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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD MAY 10, 2013
Free Republic | 5/10/2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 05/10/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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Sorry to be so late posting today. Had to take a late spot in Physical Therapy, so that ran later than usual.

Its been cloudy most of the day, but the sun is peeking out now and then this afternoon, and the temp is a great 68 degrees. Perfect for being outdoors.

I finally got a few things moved from the seedling area to larger peat pots, and sitting outside on the northerly side of the house. Started some peanuts and melons this week. Sugar Baby Watermelon, and canteloupes Minnesota Midget, Iroquois, and Valencia Winter.

Got the got 14 strawberries planted in urns and hanging baskets. Also started some cucumbers indoors for later transplant. Hubby got the Bantam Corn planted 70 DTM.

The indoor peppers are putting on new peppers like crazy, I am thinking that I may just put them in a slightly larger pot, and see how long they go.

The potatoes finally got here, so will be planting them this weekend, lord willing and it doesn't rain cats and dogs. LOL

Hope all is well with you and your gardens. Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 05/10/2013 2:41:34 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 2:43:59 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Hi. I’m recuperating from my knee replacement surgery and depressed because I cannot work in the yard.


3 posted on 05/10/2013 2:47:18 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes; Black Agnes

Asparagus is finally starting to come up outside, but no signs of life in the baggie on top of the fridge.

Lettuce being eaten by every small slimy or 6 legged pest there is it seems. Trying non toxic sprays.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 2:47:32 PM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: greeneyes

Why are you going to PT? I had PT today too.


5 posted on 05/10/2013 2:48:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Califreak

My asparagus in the little cups is so cute. I’ve got 25 or 30 of the Purple Passion that have broken the surface so far and about 15 of the Jersey Giant. Not bad for a total of $8.95 in seeds. Now, hopefully I can refrain from driving over them and killing them. Again.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 2:49:20 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

I didn’t put out the tomatoes and peppers this week because of the weather. We got some rain yesterday but thankfully the bad storms went around us. More storms are heading this way later though.

The squash is blooming. Nothing else to report.


7 posted on 05/10/2013 2:49:35 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Califreak

I use Diatomaceous Earth (DE) and Sluggo-Plus for my edible greens. The combo really really really work and you can eat same day with both of them.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 2:49:55 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I hope that you are doing well with the recovery, that can be difficult to deal with. I will be praying for you.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 2:51:00 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I can't seem to keep a tagline; don't know where they go to.)
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To: greeneyes

THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY

Before I start on this week’s gardening saga, after last week’s thread, an FR gardener from my town sent me a Freepmail. My town! I thought I was the only Freeper in my town. I won’t reveal his identity, he can do that if he wishes, but I saw pictures of his garden. Maybe I can coax him to put that link on our thread – how about it fellow gardener Freeper? He said he enjoyed my posts on the gardening thread. I think I know why – I think he was laughing his head off at my attempts to grow something.

My week was filled with gardening as I learn to do this stuff. I wrote this yesterday because it’s long and I wanted all of you to know the details of how I’m getting my act together. Maybe there will be some new people reading and they will know it’s not impossible to do this.

:o) THE GOOD: If you recall, I had planted various veggie seeds in six bags of potting soil mix and put them in blank spots in the garden. No seeds were up as of yesterday. Yesterday it rained and it’s raining again today. During a stop in the rain today, I went out and two bags have plants growing. One bag’s plants are over two inches high – how does that happen in one night? I know plants do their growing at night, but plants growing that tall in one night is magic. The other bag with plants are at least an inch. No plants have appeared in the other four bags. I also know the wild tomato plants are up, planted in the ground, but they are tiny and that soil may not allow them to grow and produce. I have Roma tomatoes and cherry tomatoes growing, all are still green at this time. I think all the lettuce is a bust – that soil in those two planters may not be good enough to support them. New potting soil will go in those next spring. I have Little Gem Lettuce seed coming and I’ll plant that in potting soil mix. Maybe I’ll get fabric growing bags for that as I’m out of pots. The bags are inexpensive and I also have some sweet peppers and basil in tiny pots that need to be transplanted. Picked those up weeks ago at Lowes – they are not heirloom.

