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To: bigbob
interesting that you don’t think consider liberty to be a noble concept

Now that there is a strawman argument. (Misrepresenting my position.) I most certainly do regard Liberty to be a noble concept, but I am aware that there is a distinct difference between the concept of "Liberty" and "License."

Libertarians claim "Liberty" as their mantle, but in fact they are just "Libertine", which is not at all the same thing. In fact, it is very nearly the opposite.

Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without.

-Edmund Burke-

35 posted on 05/26/2015 9:29:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Man, that’s good stuff D-Lamp


44 posted on 05/26/2015 9:36:18 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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