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Modern man had sex with Neanderthals
Telegraph ^ | 10-25-09 | Amy Willis

Posted on 10/26/2009 3:33:00 PM PDT by Dysart

Modern man and Neanderthals had sex across the species barrier, according to leading geneticist Professor Svante Paabo.

Professor Paabo, who is director of genetics at the renowned Max Planck Institution for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, made the claim at a conference in the Cold Springs Laboratory in New York.

But Prof Paabo said he was unclear if the couplings had led to children, of if they were capable of producing offspring.

"What I'm really interested in is, did we have children back then and did those children contribute to our variation today?" he said in an article in The Sunday Times.

"I'm sure that they had sex, but did it give offspring that contributed to us? We will be able to answer quite vigorously with the new [Neanderthal genome] sequence."

The phenomenon is already seen in modern animals such as horses and zebras, and lions and tigers, but resulting offspring have always been infertile.

In recent years, fossils with both Neanderthal and modern human features have been found suggesting the two species interbred but previous scans of Neanderthal genes reveal Neanderthal DNA to have a very different make-up to modern man's.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Outdoors; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: didtheyordidntthey; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; modernman; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: AppyPappy

Who cares?! LOL!


141 posted on 10/26/2009 7:22:41 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: Dysart

Hey... almost any Navy bar, almost any night...


142 posted on 10/26/2009 7:29:37 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: allmendream

There is also a well known ‘Red Wolf’ in the southwestern U.S. - a cross between Wolf and Coyote... the offspring are known to reproduce in the wild.


143 posted on 10/26/2009 7:43:11 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay
You said it.

Amazing how much ‘common knowledge’ is absolute bunk. Journo takes it as axiomatic that such mixes cannot reproduce, and many think species are defined by what can and cannot interbreed.

Columbus also didn't ‘discover’ the world was round, it was common knowledge and the argument was not over the shape of the Earth but how far it was around (the figure of Eratosthenes was accurate, Columbus's figure made the journey optimistically shorter).

144 posted on 10/26/2009 7:52:47 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

Okay ... I’m glad you agree with me...


145 posted on 10/26/2009 8:05:59 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay
Oh yeah, 100%.

Just thought I would through out a different example of just how pervasive and pernicious these little ‘facts’ that are not are.

146 posted on 10/26/2009 8:08:17 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: ICCtheWay
And one of the reasons behind it is shoddy work by so called journalists.
147 posted on 10/26/2009 8:08:56 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: Dysart

148 posted on 10/26/2009 8:57:30 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: ICCtheWay

Since the Endangered Species Act, it is politically advantageous to treat every mutation of a species too common to qualify as if the mutation is the same as a whole new species, or if it is too slight in differences, as a subspecies, so that it can be defined as ‘endangered’ and grants may be procured to study and preserve it. In some cases such as the Florida panther it isn’t even unique enough to be considered a mutation so geographic isolation makes it a political ‘species-of-convenience’ so important to some organizations’ wallets and political agendas that they would sooner see it destroyed by inbreeding than admit that it is in fact nothing more than a common cougar by allowing the remaining population to be saved by increasing its genepool. There is more genetic variation between the chihuahua and the great dane than there is between a barred owl and a spotted owl, or between a yellow shafted flicker and a red shafted flicker, but with the dog breeds there isn’t the political “necessity.”


149 posted on 10/26/2009 9:08:15 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Bon mots
I'd Hit it! With a club.

It's much more likely "it" would hit you first. And there's a very good chance she'd be anthropophagus.

150 posted on 10/26/2009 9:15:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: DallasDeb; All

My husband, who grew up in farming area of the Middle West was once crossing a pasture and spied one of his classmates doing a goat. The guy said, “if you ever tell on me, I’ll kill you.” Well, he told me, but we were living five states away by that time, so nobody got killed ;-)


151 posted on 10/26/2009 9:26:17 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Dysart
Talk about your unscientific approach. What this guy is saying is that despite the lack of concrete evidence he "knows" Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens had sex. I wouldn't doubt that horny hunters on an extended hunt who came across Neanderthals had sex with their women, but you can't say you "know" something when you only strongly suspect it.

If they did have sex and the off spring were like mules and couldn't reproduce this could, in part, account for the extinction of the Neanderthal, however there would be no way of proving this because the DNA would have been lost.

152 posted on 10/26/2009 9:42:20 PM PDT by calex59 (We want our constitution back, and we will get it back.)
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To: TheVitaminPress

with clothes or without clothes?

With Bill Clinton you have to aSK!


153 posted on 10/26/2009 11:29:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (HARDCORE Redneck)
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To: calex59

Yes he’s drawing a conclusion with a complete lack of evidence. There are no hybrid fossils either. All the suspected hybrid fossils have turned out to be modern humans.


154 posted on 10/27/2009 4:47:31 AM PDT by Varda
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To: SunkenCiv

All Scots are suspect because of the prevalence of red hair, a known Neanderthal genetic trait.


155 posted on 10/27/2009 8:02:51 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Dysart
Modern man had sex with Neanderthals

Ah yes. I, too, remember college.

156 posted on 10/27/2009 8:05:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; SunkenCiv

“This is conclusive proof that primitive man had beer.”

I presume your comment means that all the Scots girls got better looking at closing time.


157 posted on 10/27/2009 8:06:31 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: cripplecreek

You know, you can build a fortune,

establish an empire,

conquer great lands,

but if you sleep with ONE NEADERTHAL,

you’ll always be remembered as . . .


158 posted on 10/27/2009 8:08:19 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: pyx

LEftists lack physical courage.

For that man’s fault, I doubt he lacks courage.


159 posted on 10/27/2009 8:09:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: FredZarguna

Cool, as opposed to Ortho docs.


160 posted on 10/27/2009 8:15:37 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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