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Are People Really “Born Gay”?
Citizen Link ^ | 6/14/2010

Posted on 10/19/2015 11:29:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Can someone really be “born” gay? Is there a “gay gene”? Does biology equal destiny?

Clearly, the controversy over this issue is huge in our culture. While pro-gay activists and their allies want us to believe people are “born gay” and that sexual orientation is an unchangeable characteristic like race or eye color, a closer examination of the scientific evidence reveals that the “nature vs. nurture” debate over homosexuality is far from settled.

At best, the evidence for a genetic and/or biological basis to homosexual orientation is inconclusive. In fact, since the early 1990s, numerous studies attempting to establish a genetic cause for homosexuality have not proven to be valid or repeatable – two important requirements for study results to become accepted as fact in the scientific community.

Because of this, the current thinking in the scientific community is that homosexuality is likely caused by a complex interaction of psychosocial, environmental and possible biological factors. And the two leading national psychiatric and psychological professional groups agree that, so far, there are no conclusive studies supporting any specific biological or genetic cause for homosexuality. (1)

In sum, there is no scientific or DNA test to tell us if a person is homosexual, bisexual or even heterosexual for that matter. And since nobody is “born gay,” it’s clear that sexual orientation is, at its core, a matter of how one defines oneself – not a matter of biology or genes.

But what about the studies I’ve heard about in the media that say people are born gay?

While the media’s headlines and reporting of these studies have given the impression that science is closing in on a “gay gene,” it’s important to note that each study suffers from significant problems and limitations. And what the researchers themselves have said about their own work is important. Specifically, you should know that their comments have never been fully reported in the press.

Some examples:

• From the 1991 Hypothalamus (Brain) Study, Simon LeVay, who self-identifies as gay, said: “It’s important to stress what I didn’t find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.” (2)

• And from the 1991 Twins Study, Richard Pillard – also a gay man – admits: “Although male and female homosexuality appear to be at least somewhat heritable, environment must also be of considerable importance in their origins.” (3)

• And from the 1993 X Chromosome Study, Dean Hamer – also a gay man – said: “…environmental factors play a role. There is not a single master gene that makes people gay…I don’t think we will ever be able to predict who will be gay.” (4)

• And from the 2005 Fruit Fly Study, Barry Dickson, the lead researcher, admitted that the understanding of how innate behaviors are genetically determined is “rudimentary at best.” He also admitted that the male-male courtship behaviors they observed probably involved “environmental and social stimuli” and that the female-female courtship behavior was abnormal – missing some key steps. (5)

• And what about the 2005 male and 2006 female pheromone studies from Sweden that gay activists claimed were more evidence of a biological basis to homosexuality? (Pheromones are chemicals that can be smelled and are known to influence animal behavior. However, their role in humans is unknown.) Here, it is significant that Ivanka Savic, the lead researcher, said that the 2005 study had nothing to do with proving homosexuality to be biological. And regarding the 2006 study, she said “it is very important to make clear that the study has no implications for possible dynamics in sexual orientation.” (6)

• More recently, Dr. Francis Collins, head of the Human Genome Project, summed up the research on homosexuality saying that “sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations” (italics added). (7) As a comparison, Collins indicates that the potential genetic component for homosexuality is much less than the genetic contribution that has been found for common personality traits such as general cognitive ability, extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, neuroticism, openness, aggression and traditionalism. (8)

Clearly, the case for a “gay gene” has not been made.

So, do all gay people believe that sexual orientation is “fixed” and unchangeable?

Not by a long shot. While it’s true that many homosexuals and their allies believe that people are “born gay” and cannot change, there exists a surprising – and not insignificant – minority of gays and lesbians who recognize that sexual orientation is, in fact, flexible. For example, Kate Kendell, director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, argued in the gay magazine Frontiers that sexual orientation is not fixed. And lesbian columnist and psychotherapist Jackie Black has said that sexuality is not static. Further, lesbian author Camille Paglia argues that homosexuality is not normal and that it is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.

