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Trump wants to send man back to moon, on to Mars
Associated Press ^ | Dec 11, 2017 4:14 PM EST

Posted on 12/11/2017 9:26:51 PM PST by Olog-hai

President Donald Trump wants to send man back to the moon — and on to Mars.

Trump signed a policy directive Monday instructing the National Aeronautics and Space Administration to “refocus America’s space program on human exploration and discovery.”

The move, Trump said, “marks an important step in returning American astronauts to the moon for the first time since 1972 for long-time exploration.”

“This time we will not only plant our flag and leave our footprint,” he said, “we will establish a foundation for an eventual mission to Mars, and perhaps someday, to many worlds beyond.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: mars; moonshot; muslimoutreach; nasa; obama; obamalegacy; spaceprogram; trump
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To: sparklite2

Asimov promulgated that fiction also.


21 posted on 12/11/2017 10:27:24 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama?


22 posted on 12/11/2017 10:28:31 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sparklite2
Sure there was, that was where the idea for the book came from.

You are aware that Arthur C Clarke was a member of the British Interplanetary Society?

He was a serious scientist as well as a futurist.

NASA was worried about it and breathed a huge sigh of relief when it didn't happen.

23 posted on 12/11/2017 10:34:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: cicero2k

Three hundred days in deep space trying to cross a distance of 34 million miles is frightening enough by itself. And that’s one way. Not to mention those who say $100 billion would be too low in terms of cost.


24 posted on 12/11/2017 10:36:36 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: G Larry

Robots! Enough AI to build a Martian spaceport for more robots to work the asteroids.


25 posted on 12/11/2017 10:37:32 PM PST by Doctor DNA
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To: Ciaphas Cain
practically be a death sentence ...

People have spent months in orbit and have come back OK .

26 posted on 12/11/2017 10:40:25 PM PST by Nateman (The louder the left screams , the better it is for America!)
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To: Olog-hai

About time.


27 posted on 12/11/2017 10:40:48 PM PST by eldoradude (Keep calm...we'll get to the carrion part later.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Well, the risk of leukemia is what’s usually touted for such space missions, FWICS.


28 posted on 12/11/2017 10:45:54 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
I'd nominate Schumer & Pelosi to be the 1st couple to be on either the moon or mars.

Their poor retarded liberal minds are so evil & screwed up that the earth would welcome their absence.

However we gotta be careful as their mere presence may trigger a war with the ET's already living on them as they may take major offense at us dumping our garbage on their place!!

29 posted on 12/11/2017 10:46:07 PM PST by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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To: Olog-hai; pookie18
OBAMA_MOON_TRIP
30 posted on 12/11/2017 10:52:51 PM PST by FrankR (On the knees is not a good place to be...a man on the knees is only half a man.....)
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To: no one in particular

As Heinlein noted, settling the Solar System will be like any of Earth’s Great Migrations, “The cowards never started, and the weaklings died on the way.”


31 posted on 12/11/2017 10:53:05 PM PST by DaBeerfreak (As long as the politicians believe they're not the problem; we have a big problem.)
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To: Doctor DNA

Robots. They dont have to be built as heavy duty on the moon as here on Earth!

The new Atlas robot can do somersaults on Earth ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj34o4hN4I

How high could it jump on Mars?


32 posted on 12/11/2017 10:54:18 PM PST by Doctor DNA
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To: Doctor DNA

Who knew?

NASA already making humanoid robots for Mars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sos9lA9FTjE

Whoa!


33 posted on 12/11/2017 11:05:00 PM PST by Doctor DNA
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To: lgjhn23

Including Neil Raceass Tyson. I remember during the Obama season he and other liberal egghead pukes would constantly rag about how Republican candidates were wholly anti-science and could not be trusted to direct government agencies. When Zero made NASA the Muslim Outreach Center, not a word was said from the same folks. I hate all of those leftist “science” guys. I dumped Neil Tyson’s podcast and The Skeptics Guide To The Universe because of their overtly leftist content that finally drove me nuts.


34 posted on 12/11/2017 11:47:40 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Arriving at Mars while covered in tumors isn’t going to appeal to many people.

...Unless we send volunteers who already have tumors...

