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Ain't Gonna Study War No More (Borders Bookstore vs. Universities; VDH ping)
National Review Online Corner ^ | March 18, 2010 | Peter Robinson

Posted on 03/18/2010 6:12:31 AM PDT by C19fan

Today on Uncommon Knowledge, Victor Davis Hanson, military historian and author of Father of Us All: War and History, Ancient and Modern, contrasts the recent collapse of military history as an academic discipline with the abiding interest in the subject displayed by ordinary Americans.

If we walked right over to the campus bookstore or looked in the university’s catalog of classes, we would see gender studies this, gender studies that, anything with “studies” – leisure studies, race studies, environmental studies. Military history? Not there. But if we walked right down to Borders Books, a commercial enterprise, we’d see that under “military history” there would be shelf after shelf.

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Of course, another great point from a great scholar. I think it is a good thing Military History has been kicked out of universities. Imagine how twisted the cirriculum would be to fit what likely would be the professor's Marxist ideology. Let us add all the Military History related shows on the History Channels, there is one channel 100% devoted to Military History. When it comes to social sciences, maybe economics is the one exception, you are better off self-teaching than taking courses at a major university.
1 posted on 03/18/2010 6:12:32 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Many nontraditional Schools offer Strengths in Military History as part of a history degree. Many of these schools posses the same Regional Accreditation as major universities. I suspect they offer military history because they make a fortune from military Tuition Assistance and the GI Bill. As a young Marine the history of the Corps was taught and stressed to the point that 30 years later from memory I can recall personalities and data on the Corps history. When I made Chief, we spent hours on U.S. Navy history (should happen sooner, Navy drops the ball here). I suspect history, especially military history is more popular with military members. Thus the non-trad schools offer a course of study in military history. When I took my graduate degree, ironically the only military history I had was in the economics courses.


2 posted on 03/18/2010 6:25:03 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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Self-teaching has major drawbacks. Find a group that is involved with history and participate in discussions. Critical thinking requires some criticism of our precept ions and analysis especially when it comes to history. You may be (or not) surprised at the number of groups available which are dedicated to the critical and thoughtful study of history.
3 posted on 03/18/2010 6:30:39 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: C19fan

When I joined the Navy in 1951, I received a softcover book about two inches thick titled “Your Navy”, wherein they went through the history and heroes of the USN down through the years. Great stuff - gave it to my grandson.


4 posted on 03/18/2010 8:59:22 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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5 posted on 03/18/2010 3:30:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: SunkenCiv

The best source for Civil War books:

http://www.morningsidebooks.com/


6 posted on 03/18/2010 3:40:44 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have whole shelves of the stuff. Its my second favorite reading material right after Science Fiction (military SF and space opera, of course!).


7 posted on 03/18/2010 4:07:30 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Some how I'm not surprised, after all ROTC is no longer welcome on many campuses. And I'm also surprised that History is still taught in colleges and universities since most of history has been conflicts and wars.

Seems like another Children's Crusade in the making.
8 posted on 03/18/2010 4:13:16 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: C19fan

One school has a major MA Military History, Norwich University. Also offered on line. Norwich happens to be one of the oldest engineering schools as well. Any besides West Point older?


9 posted on 03/18/2010 6:34:54 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: SunkenCiv

I studied this fascinating woman

Helena Blavatsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky

Her premise was how could she write on how a man thinks, without being one. So she hit the high seas as a man for 12 years and found Theosophy, which I also took a course in in 78’

Theosophical University Press Online
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/tup-onl.htm

Thought this may suit your forum well -g-


10 posted on 03/18/2010 7:06:24 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: C19fan

I suppose I can depend on VDH to make the point, but pretty much all of history is, in one way or another, the history of warfare.


11 posted on 03/18/2010 7:10:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: C19fan

They want to turn all western males into castrati to serve third world overlords and Muslims.


12 posted on 03/18/2010 7:33:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: JustPiper

Blavatsky was a con artist, which of course makes her interesting right there. :’) People interested in Edgar Cayce might find some, uh, similar ideas in Blavatsky (Cayce in his alleged trances repeated some of Blavatsky’s stuff).


13 posted on 03/18/2010 8:02:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: rdl6989

Thanks!


14 posted on 03/18/2010 8:02:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: Little Ray

Too many books, not enough time. :’)


15 posted on 03/18/2010 8:03:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: BIGLOOK

Happy are they who have no history. Bitter and violent are they who make up some b.s. and call it history. :’)


16 posted on 03/18/2010 8:03:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: BIGLOOK

“And I’m also surprised that History is still taught in colleges and universities since most of history has been conflicts and wars.”

Also because it demonstrates the utter stupidity of leftist thought.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 10:43:39 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: rdl6989

That is a good source...may I plug Landmark Booksellers here in Franklin too while we’re at it?

http://www.landmarkbooksellers.com/

I have to watch myself spending like a drunken sailor in there...

Some of the parks have decent bookstores and rosters too actually.


18 posted on 03/18/2010 10:55:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (this is no way to run a nation, except into the ground)
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To: C19fan; SunkenCiv

When I was in school you could see the Marxist influence on some historians feeling military history was unimportant because economic factors would determine the outcome. I never bought that. It’s like the old saying about sports prognosticators and handicappers, sometimes you just need to actually play the game.


19 posted on 03/19/2010 12:47:26 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: wardaddy
I have to watch myself spending like a drunken sailor in there..

I could start my own library with the books I bought in Gettysburg. I'm planning on seeing the Carter house in Franklin one of these years.

20 posted on 03/19/2010 6:45:46 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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