Most recently, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force spokesperson Roberta Sklar admitted in an ABC news story that today’s young lesbians and bisexuals have a “more flexible view” about sexuality and see it as “a fluid thing.” (9)

Thus, while no one knows for sure what causes a homosexual identity to develop, recent research confirms that substantial change is, indeed, possible. Pro-gay ally Dr. Robert Spitzer of Columbia University published results from a study of 200 gay men and lesbians who had sought “re-orientation” therapy. Spitzer found that most were able to achieve fulfilling heterosexual relationships. While his research shows that such change often involves a long and difficult journey, it is nevertheless possible for highly motivated individuals. (10)

Even more recently in 2007, a landmark study was published by Drs. Stanton Jones and Mark Yarhouse which concluded that it is possible for homosexuals to change their physical attractions and that such efforts to bring about change do not appear to be psychologically harmful. Entitled Ex-Gays? A Longitudinal Study of Religiously Mediated Change in Sexual Orientation, this groundbreaking research has been hailed by experts from both sides of the debate as being the most methodologically rigorous to date. (11)

And as more evidence of the fact that people can and do change their sexual orientation, Exodus International, a group of more than 150 Protestant Christian ministries in the United States and around the world, represents literally tens of thousands of people who have made the choice to walk out of their homosexual and bisexual identities. Similar organizations exist for Roman Catholics (Courage), Mormons (Evergreen), Jews (JONAH) and Muslims (StraightWay). (12)

Even in the secular cultural arena we see evidence of well-known people who have clearly changed their sexual orientation. Examples of formerly gay-identified celebrities who reportedly have become involved in relationships with people of the opposite gender include actors Anne Heche and Julie Cypher. Apparently, the reality that people can change their sexual identity isn’t just a right-wing Christian thing.

Clearly, pro-homosexual advocates and their allies aren’t dealing with all the evidence in their insistence that people are “born gay” and cannot change.

Caleb Price is a research analyst for CitizenLink, an affiliate of Focus on the Family.

Endnotes:

(1) “Fact Sheet on Gay Lesbian Bisexual Issues,” the American Psychiatric Association, May 2000; and “American Psychological Association Online: Answers to Your Questions/Topic – Sexuality/What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?,” www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html.

(2) David Nimmons. “Sex and the Brain,” Discover Magazine. March 1, 1994. http://discovermagazine.com/1994/mar/sexandthebrain346

(3) http://www.narth.com/docs/senatecommittee.html

(4) N. Mitchell, “Genetics, sexuality linked, study says,” Standard Examiner, April 30, 1995.

(5) Ebru Demir and Barry Dickson, “fruitless Splicing Specifies Male Courtship Behavior in Drosophilia,” Cell, Vol. 121, 785-794, June 3, 2005.

(6) Nicholas Bakalar, “Link is Cited Between Smell and Sexuality,” New York Times, May 16, 2006, and http://www.drthrockmorton.com/article.asp?id=146, with quote by researcher Ivanka Savic from Chicago Tribune, May 9, 2005.

(7) http://www.narth.com/docs/nothardwired.html; see also Francis S. Collins, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief, 2006 (Free Press), p. 260.

(8) Ibid., p. 258, 260.

(9) www.abcnews.go.com/US/LifeStages/story?id=3484082&page=1 and www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2007/08/19/radical_gay_activist_we_lose?page=full&comments=true.

(10) R. L. Spitzer, “Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation?” Archives of Sexual Behavior, 32(5), 403–417, 2003, and R. L. Spitzer, “Psychiatry and homosexuality,” Wall Street Journal, May 23, 2001.

(11) Stanton L. Jones and Mark A. Yarhouse, Ex-Gays? A Longitudinal Study of Religiously Mediated Change in Sexual Orientation, InterVarsity Press, Downers Grove, 2007. www.ivpress.com/media/exgays-pr-09042007.php; www.bpnews.net:80/BPnews.asp?ID=26429


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To: SeekAndFind

Studies of identical twins show that if one twin is gay, the other has a 7% chance of being gay.


41 posted on 10/19/2015 1:38:15 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: mc5cents

I think the term is now Assignment Disorder. Your brain tells your body it is something its not. Your brain tells you your body is fat so therefore you develop bulemia.


42 posted on 10/19/2015 1:38:58 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

43 posted on 10/19/2015 1:42:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

People are not born that way, they can be taught to be gay and ditch the traditional teachings, but once they are gay,mtheynare born that way, and no teaching can change their view.

There, this is liberal “science” for you.


44 posted on 10/19/2015 2:03:00 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

However, they may be born with a I WANT ATTENTION!!! gene.


45 posted on 10/19/2015 2:27:42 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind

the little fag suing my company for hostile work environment says he was born gay. i think he’s a f’n liar.


46 posted on 10/19/2015 2:38:30 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a pointless question whether or not they are born that way.

