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Why do girls have a right to genital integrity, but not boys?
The Libertarian Republic ^ | May 26, 2015 | Austin Petersen

Posted on 05/26/2015 8:52:27 AM PDT by rickmichaels

The mother of a four-year-old son, Heather Hironimus, tearfully signed an order allowing for the circumcision of her boy, so that she could be released from prison. The event has stirred a national debate about the necessity of circumcision, and the question of whether all children should be allowed the right to bodily integrity.

Hironimus was imprisoned after she fled with her son, attempting to avoid the fulfillment of an agreement with the boy’s father that would see him circumcised. She’s now taken center stage on the issue, with anti-circumcision activists rallying to her cause, raising $50,000 in legal bills to defend her son, Chase Hironimus. The father wishes to circumcise the boy so that he looks like him.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: chasehironimus; circumcision; genitalintegrity; goofball; heatherhironimus; homosexualagenda; libertarians; medicalmarijuana
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To: rickmichaels
Vagino-Americans Unite!
21 posted on 05/26/2015 9:12:13 AM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: unlearner

“The mother of a four-year-old son, Heather Hironimus, tearfully signed an order ...”

Heather Hironimus, the mother of a four-year-old son, tearfully signed an order...

unwieldy either way, but not really incorrect?

KYPD


22 posted on 05/26/2015 9:15:14 AM PDT by petro45acp (Grubbers "stupid" electorate is starting to look very much like Romney's 47%. Just sayin...)
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To: rickmichaels

Male circumcision vs Female circumcision is apples to oranges.

They are not even close to the same thing.

Cutting off the entire head of the penis vs Female circumcision would be apples to apples.


23 posted on 05/26/2015 9:15:22 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: rickmichaels

More proof libertarians are morons.


24 posted on 05/26/2015 9:15:58 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: DiogenesLamp

interesting that you don’t think consider liberty to be a noble concept


25 posted on 05/26/2015 9:16:38 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: DiogenesLamp

They have no grasp of anatomy and physiology either, it seems.


26 posted on 05/26/2015 9:17:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: DiogenesLamp; Rodamala

Yes, because the Republican Party is so noble and stands for so much of what is good.


27 posted on 05/26/2015 9:18:05 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Ingtar
I thought the issue at the root of this was going back on the agreement with the boy’s father.

It sounds like there are two separate questions here.

Q: Should the state force parents to circumcise male infants/children? A: Hell no!

Q: Should the state uphold the validity of private contracts where they have no compelling interest? A: Yes, they should.

28 posted on 05/26/2015 9:18:24 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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To: Daveinyork
I wrote:
I really have no use for Libertarians. They might have a grasp of economics, but they have no grasp of the social system which serves as the foundation for our economic system.

There is a reason why the Western world led the world in advancement and technology for so many years, and it is entirely because all social systems are not equal.

To which you responded:
beautiful straw man argument. Have you ever considered becoming a liberal? They are terrific at straw man arguments, even better tha n you, but, then there”s always room for improvement.

And what part is a misstatement of your position? (That's what a "straw man" argument is.) I believe I am making an observation, not misrepresenting your opinion. Perhaps you see others as better at making straw man arguments because you don't know what one is?

29 posted on 05/26/2015 9:19:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: MAexile

My thoughts exactly. I suspect she had more legal rights to stop this than she knew. The clue is “The boy’s father,” in the article and not, “Her husband.”


30 posted on 05/26/2015 9:20:37 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

“circumcision lessens risk for a number of disorders”

“Disorders”? Please list!

“...lessens risk”? How so?


31 posted on 05/26/2015 9:20:42 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You don’t even know what my opinion is.


32 posted on 05/26/2015 9:25:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( Marbury vs.Madison was the biggest power grab in American history.)
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To: rickmichaels

I thought this whole ‘don’t circumcise’ issue was just a gay fetish thing, now it’s become a big liberal issue.

Oh wait...


33 posted on 05/26/2015 9:25:52 AM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: rickmichaels

Removing the foreskin on a boy hardly affects the anatomy, while significantly reducing his risk of contacting STDs.

Genital mutilation on a girl causes her significant physical harm in all case with no benefits.


34 posted on 05/26/2015 9:28:29 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: bigbob
interesting that you don’t think consider liberty to be a noble concept

Now that there is a strawman argument. (Misrepresenting my position.) I most certainly do regard Liberty to be a noble concept, but I am aware that there is a distinct difference between the concept of "Liberty" and "License."

Libertarians claim "Liberty" as their mantle, but in fact they are just "Libertine", which is not at all the same thing. In fact, it is very nearly the opposite.

Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without.

-Edmund Burke-

35 posted on 05/26/2015 9:29:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: MrB

Would seem that with a good Christian, very few would have much opportunity to know what ‘it’ looked like.


36 posted on 05/26/2015 9:33:26 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: ifinnegan
They have no grasp of anatomy and physiology either, it seems.

There isn't enough time to list all the things of which Libertarians have no grasp.

37 posted on 05/26/2015 9:33:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: CharlesOConnell

Seems that the AAP has found that STD risk is no lowered in men that are circumcised.

http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/pregnancy-childbirth/tenth-month-post-partum/deciding-whether-or-not-circumcise-your-baby-boy


38 posted on 05/26/2015 9:34:09 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: V K Lee
Oh, that cuts!

Not mortally, I fear. :)

39 posted on 05/26/2015 9:34:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: rickmichaels

The anti-circ movement. A refuge for anti-Semites?
40 posted on 05/26/2015 9:34:11 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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