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Angelina Jolie Race Row
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1287505/Race-row-erupts-casting-Angelina-Jolie-Cleopatra.html ^

Posted on 06/18/2010 7:21:52 AM PDT by chesley

She hasn't even been officially confirmed as having the role, but Angelina Jolie is already receiving criticism over her possible portrayal of the legendary Queen of the Nile.

Jolie, who turned 35 last week, is caught up in a racially charged debate over whether the role should have been played by a black woman

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1287505/Race-row-erupts-casting-Angelina-Jolie-Cleopatra.html#ixzz0rDMI1hT4

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TOPICS: History; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; angelinajolie; cleopatra; cleopatravii; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble
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To: chesley

Yep. A member of the Ptolmaic ruling family of Egypt, descended from one of Alexander the Great’s generals.


21 posted on 06/18/2010 7:31:07 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: chesley

Cleopatra was a Macedonian Greek.


22 posted on 06/18/2010 7:32:49 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DrC
I don’t recall there being much controversy over Elizabeth Taylor depicting Cleopatra back in the 1960’s. But I guess our racial consciousness hadn’t been sufficiently elevated at the time,

It existed, but such race baiting black supremacists who said things like white people (white devils) were an African science experiment gone wrong were rightly ignored.

Over the next 25 years, they got departments at our universities to spread their hate in "sociology" courses.

23 posted on 06/18/2010 7:32:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Humm, was there a problem when Liz Taylor played Cleo?

Yes. Enough history hadn't been rewritten yet and some public schools still taught history.

24 posted on 06/18/2010 7:33:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The Egyptians have never been black.’

Not true, the Eegyptians of Upper Egypt were from present day northern Ethiopia. There are many images from ancient Egypt that portray black Egyptians.


25 posted on 06/18/2010 7:34:13 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: VanDeKoik

Mario Peebles said that the key thing to remember was that Jesus was a black man. I thought the key thing to remember was the Jesus was the Son of God who died for our sins.


26 posted on 06/18/2010 7:34:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: chesley

Maybe the Black community is mixing her up with Miss Cleo!


27 posted on 06/18/2010 7:34:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: VanDeKoik

Didn’t you know that Macedonians were really West Africans in disguise?


28 posted on 06/18/2010 7:35:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: VanDeKoik
"This seems to be a really stupid hang up with blacks in the U.S. whom were brought up with some myth that Egypt was inhabited with nothing but black-skinned people."

That's a myth I'm perfectly willing to perpetuate up to the point that modern Jews demand reparations from blacks for their ancestor's bondage ;-)

29 posted on 06/18/2010 7:35:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: chesley

Yes, she was descended from Alexander’s general Ptolomey, who was Macedonian.


30 posted on 06/18/2010 7:37:26 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Puppage

“Racially charged? It’s a freak’n MOVIE for God’s sake.”

Don’t forget that Hollywood is Leftist, Liberal, Loony Land where academics is forbidden and affirmative action takes the fore in any decision making.


31 posted on 06/18/2010 7:37:31 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: All

I see from the article that they are ‘no longer taking comments’.
I’ll bet there were some doozies.


32 posted on 06/18/2010 7:38:03 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: VanDeKoik
I worked my way through two volumes of martin Bernal's Black Athena out of curiosity when I was in grad school the last time.

OK, I'm a engineer, not a linguist or a historian, but my BS meter is very sensitive, and his "evidence" was extremely thin.

33 posted on 06/18/2010 7:39:57 AM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: DrC
I don’t recall there being much controversy over Elizabeth Taylor depicting Cleopatra back in the 1960’s....

Probably true but I'd bet that the black population in America was just as peeved as with this new casting choice. The fact is that in the early sixties there were absolutely no nationwide (or powerful local) outlets for the collective black voice. I suspect that it is this restricted access to public media that is at the root of the perceived absence of discontent.

34 posted on 06/18/2010 7:41:43 AM PDT by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: chesley

Man, what a bunch of racists.


35 posted on 06/18/2010 7:43:47 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: chesley
Yep, pure blooded descendant of Ptolemy, one of Alexander's generals. Ignorance used to be something people tried to hide, not put out there for everybody to see.


36 posted on 06/18/2010 7:44:11 AM PDT by katana (For what is an Irishman ? But a .......)
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To: chesley

Indeed, for reference there are several classical historians to consult. They chronicled Antony’s love affair with her, and uh, if she had been “nubian” (the term Romans used for black people of africa)it would have been noted. This is right up there with the “egyptian” period of hip hop. ridiculous.


37 posted on 06/18/2010 7:44:47 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: moose-matson

Actually, the myth that all good things done in Egypt were done by people with black skin did not exist back then. I think it was the early 1970’s when blacks started saying that all important people in history were secretly negroes. Jesus was black. Socrates was black. Beethoven was black. It goes on and on. When Elizabeth Taylor starred in “Cleopatra” this sort of thinking had not yet been dreamed up.


38 posted on 06/18/2010 7:45:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Miss Cleo


Tina Turner as Cleopatra


"Do You Remember The Time" music video by Michael Jackson
Black people did run Egypt because Michael Jackson says so!

39 posted on 06/18/2010 7:45:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: chesley

This is one of those really strange situations where all the evidence says one thing yet there are serious people who think she was Black. If you do a search on the internet you will be surprised how prevalent the “Cleopatra was Black” theory is.

As near as I can tell, the proof they cite is that one of Cleopatra’s Grandparents is unknown so she must be Black. The fact that Egyptians were not Black and the Ptolomys tended to marry their own kin seem to not mean a thing.

Since there is something like a one in a million chance that she has a tiny amount of Black blood then she must be Black.

The world is going insane.

BTW, there is mention of her looks in ancient writings and none of them say she was Black. I am sure one person described her as having light brown hair.


40 posted on 06/18/2010 7:48:17 AM PDT by yarddog
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