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DNA from Neandertal relative may shake up human family tree
Science Mag ^ | September 11, 2015 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 09/13/2015 1:17:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

In a remarkable technical feat, researchers have sequenced DNA from fossils in Spain that are about 300,000 to 400,000 years old and have found an ancestor -- or close relative -- of Neandertals. The nuclear DNA, which is the oldest ever sequenced from a member of the human family, may push back the date for the origins of the distinct ancestors of Neandertals and modern humans, according to a presentation here yesterday at the fifth annual meeting of the European Society for the study of human evolution.

Ever since researchers first discovered thousands of bones and teeth from 28 individuals in the mid-1990s from Sima de los Huesos ("pit of bones"), a cave in the Atapuerca Mountains of Spain, they had noted that the fossils looked a lot like primitive Neandertals. The Sima people, who lived before Neandertals, were thought to have emerged in Europe. Yet their teeth, jaws, and large nasal cavities were among the traits that closely resembled those of Neandertals, according to a team led by paleontologist Juan-Luis Arsuaga of the Complutense University of Madrid. As a result, his team classified the fossils as members of Homo heidelbergensis, a species that lived about 600,000 to 250,000 years ago in Europe, Africa, and Asia. Many researchers have thought H. heidelbergensis gave rise to Neandertals and perhaps also to our species, H. sapiens, in the past 400,000 years or so.

But in 2013, the Sima fossils' identity suddenly became complicated when a study of the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) from one of the bones revealed that it did not resemble that of a Neandertal. Instead, it more closely matched the mtDNA of a Denisovan, an elusive type of extinct human discovered when its DNA was sequenced from a finger bone from Denisova Cave in Siberia.

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To: Norm Lenhart
Redheads. I married one. Trust me ;)

Perry Mason, in the books by Earle Stanley Gardner, usually insisted on having a redhead nurse in his employ -- he had to hire nurses on occasion to care for convalescing clients/murder suspects. Part of the nurse's job was to protect the patient from browbeating police and nefarious others who'd try to buffalo their way past her.

Only redhead nurses would do because "You can't bully a redhead," according to Mason/Gardner. {^)

81 posted on 09/13/2015 4:37:45 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Finny

Actually I should explain it for those either sane or unfortunate enough, depending on one’s perspective.

As a man, you would literally have to put a full-scale man level beating on a woman half your size as you would on a full frown man to shut down a pissed off redhead, And MOST of them could absorb that beating equally to a man twice their physical size.

So you learn to say “Yes my Queen” alot.


82 posted on 09/13/2015 4:39:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: Black Agnes

None more red. Damn.


83 posted on 09/13/2015 4:40:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Nope.

And a personality to match.

Just give him whatever he wants. He’s not violent outside a bar brawl. But he’s very persistent and persuasive :)

Offspring is the same way.

I let them deal with each other. I don’t have the fortitude for that.


84 posted on 09/13/2015 4:42:21 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

We are not cats. we only have one life to give and redheads devour souls at will.

Keep them fed and make no sudden moves.


85 posted on 09/13/2015 4:45:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Too funny.

And too true.


86 posted on 09/13/2015 4:47:40 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I once heard the perfect description of living with a redhead. The highest of highs and the lowest of lows. Nothing in between. On/off. Period.

You either gotta know that going in or you will be eaten alive. People think it’s all just a joke and whatnot for the sake of conversation etc but it really, REALLY isn’t. And no matter how often you try explaining it, they will never believe it. It’s one of those ‘gotta learn the hard way things’.


87 posted on 09/13/2015 5:01:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: BenLurkin

European folk do—I got my dna tested at 23andme and it came back 2.8% Neanderthal.


88 posted on 09/13/2015 5:03:58 PM PDT by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: Black Agnes; Norm Lenhart
Sadly, now it’s just gray.

Yeah, but a born redhead remains a redhead for life.

89 posted on 09/13/2015 5:07:06 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Black Agnes; Norm Lenhart

What I mean is that even if the hair is gray or a soft tabby color, it’s still a redhead underneath!


90 posted on 09/13/2015 5:08:08 PM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is imaginary.)
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To: Finny

Exercise extreme caution! It’s a trap!!!! ;)


91 posted on 09/13/2015 5:11:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Humans - and their bones - are relatively small. Their bones probably crunch up quite easily, certainly more easily than dinosaur bones.

Plus humans frequently buried their own. Dinosaurs didn’t hold burial services.


92 posted on 09/13/2015 7:19:40 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Grimmy

Blam posted a topic some years ago, “Basques and the Ainu”, let’s see...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1160355/posts


93 posted on 09/13/2015 8:13:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SunkenCiv

Pretty scarf.


94 posted on 09/14/2015 3:29:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BenLurkin

I passed that person in the gutter and gave her a buck, just the other day. Not Human?


95 posted on 09/14/2015 3:29:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

So this isn’t the first attempt to drive European males extinct?


96 posted on 09/14/2015 3:30:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Game/set/match? Then we got government schools and the sexualization of a half dozen generations and everybody’s ‘gay’ today.


97 posted on 09/14/2015 3:32:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

The focus on morphology was driven by science. Now it must be driven out.


98 posted on 09/14/2015 3:36:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: dp0622; Norm Lenhart

I don’t trust the Bonobo research. I’ve seen some of it and the methodology is shoddy. Keep in mind that there is strong confirmation bias, particularly in the softer sciences which tend to have more lieberals in them. Bonobo hypersexuality fits their narrative.


99 posted on 09/14/2015 3:39:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Then we’ll have to rely on lessology, and no one wants that.


100 posted on 09/14/2015 4:43:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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