120-114 BC: The Cimbrian flood and the following Cimbrian war 113-101 BC

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The Cimbrian flood (or Cymbrian flood) was a large-scale incursion of the North Sea in the region of the Jutland peninsula (Denmark) in the period 120 to 114 BC, resulting in a permanent change of coastline with much land lost. The flood was caused by one or several very strong storm(s). A high number of people living in the affected area of Jutland drowned, and the flooding apparently set off a migration of the Cimbri tribes previously settled there (Lamb 1991)...

The Cimbri were a tribe from Northern Europe, who, together with the Proto-Germanic Teutones and the Ambrones threatened the Roman Republic in the late 2nd century BC. Most ancient sources categorize the Cimbri as a Germanic tribe, but some authors include the Cimbri among the Celts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts). Old sources located their original home in Jutland, which was referred to as the Cimbrian peninsula throughout early historical times. As an example, on the map of Ptolemy, the "Kimbroi" are placed in the northernmost part of the Jutland peninsula, in the modern Danish region Himmerland, shortly south of the sound Limfjorden. The moden Vendsyssel-Thy region of Denmark north of Limfjorden was at that time still mainly a group of islands. Himmerland (Old Danish Himbersysel) is generally thought to refer to the name Cimbri. However, the precise origin of the name Cimbri is unknown...

The Gundestrup Cauldron is the largest known example of European Iron Age silverwork... This unique piece of artwork suggests that there was contact between Jutland and southeastern Europe, but it is uncertain if this contact can be associated with the Cimbrian migration.

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The migrations of the Cimbri and the Teutons between 113 and 101 BC (left diagram), with places of major battles with Roman forces indicated. Drawing showing Cimbrian people during their European journey (right).

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Barry Fell noted that this particular image from the Gundestrup Cauldron is holding up his hands and spelling "thunder" in Ogham -- and the figure is a thunder deity. One view (which IMHO is correct) is that the method of writing began as fingerspelling, a way to communicate silently and (if others were unfamiliar with it) secretly.

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Interesting!

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His hands are up, but something tells me he is NOT surrendering.

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Ambrones (Ligures?) – Flood Survivors of the 2nd century BC (Cimbrian War)
http://freya.theladyofthelabyrinth.com/?page_id=610

Odal Land, The Cimbri — 120-114 BC — The Cimbrian flood
http://theudwinniler.tumblr.com/post/29698557551/the-cimbri-120-114-bc-the-cimbrian-flood

Kingdoms of the Germanic Tribes - Cimbri and Teutones
http://theudwinniler.tumblr.com/post/29698557551/the-cimbri-120-114-bc-the-cimbrian-flood

Cymbrian flood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymbrian_flood

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Gundestrup cauldron (left). Plate E from the Gundestrup Cauldron (right), apparently showing Roman warriors.

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Or maybe he was saying, “Hands up! Don’t shoot!”

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The only benefit I’ve noted from the global warming hysteria was for some researchers, considering it a cyclic event, to possibly explain its potential effects on human development and migration. Just glanced through the article and it seems to be folling that perception.