35 posted on 12/12/2017 12:41:33 AM PST by Does so (McAuliffe's Charlottesville...and...The Walter Duranty Press"...)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Don't know about tumors, but due to the length of the voyage, they certainly will arrive blind.
Space Is Ruining Astronauts' Eyesight And No One Knows Why
36 posted on 12/12/2017 2:34:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: cicero2k
"We’ve been in Antarctica for a century and there are no few artists, musicians, factories, schools, city halls and hospitals there today."
37 posted on 12/12/2017 2:39:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Olog-hai
Well, then. DJT did not exactly specify how. Perhaps this way would take only a few minutes instead of days ... if you have the patience to watch and are somewhat knowledgeable on advance physics and math. Skip to 47:50 mark to get into the details
Zero Point - Classified Anti Gravity Craft - Mark McCandish

Mark McCandish's self-described background and some explanation:
As for "technical" background, I have a very technical background. I was thoroughly trained in aircraft electronics by the United States Air Force on MA-1 and ASQ-25 Weapons Control Systems for the F-106 fighter-interceptor, and achieved such a high level of proficiency in my skill set (AFSC 32231A) - in under a year - that I was assigned to the weapons boresighting and alignment division of my squadron, the 318th FIS stationed at McChord AFB, Washington. Security Clearance: "Secret". (1973-74)

Being an "illustrator" is a very small part of what I have done professionally since attending Springfield Technical Community College (Mass.) majoring in Human Psychology, then, under the G.I. Bill, Brigham Young University (Provo, UT) as an Industrial Design major, followed by study at the prestigious Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California, first as an Automotive Design major and later as an Illustration major. I left the college in 1979 to accept a job in Hollywood as a matte artist for a special effects company Introvision working on the Universal Studios lot. From there I went to work at General Dynamics Corp. as a Technical Publications Editor, designer and technical illustrator. Security clearance: "Secret".

The work that I did for General Dynamics was highly technical and was all done in convention paint and brush work, unlike the CGI imagery that is pervasive throughout the defense and aerospace industry today. Everything I created was created through an thorough understanding of not only mechanical engineering, but perspective and draftsmanship- not by some computer and hundreds of clicks on a mouse, with the hard drive doing all the work.

I also have extensive experience in photo analysis.

After two years, I left GD and worked throughout the defense and aerospace industries as a design and conceptual art consultant. I worked for every major contractor. The list included multiple divisions of Lockheed, including Skunkworks, Boeing, McDonnell Douglas, Rockwell International, Northrop, General Electric, LTV Aerospace, Allied Signal, Sun Microsystems among others.

Some of the weapons systems I played a role in the design or illustration of were the second generation trans-atmospheric vehicle in a family of aircraft known as "Aurora", (design still classified) the tactical airborne laser and its strategic, Boeing 747-based counterpart, the DIVAD tank, the B1-B bomber under both Rockwell and Boeing direction, the YF-22 an YF-23 Advanced Tactical Fighter programs, X-31, Standard Missile, Pegasus ASAT missile, Phalanx Gun System, Mk-50 Lightweight Torpedo and Extended EVA Space Suit for Allied Signal, and a number of other systems still classified twenty years later.

Brad worked extensively with Skunkworks, answering directly to Kelly Johnson and Ben Rich - but of course you never bothered to do much research on his career either. Think the work was "technical"?

I can assure you that the Fluxliner (ARV) was flying as far back as the mid-1960's and I found one witness who saw it in a hangar at Edwards AFB North Base Facility as far back as 1973 while he worked as a crew chief on the experimental aircraft being flown at the time by test pilot William Scott (later Western States Editor for Aviation Week and Space Technology.) Scott has known that witness for 40 years, who also, by coincidence, now works at Lockheed Skunkworks in Palmdale.

My research and understanding of the function and operation of the ARV has been an evolution over the past 25 years - (that anniversary occurring a few days ago) and the theory of operation has been augmented by my friendship and correspondence with top-flight theoretical physicists like Hal Puthoff, Tom Valone, Paul LaViolette, and retired Army Col. Thomas Bearden. The copyrighted illustration which you have used in your article without my permission was representative of what was thought to be true in 1989. The picture and call-outs today are substantially different.

The craft does not rely on the Biefield-Brown Effect for its propulsion, although the segmented capacitor array does help to shape the polarization field that forms around the craft, thus steering it, as it uniformly accelerates through spacetime. The are no G-forces in the typical sense. The principle is beautifully outlined by the 1994 Physics Essays paper by Miguel Alcubierre regarding the creation of a dynamically engineered local spacetime. "Warp drive" to the science fiction buff. The abrupt changes of direction, high Mach number flight without a super-sonic shock wave and dramatic accelerations from a stationary hover are made possible by employing the energy form embedded in spacetime responsible for the variable effect known as "mass". This energy form is called Quantum Zero-Point Fluctuations of the Vacuum, but abbreviated for the layman as "Zero-Point Energy". To put it simply, the craft de-masses itself and a portion of the surrounding environment

38 posted on 12/12/2017 2:54:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
I remember a Disney cartoon back in the 1950s, when I was in elementary school. In it, we "learned" that man could never go to the moon because people in space ships would bounce uncontrolled inside the space ship. The other "problem" was liquids. Molecules, without gravity, would become dangerous weapons that would make the vehicle unsafe, as spacemen bounced around and were constantly pelted with molecules of liquid.

Just sayin'....

39 posted on 12/12/2017 3:22:07 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: FrankR

Thanks, FrankR!


40 posted on 12/12/2017 3:26:49 AM PST by pookie18
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