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Third Jupiter Fireball Spotted——Sky-Watching Army Needed?
National Geographic ^ | 8/24/10 | Andrew Fazekas

Posted on 08/25/2010 9:30:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Amateur sightings prompt call for a network of backyard astronomers.

On August 20, for the third time in about a year, amateur astronomers spotted a fireball above Jupiter's atmosphere.

The discovery suggests the planet gets walloped more often than previously thought, say astronomers, some of whom are calling for a global "volunteer army" of backyard Jupiter watchers.

The recent flash follows on the heels of July 2009 and June 2010 fireballs over the gas giant planet. (See "Bright Fireball Slams Into Jupiter" [June 2010] and "Jupiter Impact Creates Huge New Spot" [July 2009].)

Astronomers speculate that the August 20 flash was caused by a relatively small meteoroid burning up completely in Jupiter's upper cloud deck.

"The brightness and duration of the flash were comparable to the one in June 2010, which we estimated to be roughly 8 to 13 meters [26 to 43 feet] across—smaller than a Greyhound bus," said planetary scientist Heidi Hammel of the nonprofit Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado.

In 1994 Hammel led the Hubble Space Telescope team charged with investigating the famous impact of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 on Jupiter.

Since Shoemaker-Levy, the conventional wisdom has been that Jupiter fireballs are rare cosmic events. But given the three recent fireballs, astronomers are starting to think the flashes might be fairly common.

Pros Already Rely on Amateur Astronomers

Jupiter may be getting walloped as often as every few weeks, experts say. But the number of potential impactors in Jupiter's vicinity remains a mystery.

"We don't know the population of these objects in the outer solar system, and we will never pick them up in sky surveys, because they are just too small to see before they impact," said Amy Simon-Miller, chief of the Planetary Systems Laboratory at NASA's Goddard Spaceflight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

That's where amateur astronomers come in.

"We rely on them quite a bit to monitor Jupiter, because we just can't do that from the professional telescopes," Simon-Miller said. "Time is so constrained on them, and everybody wants to use them.

"Also, most cameras on these large scopes are not designed to take videos," she said. "So it would be very difficult for us to catch one of these."

Catching the Jupiter flash apparently wasn't very difficult for astronomy hobbyist Masayuki Tachikawa of Kumamoto, Japan, who made a video of the August 20 Jupiter fireball, according to spaceweather.com.

Within hours after the initial report of the fireball went online on the 20th, a second Japanese sky-watcher realized he'd independently recorded the same flash. Each stargazer had used nothing more than a webcam attached to a backyard telescope.

Ongoing technological advances in consumer-grade gear are driving the rise in Jupiter-impact observations, Simon-Miller said. "Most amateurs are now taking high resolution, digital videos, whereas in the past they used to just take photographs and make sketches," she said.

And, thanks in part to all the Jupiter-flash publicity, telescope enthusiasts "now know how to look for these things."

With backyard astronomers having proven their mettle, A Web-based global amateur network for monitoring Jupiter impacts would prove valuable, the Space Science Institute's Hammel said.

Such a network is forming "organically already," she added. "All that would be needed are specific protocols," such always noting the duration of a flash and notifying professional astronomers.

Clues to Avert an Asteroid Impact on Earth?

With amateur astronomers increasingly monitoring Jupiter, scientists hope a clearer picture might emerge on the true number of meteors in the solar system.

"The scientific significance is that, with the increasing number of these [impact] events, we can begin to build a rigorous census of objects in Jupiter-crossing orbits, which we had apparently underestimated," Hammel said.

"Of more direct importance to us here on Earth is our understanding of the Earth-crossing objects, and these [Jupiter] observations will inform and revise our knowledge of these potentially hazardous bodies."


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: army; asteroid; asteroids; bolide; catastrophism; fireball; immanuelvelikovsky; impact; impacts; jupiter; space; spotted; velikovsky; worldsincollision
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1 posted on 08/25/2010 9:30:14 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: KevinDavis

Astro Ping.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 9:34:28 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: LibWhacker

No problem. Just duck and cover.


