"Smolensk. 200 miles west of Minsk. 200 north of Kursk. 1500 miles west of Omsk."
Posted on 04/27/2018 7:51:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin
In 1894, gold prospectors near the city of Yekaterinburg in Russia unearthed not gold, but wood, and a very special wood at that. Specifically, they unearthed what's now known as the Shigir Idol, a 5-meter (16-foot) carved wooden statue that was marked with recognizable human faces and hands, as well as several intricate markings. The statue was believed to be merely a few thousand years old, and it simply sat on display at a Russian Museum for many years.
In 1990s, researchers conducted a radiocarbon analysis of the statues to finally determine how old it really is, and turned up with a dating of about 9,800 years old. At the time, the results were rather controversial and many scholars rejected the results, stating that hunter-gatherers couldn't possibly have created such a large statue, especially one with intricate carvings and designs.
In 2014, a team of researchers took samples from the sculpture's core and used newer analytical techniques to date the unadulterated samples. Instead of revealing a much earlier date than the previous controversial findings, researchers dated the sculpture to be even older than previously dated at 11,600 years old.
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Researchers of the study have gone back to Shigir in hopes of finding more evidence that could help them understand the creators of the mysterious artifact better. So far, they have found hundreds of bone points and daggers from the same time period, as well as elk antlers with animal faces carved onto them.
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Ben, again...you miss the point.
I was saying that if you follow the evidence of any civilization being older than “normal” it opens the door to a lot of speculations.
I never said this was carved by aliens.
Do you not read the posts? Or do you just choose to bust my chops?
Nice... on so many levels.
You expect wood carvers to use wood that is thousands of years old? ROFLMBO.
I’m extremely underwhelmed with the skill of the wood carving artist .... Picasso of wood carving ?
A prime example of Primitive Russian Gothic.................
Ancient artists had different goals that modern ones do. Almost certainly they did not even consider themselves artists, or have any concept of creating an object “for art’s sake” as we do. They were probably what we would considered magicians or sorcerers. The things they made were intended to be real entities and have a soul, like an idol. They weren’t necessarily meant to be realistic. So, the question is, does that object create an impression, does it have emotional content. I would say that it certainly does create a strong emotional impression, like a primitive mask, albeit in a weird way.
About 1100 miles east of Moscow and east of the Urals.
Population well in excess of 1 million.
Can't say I ever heard of it, or, if I did, it didn't register.
What surprised me was how cosmopolitan the city is with modern day sky scrappers, excellent roads & bridges, beautiful parks, etc..
Had no idea ...
"Smolensk. 200 miles west of Minsk. 200 north of Kursk. 1500 miles west of Omsk."
and consider that stones all over the world used in Megalithic structures frequently weigh 100 tons with other weighing the gamut to over 1000 tons.
perhaps the art of the hunter-gatherers possibly changed to cope with the new, unfamiliar world.
As if those changes all occurred in the course of one generation or three.
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Just like the Sumerians are supposed to have created math, astronomy, written language, laws and so on all at once arising overnight from hunter-gatherers and farming cultures.
Allowing for one or two hundred years for the tree to grow to the size needed that would put the carving around 9,400 BC which makes it considerably younger that the unknown advanced culture that built Gobekli Tepe in 12,500 BC, or the Jomon who were sailing the Black Current in the Pacific south toward South America in 14,000 BC.
The problem just might lie with your perception of things.
Ok.
Back to being FR buddies. Ha ha.
Can't say I ever heard of it
Famous as the place where the last czar and his family were executed in 1918 (one hundred years ago in July).
Same place the Bolsheviks murdered the Tsar and family, including the dog, in 1918.
“consider the size of the economy that would be required to provide all that labor and cost”
Sure, but we know centralized, despotic governments existed from the earliest human civilizations. There didn’t seem to be any real shortage of labor or resources for a government once the leader convinced the people that they were a living god with absolute authority. We shouldn’t assume them choosing to move around 100 ton stones would necessarily be any more rational than the Soviets or Chinese erecting giant statues of their leaders everywhere.
As for the “ancient aliens” idea, why would any intelligent species want to bother travelling light years across space just to help some primitives move big rocks around? That makes a lot less sense than why the primitives might want to go to extraordinary efforts to move big rocks around themselves!
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