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Donald Trump Secretly Told The New York Times What He Really Thinks About Immigration
Buzzfeed ^ | 2/29/2016 | Ben Smith

Posted on 02/29/2016 12:47:40 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.

After a dispute over Trump’s suggestion of tariffs on Chinese goods, the Times released a portion of the recording. But that was from the on-the-record part of the session.

n Saturday, columnist Gail Collins, one of the attendees at the meeting (which also included editor-in-chief Dean Baquet), floated a bit of speculation in her column:

The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal. So you obviously can’t explain how you’re going to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, because it’s going to be the first bid in some future monster negotiation session.

Sources familiar with the recording and transcript — which have reached near-mythical status at the Times — tell me that the second sentence is a bit more than speculation. It reflects, instead, something Trump said about the flexibility of his hard-line anti-immigration stance.

So what exactly did Trump say about immigration, about deportations, about the wall? Did he abandon a core promise of his campaign in a private conversation with liberal power brokers in New York?

(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...


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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; All

“And at the same time, the other GOP candidates should do the same if they participated in the same process. “

Exactly! WHAT did Cruz, Rubio say ‘off the record’...and why did Cruz know about this before anyone else...he’s been talking about it all day.

Whoever you support for president, it should BOTHER you how Trump is singled out for stupid questions and rumors by this party, media and YOUR candidates.

(P.S! I love your handle, Bruce Campbells Chin! He lives near me)


101 posted on 02/29/2016 1:17:57 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: pgkdan

So sad to watch CRuz go ALL IN with the Romney/MS Gang of 14 cabal.


102 posted on 02/29/2016 1:18:13 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Fhios
I'm not being punked cuz I don't expect much of Trump anyway.
103 posted on 02/29/2016 1:18:52 PM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

“Put up or shut up, New York Slimes. If it exists, let’s hear it.”

Everyone admits to the existence of the tape.

The NYSlimes are claiming it is off the record and will only release it if Trump says it is OK.


104 posted on 02/29/2016 1:19:05 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Cruz already gave a speech about it—came up on my facebook newsfeed.

But the bottomline was Donald can easily make this go away...just ask the Times to release the story. Supposedly it was off the record so they won’t release it unless Trump okays it. Trump should okay it and show he has nothing to hide. If he doesn’t ok it then he’s lying.


105 posted on 02/29/2016 1:19:37 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: HarleyLady27

Sleazy Cruz is calling on Trump to release the tape. LoL.


106 posted on 02/29/2016 1:19:50 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: mcjordansc

Not only do they not care, but, a few posts down someone’s doing contortions that could result in permanent injury. Something about how this just shows how the Donald can pivot and shift to the situation.

Ridiculous. They want to give Cruz/Rubio a colonoscopy and the media’s just waiting to give the Trumpkins an enema come the general.


107 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:08 PM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: Political Junkie Too

>> Trump will have changed the narrative again <<

Or maybe he’ll just say he had a defective earpiece during the NY Times interview.

Or maybe the roar of traffic outside the Times Building was so loud that he couldn’t understand the question clearly.

Or maybe . . . .


108 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:10 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: lodi90

How so? All Trump has to do is say release it now! And then he exposes Cruz as a liar or Trump is the liar. This is easy.

This would definitely be the final nail in Cruz’s coffin if it turns out Trump never said this.


109 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:38 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: pgkdan; Jane Long

I heard Cruz earlier today. How did he get the news before anyone else???

These rumors are just BS. We can’t do anything about, or get anyone to cover REAL Corruption by Cruz and the RNC/NRSC! And it will only get worse until someone like Trump stops it.

Ted Cruz is profiting from stolen Trump campaign contributions by NRSC. MORE Dirty Tricks!

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3403254/posts?page=48#48


110 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:44 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Let's Roll
I'm not being punked cuz I don't expect much of Trump anyway

Yea? what do you expect he'll do in tomorrows primaries?

111 posted on 02/29/2016 1:21:57 PM PST by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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To: corlorde

Trump is very clear: “We need 1,000 miles of wall”. I agree we’re rolling the dice on Trump. But as Sen. Sessions have said: career politicians have said for 30 years they would fix it. They haven’t. No reason to believe the latest crop will either.