3 posted on 08/25/2010 9:34:38 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: LibWhacker
The discovery suggests the planet gets walloped more often than previously thought,

As large as it is, the amount of gravity it exerts and it's proximity to to asteroid belt, it should not really be surprising that it gets hit a lot.

4 posted on 08/25/2010 9:34:50 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

There is of course the theory that Jupiter saves our bacon by vacuuming up most stray comets.


5 posted on 08/25/2010 9:35:46 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju
"There is of course the theory that Jupiter saves our bacon by vacuuming up most stray comets."

Yes, I have heard that before, too. I think it's a well-accepted theory.

6 posted on 08/25/2010 9:37:52 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: sinanju
There is of course the theory that Jupiter saves our bacon by vacuuming up most stray comets.

Sounds like more of that Jupiter puffery to me.

7 posted on 08/25/2010 9:38:20 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: LibWhacker

Obama will start an astroid created/saved program as soon as he gets a czar appointed. Apply at whitehouse.gov.


8 posted on 08/25/2010 9:40:31 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: OrioleFan

bttt


9 posted on 08/25/2010 9:41:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: LibWhacker

Just lightin’ farts at a frat party at Jupiter U!


10 posted on 08/25/2010 9:46:44 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: sinanju
There is of course the theory that Jupiter saves our bacon by vacuuming up most stray comets.

Well, I hope that youse Earthlings keep paying Juiper its 'protection' money. You got a nice planet here, and I'd hate to see anything bad happen to it...

11 posted on 08/25/2010 9:47:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sinanju
There is of course the theory that Jupiter saves our bacon by vacuuming up most stray comets.

Planetary exloitation!

Jupiter is using it's excessive and nefariously obtained gravity to rob other planets of their rightful comets.

We need a celestial affirmative action program, with comet quotas, redistribution and reparations so the other planets who lost the planetary gravity lottery can be made whole. Only government can right this historical wrong.

It's for the children...

Anyone who disagrees must be an ignorant bigot.
12 posted on 08/25/2010 9:48:39 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: bgill

13 posted on 08/25/2010 9:55:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: chrisser

“Anyone who disagrees must be an ignorant bigot.”

You forgot racist. Always play the race card remember? ;-P


14 posted on 08/25/2010 9:55:27 AM PDT by chichipow
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To: LibWhacker
Third Jupiter Fireball Spotted Causing Earth Global Warming, Pakistan Floods and Russian Forest Fires-

Obummer Bans All Fireballs for 6 months

15 posted on 08/25/2010 10:01:35 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: LibWhacker
Bush's Fault

Someone had to say it...

16 posted on 08/25/2010 10:06:17 AM PDT by NorCoGOP (OBAMA: Living proof that hope is not a plan.)
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To: chichipow
You forgot racist. Always play the race card remember?

I made the silly assumption that a planet's race couldn't be determined. That's probably because I'm a white male.

It's up to the exploited planets to define what race is. I'll bet Pluto has plenty to say about the matter, but Jupiter's keeping the other planets down.

And that Saturn, well its just a bitter clinger that better watch its back when the proletariat planets upset the solar system patriarchy after the revolution.
17 posted on 08/25/2010 10:07:02 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Lazamataz
I bet ... you'd hit it.
18 posted on 08/25/2010 10:21:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: LibWhacker

Jupiterians heard that Madman Achmadanjad said he had the Missle of Death. Jupiterians aren’t waiting for him to shoot it at them. They are being preemptive.


19 posted on 08/25/2010 10:29:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: chrisser

And we have the audacity to classify asteroids into three groups, carboniferous, stony and metallic.... How imperialistic of us. As to assum the Stony ones are inferior to the metalic ones....


20 posted on 08/25/2010 4:35:09 PM PDT by GraceG
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