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DNA On Letters To Mom Confirms ID Of Sailor Killed At Pearl Harbor In '41
NPR ^ | 13 April 2010 | William Cole

Posted on 04/15/2010 1:12:31 AM PDT by Palter

"Sixty-eight years after he was killed on Dec. 7, 1941," The Honolulu Advertiser writes, DNA lifted from envelopes that 18-year-old sailor Gerald Lehman licked when he sent letters home to his mother have helped identify his remains.

Now, the remains will be brought from Hawaii back to Michigan. His mother died in 2005. Her daughter, Peggy Germain, said it was the woman's "dearest wish" to have Lehman's body brought home for burial. It was Germain's research that led to the discovery that Lehman's remains had been buried with others in Hawaii -- and eventually to the DNA tests that confirmed the identity.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: dna; godsgravesglyphs; hawaii; michigan; military; pearlharbor; ww2

Wow.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 1:12:32 AM PDT by Palter
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To: Palter

The Punchbowl is the final resting place for many lost at Iwo.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 1:22:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"The Punchbowl is the final resting place for many lost at Iwo."

It's a beautiful cemetary. When I was stationed at Kaneohoe Bay I had went out there on a number of Sundays to walk around and view. Anyone taking a vacation to Hawaii, while on Oahu, it is definitely worth a trip up to the Punchbowl national cemetary. Its kind of like the Arlington of the Pacific.
3 posted on 04/15/2010 4:51:40 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We visited Honolulu in March.
Saw Pearl Harbor (the Missouri, Arizona Memorial, bowfin/submarine memorial) but didn’t get to the Punchbowl.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 4:56:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It’s been many years since I was in Hawaii last. In fact the U.S.S. Missouri was a commissioned ship in the Navy still. Am I to understand that it is docked at Pearl Harbor now? If true, that’s pretty neat. Did you get to go on board the deck where the gold seal is displayed where the Japanese signed the Peace treaty?


5 posted on 04/15/2010 5:16:03 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Yes.
The Mighty Missouri had just been moved in and out of dry dock for a complete repaint and tidying up. It looked like a brand new battleship.
Groups of eight or ten people were accompanied by guides who told the ship’s story, the history of the Iowa Class BBs and some little known insights from the signing ceremony.
We could go up inside the gun mounts, inside the control room (ancient round radar screens side by side with 1980s missile control equipment that was added under RR.) We looked in on the ward room, set with dinner service for the officers, awaiting their return. Very cool.
On the ship’s port side, a canvas awning covers about fifty feet of the teak deck where the brass marker is punched into the decking and a plexiglass table displays a copy of the signed documents. There is also a metal sign that recounts the signing ceremony and a 30 star US flag that General MacArthur wanted to have displayed for the event (from the opening of Japan, Adm Perry, 1853.)
The bow of the battleship is about 100 yards from the Arizona Memorial, as if to signify the beginning and end of the war. The Arizona wreck gives up about a pint of heavy oil every day which you can see and smell as soon as you get aboard the memorial. Inside the memorial are the names of the lost sailors from December 7, 1941.
The submarine Bowfin and the memorial to lost submarines on the other side of the harbor is very moving. It consists of a series of stones in a circle that represent each sub and its crew.


6 posted on 04/15/2010 6:46:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Good stuff. I liked your analogy about the beginning and ending of WWII with the Arizona memorial and the U.S.S. Missouri side by side. I'm sure that is why they probably have the Mizzou there. I got the priviledge of re-enlisting on the Arizona memorial once. Of course it was in the section dedicated to all the Marines that were on board and died that fateful day.

I remember the first time I was out on a float and our battle group was getting an escort for a time from the New Jersey and Missouri. As I looked out over the water at them, what struck me initially was how low they sat in the water. In my minds eye, I had always thought they would be these gigantic ships, but the battleships sat very low in the water so that they have a low profile I imagine.

It was unusual to have both of those battleships together and I got pictures of both of them. At that time both the Iowa and Wisonsin were also in service. All four of the battleships from the Iowa class. Now they are all gone and it was a terrible shame what happened to the U.S.S. Iowa. Not sure if we'll ever know what happened on that fateful day.
7 posted on 04/15/2010 7:10:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Someone on FR mentioned that the Iowa had only been repaired cosmetically but the money for full repairs had been appropriated. She is parked in Siusan Bay, north of San Francisco.
The Navy allowed a suicide story to circulate regarding several members of the crew (who were said to have taken their lives via the explosion) but this was later discounted.
One of the tour guides said that on one occasion, men were allowed out on the deck of the Missouri when the 16 inch guns were firing. That was the last time.
8 posted on 04/15/2010 7:29:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And the Navy also insinuated that a couple of the guys were gay and it was some sort of jilted lovers quarrel thing and he wanted revenge on his former lover or something like that. It was real sickening stuff that some brass was trying to perpetrate to save their butts. Unless you have some good proof, you shouldn’t be smearing a guy who died while serving his country.


9 posted on 04/15/2010 7:36:32 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
It was more than likely caused by a spark that ignited one or more of the powder bags before the breech was closed.
I believe the bags in use in the 1980s were 40 years old. Nothing good happens to aging gunpowder or explosives.
10 posted on 04/15/2010 7:45:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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11 posted on 04/15/2010 2:04:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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12 posted on 04/15/2010 2:04:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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13 posted on 04/15/2010 2:58:33 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Are they grave markers or just memorial stones? I ask because I watched a program on Iwo that suggested sailors and Marines were buried at sea.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 5:34:28 PM PDT by mcshot (The nightmare is playing out. America is being conned by ignorance & fraud.)
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The Iwo graves were exhumed and the remains moved to Hawaii.
15 posted on 04/15/2010 5:41:58 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I’ve always wanted to go, haven’t made it yet.


16 posted on 04/16/2010 1:10:54 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

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17 posted on 04/16/2010 1:13:25 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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