:o( THE BAD: I ordered plastic tags to stick in containers and the ground so I would know what is planted there. Yesterday, I wrote all the names on tags with the included pen full of paint (not ink, paint). Had to use throw away surgical gloves because the paint leaked out of the pen and that paint is supposed to stay on the tags even in rain – I would have had black hands with paint that didn’t want to come off. So, when I went out a short time ago, guess what? All the writing on the bags was gone due to the rain. I’ve got tags but don’t know what’s in the individual bags. Rats.

:o( THE BAD: My little Yorkie, Prissy, started barking at the glass door that leads to the garden. She knows if anything moves outside and always tells me by barking and jumping on my chair and hitting me in the chest with her two front feet if I don’t respond immediately to her barks. I looked out there and there was a YOUNG SQUIRREL in my garden. I picked Prissy up, opened the door, came out and squirrel left. A damn squirrel, I knew it would happen. I knew several days ago, one was coming in the garden because there are footprints in some of the bags. Johnny said the squirrel may have eaten the seeds out of the bags. Damn.

:o( THE UGLY: I had to face facts – squirrels are in those trees behind my garden in another person’s yard. I have to figure a way to fix this and there are the birds in those trees, too, with their houses in the trees and they are going to come into my garden and eat my stuff. When I was out there today and plants had come up, I put a sheet of row cover over those bags with the exposed plants. Maybe that will deter the squirrel or maybe not.

:o) THE GOOD: I have figured a way to defeat this problem in the future. Somewhere in my outside storage building, I have an unopened very, very large bird net to keep birds out – and squirrels if it’s done right. I have to give up planting in the dirt as I can’t provide security for that area. Now, if this was a SHTF time and I had to have this food, I would kill (with my pellet gun as that’s why I got it) every squirrel that came around, and I may do it to this one if I have proof he is eating my stuff instead of just walking across the bags. I will give the squirrel a fair hearing but those footprints are evidence he’s been there. Maybe he’ll take the SODDI defense (some other dude did it), blame it on another squirrel. (I worked with a lawyer on a case choosing a jury for him and he said his client was going to take the SODDI defense (I had to ask what that was).

My solution to fix this by next spring is this: Plant all the food in containers I put on the deck. I’ve already gotten the two big containers to plant tomatoes and I will get more for more tomatoes and other foods before next spring. I also bought a very large fabric container in which to plant heirloom sweet potatoes and I read how to keep sweet potatoes until the next season so I would have my own slips to plant if TSHTF and couldn’t get slips from a company. Everything will grow in containers on the deck and the huge bird net will go over all of it. The net will stay up off the plants due to the tall lattice that’s on the big tomato containers.

I have a new garden hose as the very old one was heavy and went into kinks multiple times when I tried to water and I spent time fighting with that thing. Fixed that.

I ordered a flower mix that attracts hummingbirds and butterflies to plant at the border of the dirt in the garden. Another one is the Sesame flower to go in a big pot in the garden and it attracts pollinating flying critters. It does produce Sesame seed to eat so I’m sending some of those seeds to Johnny so he will have flowers that produce food. I don’t have that order yet.

:o( THE BAD: I don’t have enough space to grow all types of veggies. Thinking of when TSHTF, what foods do I need to sustain life, not what would be nice to have? Johnny says I need beans, corn, squash, tomatoes, peppers and that will keep one alive – I would add sweet potatoes to that as they are very high in nutrients.

:o) THE GOOD: I’ve been researching and I can grow corn on my deck which I thought I couldn’t. Each container will have corn, bean, squash in it. The beans use the corn stalk to grow up and that also strengthens the corn plant. The corn plant shades the squash plant. If I have 8 of these or more, clumped together, wind will pollinate the corn plants and if there isn’t any wind due to my high brick walls, I’ve got an outdoor fan that will do it. I don’t know how many containers I’ll have but I’ll stagger plantings so I’ll have food growing for as long as possible. I have to come up with a fall garden plan, too.

