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Scientist built a home made Magnetic Generator that produces 24 KW of free home electricity
youtube ^ | 08.16.2007 | skynews

Posted on 08/16/2009 10:55:50 AM PDT by stelka

Well, this is NOT a perpetual motion machine, but something interesting.. from the article: ... A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy... A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it... SkyNews vid:

http://www.youtube.com/v/w8TJlQlPi4s


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
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To: stelka

21 posted on 08/16/2009 11:17:57 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Hows My Posting? Please Contact flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: calex59
Magnetism and electricity are NOT the same thing.

Yes they are. It's called electromagnetism for that reason.
22 posted on 08/16/2009 11:18:33 AM PDT by allmost
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To: calex59

Umm if you are generating electricity you are also generating magnetism and vice versa. You cannot have one without the other. Since he is using a power source to create the magnetic field, and not generating the magnetism from another force he is simply generating electricity from magnetism he created from electricity.
EMF(electrocmagnetic force) is one of the fundamental forces in the universe, the two are not separate. So if he is putting into the system an x amount of energy he has to get the same out of the system, newtons law.


23 posted on 08/16/2009 11:20:18 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: stelka

TANSTAFL


24 posted on 08/16/2009 11:20:47 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: stelka
This is old news. There is a US patent on a device like this form the 70’s. It was in Popular science magazine. The problem then was getting powerful magnets the correct shape. Maybe the green religion will market it this time.
25 posted on 08/16/2009 11:21:55 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: allmost

That’s funny!


26 posted on 08/16/2009 11:23:48 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: JSDude1

[I think the point is to use permanent magnets to work against other magnets attr/repel force so that the motor is continually destabilized (and spinning), thereby generation of “free-energy”. I think it’s possible, but I’m not a scientist so what do I know..]

I came up with a similar magnetic plan in the basement when I was about ten. Alas, that and my Red Ryder land sailboat wagon seemed to have been crushed by some vast Haliburton conspiracy to deprive the world of my genius.


27 posted on 08/16/2009 11:28:36 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Dallas59

Mommy is not guilty. Even with the hair.

BTW - even if thei was true - how healthy would it be to have 24 KW’s being generated at your home?


28 posted on 08/16/2009 11:30:26 AM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: allmost
Well....mmmm, place a copper wire in a magnetic field, with the wire motionless, measure the voltage generated, no, your volt meter isnt broken...there is no voltage, unless the wire is moving....
29 posted on 08/16/2009 11:33:08 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Dallas59

They look like dandelions.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 11:36:56 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: stelka; darkwing104
I have a perpetual energy machine in my garage.

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It is fueled by the dumb ass first posts of newbies on FreeRepublic.
I am making millions selling my unneeded power to Con-Ed. I can let you buy into my business for a $50.00 up front setup fee and a 29.95 monthly maintenance charge.

Freepmail me if you are interested.

31 posted on 08/16/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: thinking

You are correct. To create the potential difference the wire OR the magnetic field has to move perpendicular away or towards the wire this creates an induced current. But you cannot create the EMF without an external force. Be it from steam moving a turbine or electricity from a battery. In other words no matter what if I put in 24kW of energy in from the force, I better get 24kW of energy out or most of it out or accounted for. Either way electricity and magnetism are always together and part of the same force.


32 posted on 08/16/2009 11:40:31 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: thinking
So you wish to rewrite physics and state they are separate? The effect is there. The usable energy is extracted through movement. The basis of electromagnetic induction works in reality due to the fact that they are the same force. Your example wishes to create energy from nothing. It would violate the first law of thermodynamics if a usable voltage was created.
33 posted on 08/16/2009 11:40:53 AM PDT by allmost
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To: stelka

“And as a special, one-time deal, I’ll throw in this attractive set of steak knives to the first 100 caller who order one.”


34 posted on 08/16/2009 11:44:00 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: stelka

Hell, that’s nothing! Mere child’s play! I have enough bowel gas bursting forth from my rectal cavity to light up Las Vegas for 1,000 years! Beat that!


35 posted on 08/16/2009 11:44:26 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: thinking

“Well....mmmm, place a copper wire in a magnetic field, with the wire motionless, measure the voltage generated, no, your volt meter isnt broken...there is no voltage, unless the wire is moving....”

There is an electrical field present with the magnetic field, just no electrical current to measure. If there was no electical field present to begin with, there would be no current generated when you moved the wire.


36 posted on 08/16/2009 11:44:40 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: JSDude1

Ferromagnetic materials(ie permanent magnets) either have to be created by man(which we mostly do) or created by nature. It is actually fairly hard to find them in the natural state in a quantity and state(ie no purification needed) where they are useful so we typically have to make them. So in order for us to do that we have to put energy into them to get all of the poles to align permanently. No free energy is there.


37 posted on 08/16/2009 11:46:53 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: aft_lizard

Thinking is not correct.


38 posted on 08/16/2009 11:47:06 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: calex59

“if he is saying they are using magnets to power magnets to make electricity. Sounds like BS to me.”

Not really, the concept I get from the link is they seem to be using a stationary electromagnet and reversing the current which changes the polarity (?) causing it to “push and pull” on the rotating magnet which is creating the electricity. If they can get the output to produce more then is necessary for creating the electromagnet then you have yourself a generator. All you need to do to get this thing started (and is seen at the link) is to give it a spin.


39 posted on 08/16/2009 11:51:05 AM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: Kirkwood

He is in that if you place a wire in a stationary magnetic field and didn’t move it and then tried to measure the current you would read nothing, no current, no emf. You only get current when one moves perpendicular toward the other. What he is doing however is ignoring the movement part. If you place a wire in a constantly changing magnetic field(ie a power generating turbine) then you will measure the EMF, current etc.


40 posted on 08/16/2009 11:51:24 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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