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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, We are Q. For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
Q is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as breadcrumbs. One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the Deep State of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnons Pernicious Connections to Pizzagate
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminalsincluding child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the Pizzagate and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the Pizzagate conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 Next week [Next week] was declared suicide weekend. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 Q declares March Madness and that the public will soon know. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 April was supposed to be a BIG month, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, military start, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the Pizzagate fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House prove that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
The funniest ones are the ones that claim to have known all along, as the plan comes together.
Those ones crack me up the most.
“You guys will say ANYTHING.”
If by “anything” you mean “true facts that demonstrate Q is a fraud”, then yes.
“And I bet if I showed you the bajilionty other “Q proofs” you do the same kinda watusi dance to explain how they are all, each and every one of them FAKE FAKE FAKE.”
Well, yeah, I mean, Q is a demonstrated fraud, so obviously whatever you believe are “proofs” are going to turn out to be junk and nonsense. That’s elementary.
And you can say that without looking at a single one, much less the bajillionty ones that are out there.
There's a flaw in your intellect, sir.
What's elementary is that you dismiss proof of a truth without ever having looked at those proofs.
That is the thought process of a small child, not a civilized man.
You may be beyond redemption. But we will be here to coddle you when you finally realize the truth.
“That would only prove that you have no desire to look at any evidence that goes against your cult-like Salem witch trial aversion to facts.”
I have no desire to watch videos put out by people advocating something that is already amply demonstrated to be a hoax and a fraud. At best it might be mildly amusing to see how wrong they are, but really, why bother?
“so adamant that something like Q could even be possible”
It’s not that it’s not possible, it’s just that it isn’t true, and has been demonstrated over and over again to be untrue.
I don’t care about the furniture, that isn’t even relevant.
“And you can say that without looking at a single one, much less the bajillionty ones that are out there.
There’s a flaw in your intellect, sir.”
The only flaw is that you are assuming I’ve never looked at these so-called “proofs” before. Of course I have, and I have always found them to be laughable and easily demonstrated to be false. Besides which, the fact that Q is fraudulent has already been proven, so it is impossible to come up with some “proof” that he isn’t. The two notions are contrary and can’t co-exist, and since one is already proven, the other is an impossibility.
Ever notice they never bring up stuff like how we knew Lisa page had been to London before the trump investigation started and we were told that over a year ago while, they found it out is January when Lisa pages testimony was released?
They have to pretend proof doesn’t exist to protect their sad egos
Yes the fact that the furniture on AF1 hasn’t been moved since the Clinton administration cause it’s bolted down to prevent it moving around in flight is irrelevant to why pictures inside AF1 from different years and even decades look similar
Hahahahahahaha
Try again
Who said anything about watching videos. I don't watch videos of Q "interpreters".
I go right to the source. The Q posts.
If you have half a brain, and I do, you can get all you need from the Q posts themselves, without some internet jagoff trying to explain it for you.
It's all pretty cut and dried, actually, once you understand the comms.
But maybe you don't have half a brain? You already think you need to "watch videos" to understand Q, so who knows?
...and has been demonstrated over and over again to be untrue.
No. Not even once. If it had, I wouldn't subscribe to Trump's Q program. I am not an unreasonable man, after all.
Are you?
No they didnt
And Bagster showed you above
The five stages of grief
1. Denial and isolation;
2. Anger;
3. Bargaining;
4. Depression;
5. Acceptance.
You are at #1
RomanisntQ is at #2
LOL!
We need to set up the 5 stages of panic because that’s what we’re really facing here on this thread from the Q attackers (who are on the same page as the enemy media, FWIW).
CGato
Now that's a completely ignorant statement and also a lie. If you had looked at ALL the proofs or even a certain percentage, you would have no choice but to believe. The proof is overwhelming and staggering.
It's mathematically impossible for so many "coincidences" to take place.
No. You haven't looked at them. If you had, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Where did you look at them? Videos? Ha.
C'mon, man. And Q has NEVER been disproven, so you can stop with that particular canard.
Saying a thing over and over doesn't make it true. But I have proofs. You have nothing but your "feelings" and some derp state/CIA inspired plants and shills.
No. They knew it all along. Don't you understand?
They're way smarter than us. We're just a bunch of dumb cultists.