I’ll have to do the research to know when each of those plants can be planted and others planted later (staggered planning) to keep producing food month after month. I have a folder to keep all this information on paper.

:o((( THE FINAL UGLY: Johnny. I ask questions and he keeps telling me facts, then I have to come up with solutions to get around those facts that would stop me from carrying out my plan. He is the factual messenger of bad news regarding gardening and you know what has happened to bad news messengers throughout history. I love Johnny, he is one of a kind.


10 posted on 05/10/2013 2:53:04 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Califreak

Give your asparagus a bit longer. My Martha (or mary, I forget) Washington has taken about 10 days longer than the purple passion or jersey giant. Perhaps because it’s heirloom and the others are hybrids. When I noticed the other two were sprouting I checked it and put it back. Just checked on it again and 50% or more have little tiny stubby roots beginning. I’ll have to plant it in the little cups tomorrow.

We’re going to use the Asparagus bed as a partial privacy screen for part of our property.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 2:53:04 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Oh no. Hope that gets better soon.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 2:54:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

50% of the outdoor asparagi have sprouted in their jiffy pods.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 2:56:03 PM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Several issues. Cervical spine, C2 rotated into incorrect position. Several other C7 etc so tight causing pain, also knee pain, and hip pain - very tight muscles in thigh area need stretching, so that I can put on my socks.LOL

Also strength training to get back to baseline.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 2:58:32 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

Thanks! Don’t want to wait to eat. Need to plant somore too. Plz xcuse-posting w/kindle.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 3:00:20 PM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: Marcella
you know what has happened to bad news messengers throughout history

They were rewarded with lots of beer and dancing girls? ;)

/johnny

16 posted on 05/10/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Black Agnes

This is what I use on lettuce and other greens. Also my strawberry beds:

https://www.jungseed.com/dp.asp?pID=50192

I have a big area to cover and use 1 or so of the 2.5lb containers per year. The Plus version has Spinosad. While it doesn’t *kill* my fire ants, it does cause them to move somewhere untreated. They’ve got a ‘free shipping’ with $75 order this weekend, promo code of MOMSDAY. They also have a whole bunch of their plants and other good stuff on sale under ‘Web Specials’. I got the Foxtail rosemary and the Sochi tea plant last week when they went on sale. Those should be here tomorrow or Monday.

No, I don’t work for them. They’re just one of my garden temptation sites though. YMMV, of course. I haven’t seen the sluggo-plus too many places. It kills rolly-polys too. Which is the main reason I get that one.

I got an O’Neal blueberry, pineapple sage, and chocolate mint from Shumway. My goal this summer is an herb garden just outside my front yard.

Now, I’m off to mulch the rice bed. I’ll be setting out about 250 little rice plants tomorrow. All at the 1 or 2 leaf stage. They’re so cute! Look just like blades of grass at this point.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 3:04:34 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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Ants got over 50% of my original planting of the peanuts. The replacements are coming along nicely. Always start extras.

Early blight on the potatoes, probably because they got the molassas/seaweed spray, and the fungi spores stuck. I did get some dime to quarter sized potatoes. Fall crop is my main crop on potatoes. This spring crop is just new taters for fresh use.

I ordered some mushroom spawn. It's time for me to try that and fail several times before I figure that out. I love mushrooms.

Everything else is doing well. The tobacco doesn't have much height to it, but I've got leaves almost as large as 2/3ds of a sheet of paper. I'll be collecting leaves and hanging them in a month or so.

/johnny

18 posted on 05/10/2013 3:05:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Califreak

Make sure you get ‘Food Grade’ DE when you get it. This is important. Jungs sells that too. So does our local Co-op. I get it either place, it’s approximately the same price accounting for tax IF shipping happens to be free.


19 posted on 05/10/2013 3:06:13 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bgill

That’s why I went with larger peat pots instead of transplanting into the garden. If the weather changes, I can still bring them in.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 3:06:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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