Ship wrecked off Florida might have changed history (Jean Ribault's Fleet)

www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | Updated: 04:41 EST, 14 December 2016 | Staff

[Red Badger]

Treasure hunters have apparently found the 500-year-old remains of a naval expedition led by a colonizer who could have changed Florida's history, making it French-speaking at least for a while.

The big question is if the shipwreck is that of "La Trinite," the 32-gun flagship of a fleet led by Jean Ribault, a French navigator who tried to establish a Protestant colony in the southeast US under orders from King Charles IX.

They probably are, say authorities in Florida, the French government and independent archeologists.

And if they in fact are, this is an unparalleled find, said John de Bry, director of the Center for Historical Archeology, a not-for-profit organization.

"If it turns out to be 'La Trinite,' it is the most important, historically and archaeologically, the most important shipwreck ever found in North America," he told AFP.

All indications are that the shipwreck found is the real thing.

The artefacts found at the site off Cape Canaveral include three bronze cannons with markings from the reign of King Henri II, who ruled right before Charles IX; and a stone monument with the French coat of arms that was to be used to claim the new territory.

The remains are "consistent with material associated with the lost French Fleet of 1565," said Meredith Beatrice, director of communications with the Florida Department of State.

In 1565, Ribault set sail from Fort Caroline, today Jacksonville, to attack his arch-enemy, the Spaniard Pedro Menendez de Aviles, who had been sent to Florida by King Philip of Spain to thwart French plans to set up a colony.

[SNIP]

The find was finally made in May of this year by a treasure hunting firm called Global Marine Exploration.

Precisely where has not been disclosed.

[Oberon]

All I can say is, thank you Pierre Robert, my 8x-great-grandfather, for making the trip. :D

[PJ-Comix]

I wear a coin found in the Caribbean on the wreck of the Atocha...

Original or replica?

[PJ-Comix]

Just 7 years later, as many as 100,000 of fellow Huguenots, French Calvinist Protestants, were slaughtered in France—in one of the worst butcheries of civilians in European history, the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre.

Subject of D.W. Griffith film, "Intolerance."

[smokingfrog]

ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00000019/00001/40x

[Red Badger]

Thanks!...............

[ConservativeMind]

I was not aware of that. Thank you for sharing.

Catholicism is a beast.

[Ditter]

Originals, I have several. Years ago the treasure hunter who found the wreck of the Atocha came to Houston and put the things he found on display in a local jewelry store. We bought a handful of the silver coins from him. I have always worn a cross on a necklace. These coins have a cross on one side so I wear it instead.

[bert]

The book shown is one of the most important documents in American history. It is the first person account of an authentic colonizer making multiple voyages from France to America when there was no America. The book describes in excruciating detail the war between the French and the Spanish to get a foot hold on the continent. The events occur circa 1564 before the establishment of St Augustine and any Spanish settlement east of Santa Fe.

In fairly recent time, The National Park Service developed a National Monument called Fort Caroline on the River of May at Jacksonville Beach Florida. The actual site of the failed colony was somewhere near by but the precise location is unknown. The acreage for the park was donated for establishment of the French monument.

Then there is my favorite book "The Flamingo Feather" a fictional account by Kirk Monro written I believe in 1854

[bert]

Damn..... just Damn

I had no idea he was commemorated so highly. I thought he was just lost to time

[bkopto]

From another article:

The find was finally made in May of this year by a treasure hunting firm called Global Marine Exploration. The one who is not happy is Robert Pritchett, the owner of GME, who says he has invested three million dollars in this gig and now runs the risk of getting nothing for his trouble.

Under laws governing shipwrecks, the United States recognizes other countries' sovereignty over warships of theirs that sink in US waters.

So Florida must -- and it plans to -- hand over the remains in this case to France.

But Pritchett does not want to end up with nothing and is promising to fight it.

"It is not a French military vessel. Tell France to prove it. They cannot. I can tell you France has no proof of anything," said Pritchett.

"We are professionals here at GME, not novice divers like LAMP and state archaeologists," he added.

The find has been kept under wraps since at least August, but came to light recently because of a legal dispute between France and GME over rights to the shipwreck.

In October GME filed a suit claiming ownership of all the remains found at the shipwreck site. But early this month France and the state of Florida filed a counter-suit.

So the F'n, incompetant governments don't want to compensate the company that found the ship? GME ought to announce the location of the shipwreck. Screw these governments.

[Red Badger]

The Ribault River is a tributary of the St. Johns via Trout River in Jacksonville........................

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 12/14/2016. Thanks Red Badger. Currently I'm combing through the ggg keyword to find topics I'd missed, or posted while I was still in exile. This is it for today.

[Red Badger]

I went to jean Ribault High School in Jacksonville...................Our mascot was the TROJANS.................

[SunkenCiv]

Did a Conspiracy Rob These Treasure Hunters of Millions of Dollars’ Worth of Florida Shipwreck Artifacts?
By Tom Metcalfe, Live Science Contributor | November 6, 2018 12:56pm ET
https://www.livescience.com/64022-florida-shipwreck-legal-battle.html

[Red Badger]

I went to Jean Ribault High School in Jacksonville.....................

[SunkenCiv]

When the Huguenots sailed over to found a colony, they could have called themselves the Huguenauts.