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Giant Wooden Sculpture Unearthed In 1894 Found To Be Over 11,000 Years Old
Tech Times ^ | 27 April 2018, 7:34 am EDT | By Athena Chan

Posted on 04/27/2018 7:51:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin

In 1894, gold prospectors near the city of Yekaterinburg in Russia unearthed not gold, but wood, and a very special wood at that. Specifically, they unearthed what's now known as the Shigir Idol, a 5-meter (16-foot) carved wooden statue that was marked with recognizable human faces and hands, as well as several intricate markings. The statue was believed to be merely a few thousand years old, and it simply sat on display at a Russian Museum for many years.

In 1990s, researchers conducted a radiocarbon analysis of the statues to finally determine how old it really is, and turned up with a dating of about 9,800 years old. At the time, the results were rather controversial and many scholars rejected the results, stating that hunter-gatherers couldn't possibly have created such a large statue, especially one with intricate carvings and designs.

In 2014, a team of researchers took samples from the sculpture's core and used newer analytical techniques to date the unadulterated samples. Instead of revealing a much earlier date than the previous controversial findings, researchers dated the sculpture to be even older than previously dated at 11,600 years old.

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Researchers of the study have gone back to Shigir in hopes of finding more evidence that could help them understand the creators of the mysterious artifact better. So far, they have found hundreds of bone points and daggers from the same time period, as well as elk antlers with animal faces carved onto them.

(Excerpt) Read more at techtimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archaeology; beaverteeth; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; larch; mesolithic; radiocarbondating; russia; shigiridol; shirgiridol; siberia; totempole; uralmountains; youngerdryas
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To: BenLurkin

Ben, again...you miss the point.

I was saying that if you follow the evidence of any civilization being older than “normal” it opens the door to a lot of speculations.

I never said this was carved by aliens.

Do you not read the posts? Or do you just choose to bust my chops?


41 posted on 04/27/2018 10:04:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: huldah1776
Stone tablets was a good idea, too. As long as you don’t get mad and throw them down.

Nice... on so many levels.

42 posted on 04/27/2018 10:04:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Time to rethink deep state criminals AND the organizations they've infiltrated.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Just because the wood is that old, doesn’t mean the sculpture is that old.

You expect wood carvers to use wood that is thousands of years old? ROFLMBO.

43 posted on 04/27/2018 10:12:33 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Red Badger

I’m extremely underwhelmed with the skill of the wood carving artist .... Picasso of wood carving ?


44 posted on 04/27/2018 10:14:54 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: layman

A prime example of Primitive Russian Gothic.................


45 posted on 04/27/2018 10:31:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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To: layman

Ancient artists had different goals that modern ones do. Almost certainly they did not even consider themselves artists, or have any concept of creating an object “for art’s sake” as we do. They were probably what we would considered magicians or sorcerers. The things they made were intended to be real entities and have a soul, like an idol. They weren’t necessarily meant to be realistic. So, the question is, does that object create an impression, does it have emotional content. I would say that it certainly does create a strong emotional impression, like a primitive mask, albeit in a weird way.


46 posted on 04/27/2018 10:37:50 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: BenLurkin
Yekaterinburg, Russia

About 1100 miles east of Moscow and east of the Urals.
Population well in excess of 1 million.
Can't say I ever heard of it, or, if I did, it didn't register.
What surprised me was how cosmopolitan the city is with modern day sky scrappers, excellent roads & bridges, beautiful parks, etc..
Had no idea ...

47 posted on 04/27/2018 10:46:57 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Vermont Lt
au contraire... I was agreeing with you.
48 posted on 04/27/2018 10:58:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BluH2o
Yekaterinburg, Russia About 1100 miles east of Moscow and east of the Urals.

"Smolensk. 200 miles west of Minsk. 200 north of Kursk. 1500 miles west of Omsk."
49 posted on 04/27/2018 10:59:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: wastoute

and consider that stones all over the world used in Megalithic structures frequently weigh 100 tons with other weighing the gamut to over 1000 tons.


50 posted on 04/27/2018 11:16:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: arthurus

perhaps the art of the hunter-gatherers possibly changed to cope with the new, unfamiliar world.

As if those changes all occurred in the course of one generation or three.


Just like the Sumerians are supposed to have created math, astronomy, written language, laws and so on all at once arising overnight from hunter-gatherers and farming cultures.

Allowing for one or two hundred years for the tree to grow to the size needed that would put the carving around 9,400 BC which makes it considerably younger that the unknown advanced culture that built Gobekli Tepe in 12,500 BC, or the Jomon who were sailing the Black Current in the Pacific south toward South America in 14,000 BC.


51 posted on 04/27/2018 11:26:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BenLurkin

The problem just might lie with your perception of things.


52 posted on 04/27/2018 12:00:27 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Vermont Lt

Ok.

Back to being FR buddies. Ha ha.


53 posted on 04/27/2018 12:25:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: BluH2o
Yekaterinburg, Russia

Can't say I ever heard of it

Famous as the place where the last czar and his family were executed in 1918 (one hundred years ago in July).

54 posted on 04/27/2018 2:02:17 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: BenLurkin

Same place the Bolsheviks murdered the Tsar and family, including the dog, in 1918.


55 posted on 04/27/2018 6:13:30 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: wastoute

“consider the size of the economy that would be required to provide all that labor and cost”

Sure, but we know centralized, despotic governments existed from the earliest human civilizations. There didn’t seem to be any real shortage of labor or resources for a government once the leader convinced the people that they were a living god with absolute authority. We shouldn’t assume them choosing to move around 100 ton stones would necessarily be any more rational than the Soviets or Chinese erecting giant statues of their leaders everywhere.

As for the “ancient aliens” idea, why would any intelligent species want to bother travelling light years across space just to help some primitives move big rocks around? That makes a lot less sense than why the primitives might want to go to extraordinary efforts to move big rocks around themselves!


56 posted on 04/30/2018 9:01:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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