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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


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To: Black Agnes

http://www.thesierraleonetelegraph.com/?p=7352#more-7352

“Ebola strikes first female doctor in Sierra Leone – appeal to Bill Gates for help”

More info.

If they’re appealing to Gates it’s a sure thing they want her to come here.


1,861 posted on 09/11/2014 12:15:49 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

He’s a bit unusual.


1,862 posted on 09/11/2014 12:26:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Black Agnes

That’s what I heard when I read it.


1,863 posted on 09/11/2014 12:49:07 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/exclusive-ebola-survivor-kent-brantly-donates-blood-treat-rick-sacra-n201131


1,864 posted on 09/11/2014 12:50:02 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

http://www.dw.de/virologist-fight-against-ebola-in-sierra-leone-and-liberia-is-lost/a-17915090

[snip]
“The right time to get this epidemic under control in these countries has been missed,” he said. That time was May and June. “Now it is too late.”
Schmidt-Chanasit expects the virus will “burn itself out” in this part of the world.

With other words: It will more or less infect everybody and half of the population - in total about five million people - could die.


1,865 posted on 09/11/2014 12:54:14 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: trisham; Black Agnes

I saw the “Ford Models”, so I had to check out his FB page to see in which capacity he worked for them. Apparently he was an assistant to talent agents. I don’t know if I would have put that on my FB page, if I were supposed to be some expert on diseases. But that’s just me. ;^)

The thing that struck me is that apparently he has been all over the place, giving interviews and lectures on Ebola, and he is not giving correct information if his quote from NYT is any indication.


1,866 posted on 09/11/2014 1:06:33 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne; Black Agnes

He seems to be in love with the camera.


1,867 posted on 09/11/2014 1:10:10 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Shelayne

I found the counter-arguments interesting. No one who disagreed with the analysis said it is wrong. Instead they complained that the analysis wasn’t “helpful” and could lead to “hopelessness.”

Regardless of the help and hope aspects, the virologist is probably correct regarding the future course of the disease in currently infected areas. He was absolutely correct that limiting the virus to those areas already infected is priority one—and the same priority the UN/WHO/CDC/AU/etc. is refusing to even discuss.

This thing is going to become so terrible I won’t have words to describe it.


1,868 posted on 09/11/2014 1:19:06 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: Shelayne

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/rss/387743—who-ebola-cases-in-democratic-rep-of-congo-doubled

Bad news.


1,869 posted on 09/11/2014 1:19:10 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Black Agnes

Tell that to the guy who sat next to Patrick Sawyer on the airplane.


1,870 posted on 09/11/2014 1:19:47 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: Shelayne

It’s more than that. The 50% CFR is misleading for a variety of reasons. The BEST shot at surviving is having an IV and access to the BP meds and other stuff. If that many people are sick at once it will be unlikely that most of them even get bottled (clean) water. So the CFR in such a situation is likely to be close to the 90% expected from Zebola.

So, add about 4m people to make 9m dead.

That’s a crazy number. Horrific. Unbelieveable. Let’s all pray it’s just wrong.


1,871 posted on 09/11/2014 1:22:04 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ElenaM

I agree with everything you said, and was especially touched by your last sentence.

I am praying.


1,872 posted on 09/11/2014 1:22:26 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: trisham; Black Agnes

Agree.

There is a lot of “Look at me!” “Look who quoted ME!” “I am so smart and important!” “ME! ME! ME!” I had to close his page because I was going to get eyestrain from all my eye-rolling.


1,873 posted on 09/11/2014 1:25:01 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne; Black Agnes

LOL! I hear you. :)


1,874 posted on 09/11/2014 1:25:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Black Agnes

Oh, I agree.

I watched the “Nightline” interview with Dr. Kent Brantly, and a few things really popped out to me. First of all, he tested negative at first, so they tested him again 72 hours later, and that was positive. Second, he is absolutely certain that he did not get infected in the isolation ward, as they were so very strict with their practices, procedures, and PPE. He thought he may have contracted it through just talking to a patient in a consultation, or a time he sort of put his arm around the shoulders of a child. None of these were suspected of Ebola. And the other thing, which directly goes to your point, he had not had a single patient survive Ebola up to the point he was infected. Not a single one.

These WHO numbers are only the documented cases. These are the people that actually get into the clinics and put on paper for the Health Ministry, are they not? We already know the multiple reports about all the possible Ebola patients being turned away from hospitals and clinics because they are overflowing or shut down. The dead are lying in the street, and entire villages are wiped out. The actual numbers must be staggering. It is a false comfort for those to see the numbers from the various countries and think, “This really isn’t that bad in the scheme of things.”. No, it isn’t “bad”, it is HORRIBLE. And as you say, the 50% CFR is totally misleading.

I can’t even wrap my brain about the kinds of numbers this virologist is talking about, but they are very real and very possible. God, help them. And us.


1,875 posted on 09/11/2014 1:56:32 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Black Agnes
Black Agnes,

You are entirely correct. I was with Civil Defense during the Cold War.

" The 50% CFR is misleading for a variety of reasons. The BEST shot at surviving is having an IV and access to the BP meds and other stuff. If that many people are sick at once it will be unlikely that most of them even get bottled (clean) water."

Which means more likely 90% fatalities in the affected areas. We can only hope that doesn't include Nigeria.

1,876 posted on 09/11/2014 2:03:35 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Thud

I hope so as well.

As I’ve said though, Nigeria can afford a police state for quarantine if they want. They are also far more wealthy as a nation. And have much lower illiteracy. Plus public schooling has been compulsory and free there for a couple 2 or 3 generations now. So much more of the populace is a believer in hygiene that’s closer to what we accept in the West. Not that it couldn’t get started there. Just more difficult. Nigeria is closer to Mexico than the rest of West Africa.

With the money they’ve made in the past 40 years with oil exports, were it not for corruption, they could be like Norway or any other Scandanivian country wrt public services. But, Africa will be Africa with corruption.

Were it not for the ‘don’t you know who I AM!’ diplomatic runners Nigeria wouldn’t have had any cases so far.


1,877 posted on 09/11/2014 2:09:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

1,878 posted on 09/11/2014 2:47:12 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Charlie Crist (D-Green Iguana))
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To: Shelayne; Black Agnes; Smokin' Joe; Covenantor; Dark Wing
Shelayne:"... First of all, he(Dr. Kent Brantly) tested negative at first, so they tested him again 72 hours later, and that was positive. Second, he is absolutely certain that he did not get infected in the isolation ward, as they were so very strict with their practices, procedures, and PPE."

#1) The doctors first test negative, second test (72 hours later) , was positive - he could have been shedding virus in that 72 hour period. Testing is known to have false negatives.
#2) "he had not had a single patient survive Ebola up to the point he was infected. Not a single one. - that reaffirms him shedding virus, since statistics previously show a median 30 - 40% recovery rate.
#3) he is absolutely certain that .. they were so very strict with their practices, procedures, and PPE." - much of that medical protective gear which already was needed to be upgraded.

1,879 posted on 09/11/2014 6:02:01 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Shelayne
he had not had a single patient survive Ebola up to the point he was infected. Not a single one.

They said however that he rec'd a blood transfusion from a child whose life he had saved..

1,880 posted on 09/11/2014 6:06:56 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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