112 posted on 02/29/2016 1:22:35 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: AuntB
P.S! I love your handle, Bruce Campbells Chin! He lives near me

Missed a chance to see him at a local book signing. His new series "Ash v. Evil Dead" on Starz is fantastic, and hilarious.

Nobody can do middle-aged corn/sleaze like Bruce!

113 posted on 02/29/2016 1:23:20 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yes, I understand. I’d be fine if they release it, it they release everything Cruz/Rubio said off the record. But they won’t even release their full tax returns after promising LAST WEEK to do so. They released a summary, LATE, which shows ZIP.


114 posted on 02/29/2016 1:23:43 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Let's Roll

This is why it’s tough to talk on Forums. People assume too much.

There are two types of Trump supporters (mostly).

Ones that believe everything he’s saying and think he’s a true conservative. And others that just want to break the GOPe by taking away their party.

Those in the first group I think will have a rude awakening and they’ll be crying later. Those in the 2nd group don’t care as long as the GOPe loses—which I understand.


115 posted on 02/29/2016 1:23:44 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Rusty0604

Two days ago Cruz released nine years of tax returns. You probably know that, but that doesn’t stop you.


No, Cruz released tax summaries. And filed for an extension for last year to hide it. Principled conservatism? Hardly.


116 posted on 02/29/2016 1:24:32 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: RginTN
They really don't get that, you see.

Trump has pretty much told us how he's going to turn his back on everything Conservative, much of it sneaking out already - primarily due to his becoming more confident in his prospects. He's revealed dictatorial positions on the 1st Amendment and the legal process, promised he'll work with Democrats to get stuff done, said Bush is responsible for 9/11, and has again and again praised Planned Parenthood. They're a “great organization that does a lot of wonderful things,” but he's going to go after them (rolling eyes).

He mocks our Faith by telling us what a great Christian he is, ridicules our intelligence by claiming that he reads the Bible more than anyone.

But they don't care. He could come out tomorrow and claim he's Jesus Christ, and they wouldn't care.

All they care about is “F*ck You.”

117 posted on 02/29/2016 1:24:43 PM PST by TitansAFC (Ted Cruz or Bust!)
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To: pgkdan
Cruz, Rubio and all the Cable News Channels are on the war path today against Trump.

Don't think I've ever seen a smear campaign on this scale before....and it is a smear campaign (as you pointed out) given the timing.

Don't ever underestimate the power of the establishment and look for more attacks, likely far worse then this.

118 posted on 02/29/2016 1:25:37 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: for-q-clinton
Can you find a link? I am weak on GoogleFu.

All I've found is this from Mediate/Fox, which is apparently the same tape in a different spot:

http://radio.foxnews.com/2016/01/15/ny-times-produces-tape-of-trump-endorsing-tariff-he-swears-he-never-endorsed/

NY Times Produces Audio of Trump Endorsing Tariff He Swears He Never Endorsed

One of the more bizarre moments during Thursday’s Fox Business Republican debate was when moderator Neil Cavuto asked Donald Trump about a quote he had given The New York Times, only for Trump to deny he had ever said it.

“Last week, The New York Times editorial board quoted you as saying that you would impose ‘up to 45 percent tariff on Chinese goods…'” Cavuto began.

“That’s wrong,” Trump cut in. “They were wrong. It’s The New York Times, they are always wrong.”

“What I said to The New York Times, is that we have great power, economic power over China and if we wanted to use that and the amount — where the 45 percent comes in, that would be the amount they saw their devaluations that we should get. That we should get,” Trump told a very confused Cavuto.

But in response The New York Times released the audio of their editorial meeting with the candidate, in which Trump certainly does endorse a 45 percent tariff on Chinese goods.

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audio at link
119 posted on 02/29/2016 1:25:38 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: for-q-clinton

WHY is any of this even being spoken about if it is OFF THE RECORD!????


120 posted on 02/29/2016 1:25:56 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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