviation in the area, and generally worked in concert to resolve the mystery. It took them less than 72 hours to fully understand and document what had happened.
Complete report Comprehensive analysis of the Whidbey Island 'missile'
The drama around this event didn't start until weeks later when some internet joker posted the image and "hinted" it was a missile aimed at AF1. No evidence was ever presented by the "Q team" to support this nonsensical claim, no follow up has been done by them to identify who launched this missile, and outside a couple of weeks of wildly inaccurate rumor and speculation the incident was never mentioned again.
So to correct you analogy, its the original investigation that determined the image was created by a passing helicopter which is analogous to the Shroud of Turin and folks like you who are the 'autofellatory atheists' tasked with trying to debunk it.
Yawns.
This is four long exposure images of several different rotor aircraft
And here is your alleged "helicopter" Let's see if you can figure out what's missing from your alleged rotor aircraft picture. Could it be maybe the rotor? LOL
Just stop you are embarrassing yourself
“You should rephrase. Maybe something like, “It wasn’t reported that anybody saw the missile launch”.”
Did anyone report seeing a helicopter shining a search light? We know for a fact that SOMETHING was there and have pictorial proof of it. For the derps claim it wasn’t a missle because nobody saw it to be true, then it also wasn’t a helicopter search light because nobody saw that either. Can’t have it both ways.
A lack of intellectual curiosity seems requisite for a belief in Q-anon.
Thank you.
More
The MAGA Coalition needs to explain to the PEOPLE THAT TRUSTED IT WITH THEIR MONEY how they ended up handing $60,000 of it to a known con man out of prison less than year who suddenly waves a magic wand and has an event planning company.
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1042573436885905408
You seemed enamored with pseudo-science...good luck with that.
Your A-game isn't even enough to get a rise out of me.
Oh, and next time? Make sure the electric mixer isn't running when you try to lick the beaters.
Says the troll the doesn’t have the intellectual honesty
To admit it isn’t a helicopter
Define projection
Lol yeah show me another picture of a flashlight and pretend it’s like a helicopter
Pseudo science
Bwhahahahahahaha
The above post is from Sept. 2018.
Projection is what the light on the helicopter was doing.
See how it all works out? See?
(Raises eyebrows while waggling head, murmurs, "Current year.")
Mac
The problem is you don’t speak the language of Q-world.
You don’t start off discussions by screaming TROLL!
Follow by a series of ad hominem attacks.
Then a series Internet images that can’t be properly sourced.
Ending with screams of “Don’t argue with me! Get out of my sandbox or I’ll tell mommy aka Jim Robinson!”.
How many will ever make it out?
- Radar data of a helicopter in that location, at that time.
- Confirmation from the crew that flew the route.
- An image that matches the light trails left by the moving boats in the same video, which is consistent with what one would expect from a long exposure shot of a vehicle with multiple lights.
- Basic photography knowledge that moving objects generally disappear on long exposures, confirmed by the boats in the video.
Evidence that supports a missile:
- It looks like a missile
Sorry I missed this comment earlier I would have proven you wrong much sooner...
Because Nothing Happened
785 posted on 4/12/2019, 8:16:16 PM by mac_truck
http://mynorthwest.com/1018856/whidbey-island-photo-missile/?
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/curious-photo-fueling-speculation/
https://sputniknews.com/us/201806121065349803-pentagon-denies-knowledge-mystery-object-west/
This one is my favorite
Q NEWS, get it?
E pur si muove.
Well its nice to see someone finally get up off their hindquarters and do some looking.
Now have you bothered to READ those news reports?
/lolz
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