Simple logic: Why do we have intercourse? To reproduce. If you are attracted to the same sex, something is wrong, and you know it. If you do it anyway, you’re knowingly doing something wrong, then if you try to make society accept it, you’re doing MORE wrong, knowingly. If you have no desire to reproduce, why have a sex drive? Sex is FOR reproduction. That’s why we all experience the desire. If you’re desiring the same sex, you’re abnormal.


47 posted on 10/19/2015 3:15:49 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Big Giant Head

Yea, but what about the elderly, they will cry.....


48 posted on 10/19/2015 5:31:26 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Gamecock

Babies are innocent, not sinners. God would not send a baby who dies to hell. He is not unjust.


49 posted on 10/19/2015 7:19:06 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: liberalism is suicide

Scripture verse please.


50 posted on 10/20/2015 2:53:19 AM PDT by Gamecock (Preach the gospel daily, use words if necessary is like saying Feed the hungry use food if necessary)
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To: Big Giant Head

Well then why do 80 something still have sex when they are too old to reproduce? Or how about the fact that people who got rendered sterile but still engage in opposite gender sexual relations (cancer treatment)? It has more to do with the nature of the lifestyle than whether or not the behavior actually reproduces (incompatible equipment, early heartbreaker acts with someone older, number of sex partners, accompanied substance abuse, etc.)


51 posted on 10/20/2015 3:03:43 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: SeekAndFind

People who write about “gays” are just too damn lazy to type “homosexual. Here’s an easy one syllable word - fag.


52 posted on 10/20/2015 7:41:30 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: SeekAndFind
people born gay?

No. They usually back their way into it.

53 posted on 10/20/2015 7:45:32 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: fwdude

Then work to fix it. I started using the alliteration “geh,” like the now-common exclamatory “meh!” to express disinterest, to differentiate men who like to have sex with men from the term that means cheerfully happy.

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In civil conversation, I never use the word “gay” for homosexuals, I use the perfectly good word “homosexual” Here on F.R. I commonly type “queer”, “fag” etc. but never, not ever “gay”.

The sad lot of homosexuals are just about anything but gay. They die at a much younger age than normal people, Yes, I intentionally used the word normal because homosexuals are far from normal.


54 posted on 10/20/2015 7:52:31 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Big Giant Head
Why do we have intercourse? To reproduce.

That is most certainly not 100% true. There are a lot of people out there who don't want to have children and still want to have intimate relations with a loved one. I know some, and I'm pretty sure you do as well.

55 posted on 10/20/2015 9:08:54 AM PDT by jpl ("You cannot defeat an enemy you do not admit exists." - Lt. General Michael Flynn)
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To: Gamecock

OK. For example, in Rom.10:9 we find this: “if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” How can an inarticulate baby confess anything? If he dies before he’s able to speak will he be lost? Jesus said in John 6:45, that “everyone who has heard and learned of the Father comes to Me.” A baby is too young to understand and thus learn the gospel. There is Ezek.18;20 which says “The soul which sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father,nor the father bear the guilt of the son.”


56 posted on 10/20/2015 11:20:04 AM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: jpl

Seriously? You don’t get my point? Really?


57 posted on 10/20/2015 5:14:10 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Morpheus2009

It’s a human reproductive process. Duh. You really don’t understand the natural function? People get old and still do it. My spouse and I are unable to conceive anymore, but we still have our animal instincts.

You seriously don’t understand my point?


58 posted on 10/20/2015 5:16:07 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: SeekAndFind

This whole thing is biased and looks only at old science. Epigenetics is the only study to get anywhere with the origin of sexual orientation and identity dysfunction.

No, one’s original embryonic DNA does not create their sexual orientation, like blue eyes. In the uterus the chemical material there, the hormones, the plastics (found in nearly all young women’s uteri), etc, play a part in the developing brain and genetalia. Pollution (the wrong chemicals being where they should not be) is causing our species harm by messing up our reproductive systems (including the brain).

Yes, you are born with an orientation and an identity. It happened during the crucial early week of brain and sex development.


59 posted on 10/20/2015 5:22:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind
Most recently, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force spokesperson Roberta Sklar admitted in an ABC news story that today’s young lesbians and bisexuals have a “more flexible view” about sexuality and see it as “a fluid thing.” (9)

In other words, they treat sexual relations as just another activity, and they'll do anybody, if they feel like it.

60 posted on 10/20/2015 11:28:40 PM PDT by SuziQ
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