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The Rise of Men Who Don't Work
The New Yawk Times ^ | 12/11/14 | Amanda Cox

Posted on 01/27/2015 6:48:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

At every age, the chances of not working have changed in the last 15 years. Teenagers are far more likely not to work. Older people are retiring later and working more. In the ages in between — the periods of life when most people work — the changes have been smaller, but they are still substantial.

In the late 1960s, almost all men between the ages of 25 and 54 went to work. Only about 5 out of every 100 did not have a job in any given week. By 2000, this figure had more than doubled, to 11 out of every 100 men. This year, it’s 16. (People in the military, prison and institutions are excluded from these figures.)

Of course, the economy was stronger in 2000 than it is today, with a lower official unemployment rate — the share of people not working and actively looking for work — than today. But for prime-age men, the rise in official unemployment explains only about one-third of the increase in not working.

The remaining two-thirds is made up of those who are not working and not looking for work. Every month, the Census Bureau and the Bureau of Labor Statistics ask these men who are not in the labor force to describe their situation. Are they disabled, ill, in school, taking care of house or family, in retirement, or something else? Here are the trends within some of the larger of those categories:

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
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1 posted on 01/27/2015 6:48:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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Interactive map of WHERE men aren’t working:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/12/upshot/where-men-arent-working-map.html#


2 posted on 01/27/2015 6:50:20 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: All; Admin Moderator

This is an article from December, 2014. New York Times, so take it with a grain of salt. I did a title search - can’t find it posted, but please delete if it’s a duplicate.


3 posted on 01/27/2015 6:51:25 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Dobie Gillis says “Winning!!”


4 posted on 01/27/2015 6:52:17 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

More like WON’T work.


5 posted on 01/27/2015 6:52:54 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It’s the Obama economy basically. A lot of people busting their asses working for peanuts look around and see others getting every freebie imaginable from the government including free healthcare.

They either say the hell with it and do likewise or try to get on disability.

Look at what the equivalent “pay scales” are for people on the dole.

As far as the young, many of whom have some of the worst work ethics, illegals have taken most of the entry level positions everywhere. The rest who want to work can’t find anything.


6 posted on 01/27/2015 6:54:43 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Coincidentally there’s a rise in men who just want to bang on the drum all day.


7 posted on 01/27/2015 6:58:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
One of the side effects of living in a country where men don't work starting as I did at 14 or so is that men these days simply don't know how to do anything.... Not even wait tables or bag groceries, as I did. It's just weird to have to explain to a grown man how to do a simple thing most men learn about when they're boys... Then they look at you and say Heh. So I guess you know a lot about this stuff, eh?

Oh well. I suppose I am blessed to live in a time where there are still people who don't say bitch I ain't doin' dat fo' YOU, bitch! I ain't no SLAVE! Gimme my Obamaphone, capitalist racist bitch!

(repeated reference to working man as female dog intentional.)
8 posted on 01/27/2015 6:59:25 PM PST by golux
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I suspect many of them are engaged in economically productive activities that aren’t on the official radar. A truck, a bag of tools, and an ad on Craigslist is all some young fellows need to get by for now.


9 posted on 01/27/2015 7:01:14 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: GeronL
Maynard...
10 posted on 01/27/2015 7:06:12 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Closer to 1 in 4 adults aged 25 to 54 are not employed.


11 posted on 01/27/2015 7:07:45 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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12 posted on 01/27/2015 7:08:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It seems to me that if you go back 50-100 years, things were a little like this:

The upper class had multiple servants
The middle class might have a maid (on TV, we saw this with "Hazel", "The Brady Bunch", "Maude", "Family Affair", etc. These shows were not ridiculous. Plenty of people lived like that.)
The lower class did basic work, including being the "help" for the others.

The Middle Class, by the way, usually had one income (the man). So, with one income, you can be in the middle class, raise a family, and have a maid.

Around about 1960 or so, feminists (who didn't have jobs, and didn't take care of a household -- they had a maid for that sort of thing) stood up and said, "We're bored and we don't like being second class citizens!" And they insisted on joining the workforce.

And there's nothing wrong with that, although I'm not sure they ended up with a great deal, that's not really my business.

And somehow we have transitioned to a society in which the middle class is shrinking rapidly -- and golly you need two incomes to even think about being middle class -- and men increasingly do not work, and a great many people are on the dole.

Something tells me that we went down a horrible path somewhere.

13 posted on 01/27/2015 7:09:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

How much of this is due to the combination of the internet and near universal use of pre-employment background checks preventing people who made a mistake from never being able to put their past behind them?


14 posted on 01/27/2015 7:09:17 PM PST by fso301
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Or a little seed money for a drug distribution franchise. ;-)


15 posted on 01/27/2015 7:09:25 PM PST by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I credit feminism. Women want to work outside the house but don’t want to wash the dishes or clean the house.


16 posted on 01/27/2015 7:12:02 PM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: dfwgator

Those are mostly Packer Fans, LOL!


17 posted on 01/27/2015 7:12:37 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: proxy_user

I know several that fly under the radar, they do OK.


18 posted on 01/27/2015 7:13:30 PM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: fso301
In Texas if you get arrested for a crime, guilty or not, just arrested, you don't
get to move into safe apartments. They have to move into the ghetto apartments.

I cannot imagine how that works with employment.

19 posted on 01/27/2015 7:13:59 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I believe Nancy would say this is a good thing. They can write poetry, become artists, do paintings, make pottery.....things that contribute to society. But mostly collect welfare.


20 posted on 01/27/2015 7:14:01 PM PST by Voltage
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