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• An Outing For Hadrian At The British Museum
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• Nautical Archaeology Takes A Leap Forward
• In pictures: Ancient Roman paintings
• Mapping Pune's Roman Connection
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• Roman Tombstone Found At Inveresk
• GOP Moves to Label Roman Empire Genocidal
• Report: Ancient Roman graveyard found in suburban Copenhagen
• A quick history lesson: America is no Rome - The tired analogy of imperial decline and fall
• Archaeologists Find Ancient Tunnel Used By Jews To Escape Roman Conquest Of Jerusalem
• Omens and Superstitions (Romans and Etruscans)
• Learn from the fall of Rome, US warned
• Learn from the fall of Rome, US warned
• Learn from the fall of Rome, US warned [by GAO comptroller David Walker]
• Major Find At Sagalassos (Colossal Statue - Hadrian)
• Why Did Rome Fall? It's Time For New Answers
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• Gladiators' Graveyard Discovered
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• The Battle of Daras--The First Victory of the Last Great Roman General
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• Early Welsh warriors in red who once defeated the mighty Romans
• Europe diary: Big birthday (EU at 50).
• Roman clues found at ancient hill (UK).
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• Gladiators Fought To death In Chester (UK)
• Roman Descendants Found In China?
• Emperor's Treasures Found (Maxentius)
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• Hunting For Hadrian
• Rome's Palatine Hill shows new treasures
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• Iron Age remains hailed as crucial [ Inverness Scotland ]
• Roman mosaics found on Quantocks
• How TV is wiping out the movies -- again
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• An Empire's Epidemic (Justinian Plague)
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• Pre-Roman sanctuary discovered [ Etruscan federation ]
• Lights Out: My Two Cents on What We Stand to Lose
• DUmmie FUnnies 08-25-06 (Gary Hart Falls Off The Deep End)
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• Ancient Welsh city found
• Catacombs at Hal Resqun re-discovered [ Malta ]
• Worker From The West (Ancient China)
• 1,500-Year-Old Byzantine Port Discovered
• Two and Out for 'Rome' January will begin final season for 'Rome' and 'Sopranos'
• What the Romans did to us [ review of An Imperial Possession Britain in the Roman Empire ]
• FSU Etruscan expert announces historic discovery at ancient site [ Cetamura ]
• World Heritage bid hope for wall [ Antonine Wall in Scotland ]
• Is the Truth About Masada Less Romantic?
• Search For India's Ancient City (Muziris - Roman)
• Tombs Of Roman Foes Discovered
• Third Century Roman Inscriptions Discovered In Basque Country
• Ancient Engraved Chessboards Found On Great Wall
• Egypt to excavate Roman city submerged in sea
• Spectacular Brooch Find May 'Unlock Secrets Of Hadrian's Wall'
• Roman Graveyard Found In Quarry (UK)
• DIGGING TO BYZANTIUM: Turkish Tunnel Project Unearths an Ancient Harbor
• Parking lot replaces historic Roman city [ Colonia Augusta Firma Astigi in Spain ]
• Archaeologists discover unusual network of burial chambers in Rome
• Treasure (Archaeology) Dig Threatens Bosphorus Rail Link
• Spain destroys lost Roman city for a car park
• Herod's harbour turns itself into bit of a dive
• The Portraiture of Caligula in Right Profile- AR Denarii: The Imagery and Iconography- Joe Geranio
• Italians Dig Deep to Reveal Forgotten Roman City
• When In Vietnam, Build Boats As The Romans Do
• The Marsala Punic Warship
• Virgil's Demi-God City 'Found'
• Lucca's Roman past revealed
• Archaeologists Find Ancient Israel Tunnels (used during revolt against Romans 66 to 70 A.D.)
• Thieves steal goddess head while museum awaits restoration
• Where's my copy of the Gladiator Rulebook?
• Roman villa found in Sicily
• A Visigoth in Kent?
• A Visigoth In Kent?
• Scholars Unearth Mystery (Romans)
• Literacy in the Time of Jesus - Could His Words Have Been Recorded in His Lifetime?
• Carausius
• Post-Roman Ancient Jewish Village Discovered
• Which character on "Rome" are you most like?
• Traces Of Tsunami In Ancient City Of Patara (Turkey)
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• Romans May Have Learned From Chinese Great Wall: Archaeologists
• The Lessons of the Roman Empire for America Today
• Why December 25? The origin of Christmas had nothing to do with paganism
• Untouched Roman Sarcophagi Found
• Ancient Roman Brickworks Uncovered
• Ancient Roman Anchors Found in Israel
• Ancient Roman Anchors Found in Israel
• Salvaging Caligula [Nemi Ships, Caligula, and Mussolini]
• Claudius' Naumachia on Fucine Lake (Those About To Die, chap III)
• Season Finale: Rome, Episode 12, Kalends of February 9PM EST---Legio XIII Forever!
• 1,700-Year-Old 'Roman Glass' Discovered In East China
• Vanity: New episode of "ROME" on HBO-HD tonight (Episode 9: UTICA)-GGG Ping!
• Apart from vomitoriums and orgies, what did the Romans do for us?
• HBO-HD shows "ROME", Episodes 6, 7, 8 tonight in prelude to new episode "UTICA" 30 OCT.
• Ancient Roman Navy Soldier Surfaces
• Golden Land For Finding Roman Treasure
• Roman Finds Re-Write History
• Roman Theatre Goddesses Unearthed In Crete (Athena & Hera)
• Israeli archaeologists unveil Byzantine mosaic, table
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• Enthusiast uses Google to reveal Roman ruins (googling, googlemaps)
• Rome (new HBO series)
• BBC's £58m Rome is most violent, explicit and costly drama yet
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• Ancient Roman Puzzle Yields Clues
• Romans' Brutal Crackdown on Celts
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[SunkenCiv]

I wholeheartedly agree.

[SunkenCiv]

;’)

[A Formerly Proud Canadian]

“Don’t taze me, bro!”

[MUDDOG]

You look at the map of their wanderings, maybe they weakened the Gauls in advance of Caesar’s conquests.

[SunkenCiv]

They were Celts, I believe. :’) And Gaius had everything he needed to kick the living ka-ka out of the whole bunch.

[SunkenCiv]

And, from and for the fringe:

The Oera Linda Book
by Wiliam R. Sandbach
http://sacred-texts.com/atl/olb/index.htm
http://oeralinda.webs.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oera_Linda_Book

[MUDDOG]

Sometimes great conquests are preceded by an earlier event which weakened the conquered people, like when the Byzantines defeated the Persians right before the Muslims overran Persia.

I'm thinking the Cimbri could have had some such effect on the Gauls.

[SunkenCiv]

European Kingdoms
Northern Europe
Jutes (Eudoses)
http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/ScandinaviaJutes.htm

[dsc]

“is that the method of writing began as fingerspelling, a way to communicate silently and (if others were unfamiliar with it) secretly.”

Fascinating. And now the gangsters, outside the pale of civilization by their own choice, are re-inventing it.