Don’t need your creepy Q website or your fabricating “cliff notes.”
You’re now adding to your filler of inaccuracies about a small PAC that hired both Gorka and Gov. Palin for one time events a guy who is a Never Trumper and big Sessions supporter who also fell for the QAnon stink.
Being paid for a one-time event even a political one like Gorka and Palin is not a crime, nor a grift no matter how many times you say it with zero evidence. This is America. People can hold political events and do.
Do you even know who your pal Brian Cates is? He joined the Qult and attacked MAGA Coalition and so they looked at him. He’s painfully detailed in a video they made recently and I’ll find it if you dare to see who one of your fellow heroes are.
Cates puts together “bukkake” clips of women who are assaulted by multiple men ejaculating on their faces. He lives with his brother and makes a living by delivering newspapers. He has a paper route and weighs about 400 pounds so he uses his brother’s car to deliver the newspapers.
If you had a clue, you’d almost be dangerous. You only outed yourself and the people you clownishly bow to without any clue whatsoever. Take a bow! (Squirt! Squirt!)
“Besides which, the fact that Q is fraudulent has already been proven, so it is impossible to come up with some proof that he isnt.”
Some of these folks are so deluded, they literally ignore all relevant evidence but think you are ignorant and a shill if you don’t fall for their “evidence.”
I’ve had better discussions with communists and Scientology members. They all argue their positions with about the same level of thoughtfulness. No matter how many facts you cite, they’ll ignore it and return right back to their “material.”
They’ve done this through the entire thread. Sad.
LOL. An unnamed source from Fake News says that Gorka was fired.
You make my point, exactly.
"Naivete" is not attractive look on you bagman.
“If you had looked at ALL the proofs or even a certain percentage, you would have no choice but to believe.”
Sorry, but that is just the statement of a hardcore fanatic, and not someone with a shred of critical thinking. It’s a pretty good demonstration of the type of mentality it takes to still believe in the ridiculous fraud that is Q, though.
That says q said Muller and Trump were working together
Now seeing as you'll falsely claim you already did post it you should have no trouble posting it here again for those the just joined us and may not yet realized how full of crap you are..
Meanwhile I have no problem reposting that q called you a liar just yesterday
If we are merely a LARP asking questions on the Chans, why are we being attacked daily by some
of the world's biggest media co's, social media
co's deliberately applying censorship/banning,
shills paid/inserted to disrupt (media
matters), blue checkmark coordinated attacks, etc.?
All for a 'conspiracy' on the Chans?
All for a 'LARP'?
Why is there a constant flow of disinformation
being pushed re: Q?
Disinformation push re: Mueller is a white hat.
FAKE & FALSE narrative.
Think BLOCKADE.
When you can't attack the information directly,
you attack the source, if that fails, you
'create false misleading information' to
discredit knowing 'select' 'unaware' followers
would not take the time to self-corroborate the
claims (same vehicle/tactics used by FAKE NEWS
media).
Logical thinking always wins.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
As the target(s) turn to the other side, the
attacks will intensify.
We have the source.
Q
Ps the "source"
Referenced above is Julian assange
From drop 1708
JA.
Why does the UK gov desperately want JA?
Think source files.
The more you know.
Q
No it hasn't. Only the Q-attack site you a cheerleader and pimping for makes those claims. That's all you have and you have proven nothing. Researchers have found maga coalition to be suspect. Even President Trump and his Q team called them out.
Last night I did some pondering as to why they did and then it hit me, the streisand effect. That makes perfect sense as to why maga coalition and the enemy media is on the same attack-Q page.
The enemy media has been on the attack-Q agenda for some time but they can't risk going on a full assault because of the streisand effect.They would then risk the unintended consequences of red-pilling more Americans to the corruption going on in the District of Caligula and the corrupt political/corporate culture it has spawned.
It's really quite simple and makes perfect sense to why the President and his Q team called out maga coalition; the derps have to use fake maga sites like maga coalition to be their attack dogs because the enemy media can't afford to go out on a full assault because of the streisand effect (would also possibly explain why a couple of researchers suspected it being a money laundering site).
The Q team is also correct, the more they panic, the more they will attack. The Q team is setting up the shills and those who ignorantly follow them.
Have a nice day, LOL
CGato
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