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Latest 'Flat Earth' theory says Australia is FAKE - and if you think you've been there, you're wrong
The Daily Mirror ^ | Jeff Parsons

Posted on 06/30/2018 11:50:32 AM PDT by Simon Green

There's a growing number of people who seem to think the world is, in fact, flat.

But it gets better. They also insist that Australia is actually just one big hoax.

According to a viral Facebook rant, the entire country (and presumably the 24 million people that live there) is completely FAKE.

The idea resurfaced at a recent gathering of so-called Flat Earthers in Birmingham recently where over 200 people came together to confirm to each other that the Earth is nothing more than a giant pancake.

The origin of the "fake Australia" post started on Reddit back in 2017 and was written by a Shelley Floryd. But it appears to be back in the minds of the spherically-challenged at the moment.

"Australia is not real," the rant begins.

"It's a hoax, made for us to believe that Britain moved over their criminals to someplace. In reality, all these criminals were loaded off the ships into the waters, drowning before they could see land ever again.

"It's a coverup [sic] for one of the greatest mass murders in history."

Moreover, the post reckons that all Australians are nothing more than computer generated personas and if you've ever been Down Under yourself: "you're terribly wrong".

Hilariously, the pilots are apparently all in on it - and have just been flying you to parts of South America all these years.

Flat Earth theories have been shot down by just about everyone capable of rational thought, but the theory is still enjoying a current resurgence.

Over 200 conspiracy theorists gathered at a hotel in Birmingham for the UK’s first Flat Earth Convention.

The convention, which took place over three days, saw nine speakers take to the stage to explain their theory as to why the Earth is flat.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Humor; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: astronomy; australia; battlestarmoronica; deepstate; downunder; flatearthliars; flatearthmorons; mentalillness; qanon; science; shelleyfloryd; unitedkingdom
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To: philman_36
Why didn't the Apollo space capsules send off clouds of steam when they landed in the ocean? They had to have been hot, like in the picture of the Shuttle above, right?

Nope, Apollo had an ablation thermal protection system, which caused a phase change of the material, and emitted hot gases, keeping the remaining material relatively cool compared to Shuttle tiles.

Also, the Apollo was on parachutes for the last 40,000 ft, which allowed the remaining material to cool even further.

181 posted on 07/03/2018 9:29:32 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: philman_36

I see Australia in the flat Earth map so the post is bull shit.


182 posted on 07/03/2018 9:32:49 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: kosciusko51
Give 145 a try.
183 posted on 07/03/2018 4:41:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bmwcyle

Nothing more than a drive to the extreme to discredit.


184 posted on 07/03/2018 4:42:34 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Still does not answer the question why the sun doesn’t get any smaller.


185 posted on 07/03/2018 5:30:35 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
Still does not answer the question why the sun doesn’t get any smaller.
The sun is always going to be the same size. Just like your car/truck is still going to be the same size, even after you've walked a mile down the road, though it does look smaller from your POV when you turn back to look at it.

And you have no answer as to why the temperature doesn't match the tilt, right? It is a problem, isn't it.

186 posted on 07/03/2018 6:01:39 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Visually, my car looks smaller, as it approaches the vanishing point. Why doesn’t the sun look visibly smaller as it approaches the vanishing point, unless it remains at a nearly constant distance from the observer?

I have addressed many of your querys. You have yet to answer my question. Once we deal with this issue, we can move on to others.


187 posted on 07/03/2018 6:19:40 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Forced perspective.
188 posted on 07/03/2018 6:23:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

If I put my thumb out directly in front of my face at noon or right before sunset, the sun is the same relative size to my thumb. You can even try this yourself.

If the sun is as close as your model says it should be, the relative size should be drastically different. So, why not? Also, in the model you have shown, the sun would never “set”, but would disappear before it arrived at the horizon.


189 posted on 07/03/2018 6:31:59 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
If I put my thumb out directly in front of my face at noon or right before sunset, the sun is the same relative size to my thumb. You can even try this yourself.

The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older.

190 posted on 07/03/2018 6:33:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Is the there a dark side of the moon?


191 posted on 07/03/2018 6:37:23 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

As a matter of fact, it’s all dark.


192 posted on 07/03/2018 6:37:50 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: kosciusko51
Visually, my car looks smaller, as it approaches the vanishing point.
But it isn't, in and of itself, smaller, right?
See above...forced perspective. And that isn't anywhere near the vanishing point. At the vanishing point you wouldn't be able to see it...unless you had a binoculars or a telephoto lens which would bring it back into view! Why doesn’t the sun look visibly smaller as it approaches the vanishing point, unless it remains at a nearly constant distance from the observer?
You're the answer man, you tell me what your reasoning is. I can't seem to satisfy you with anything.
Show me evidence, like I did with the encroaching darkness of the traveling sun.

You have yet to answer my question.
No answer seems to satisfy you. You don't accept perspective as an answer, you don't accept that an object reappears larger under magnification despite it being at or beyond the vanishing point, you don't accept forced perspective...I don't know what else will satisfy you.
You tell me what the answer is.

Once we deal with this issue, we can move on to others.
Please! Surely you can walk and chew gum at the same time. It seems to me that you don't want to address it.

193 posted on 07/03/2018 6:43:58 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kosciusko51
You watch this and then tell me that the sun isn't "getting smaller" as it "sets".

Sycamore Canyon Beach Sun shrinking

194 posted on 07/03/2018 7:02:31 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

If I use the same method to measure the relative size of an object, I can see if the object is getting closer or farther from me.

For instance, your car picture. If you hold out your thumb directly in front of you, you have your car size relative to that forced perspective. And if you move away from your car, and again put your thumb out in front of you the same way, the relative size of the car would seem smaller.

Now, we can apply this experiment to the sun (or the moon).

If you are correct, the relative size of the sun (or moon) should be different. If I am correct, they should be the same.

Do you concur, or disagree? If you disagree, how should the experiment be performed?


195 posted on 07/03/2018 7:05:15 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: philman_36

How do I know that video isn’t faked?


196 posted on 07/03/2018 7:09:10 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: philman_36
But look at the diameter of the moon this Moon video.
197 posted on 07/03/2018 7:17:53 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
And don't forget, we're looking at an object above us moving away from us. We're not looking at something on the same level. It skews the vanishing point view that we see with objects on the same plane as ourselves (road/car, train/tracks).
198 posted on 07/03/2018 7:24:51 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kosciusko51
How do I know that video isn’t faked?
Is that a dodge?

I can look for some other desert videos (low moisture level you know)...or will you simply question their veracity as well so that nothing I present is acceptable?

199 posted on 07/03/2018 7:40:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

No, it is not a dodge. How do I know if the poster was not using some wide angle lens that distorted the video? Also, the light from the sun appears to be oversaturated in the early portion of the video, making the sun appear larger.

I outlined an experiment to test the theory in #195.


200 posted on 07/03/2018 7:46:52 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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