BIRTHER CROC: You are not getting your hand back until I see the long form Birth Certificate
Posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
DinkyJackson wrote on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302882/posts?q=1&;page=101
Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641, he was born on 8-4-1961, and the certificate was filed by the Registrar on 8-8-1961 ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html )
Today, the Honolulu advertiser publishes a story, and at the bottom includes a set of long-form BC’s from a woman who had twins at Kapiolani on 8-5-1961 who went to school with Obama.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists
These twins were born the day AFTER Obama AT KAPIOLANI. And their certificate numbers are LOWER than his (10637 and 10638). They were born 8-5-1961, the certificates were signed by mom 8-7-1961, signed by the MD 8-11-1961, and signed by the Registrar 8-11-1961.
THIS MEANS HE DEFINITELY WAS NOT BORN AT KAPIOLANI, because his BC number (born on Aug 4th and filed with Registrar Aug 8th) should have a lower number than the twins (Born Aug 5th at Kapiolani and filed with Registrar Aug 11th)
If anything this might give more evidence to a birth in Hawaii if he has a number near ones known to be assigned at the right time, as opposed to getting something in the next month's batch.
Interesting. Thanks. BTTT!
By itself it maybe meaningless but on the contrary it's only in the big picture that it's meaningful. When you consider the whole context, ie every individual piece of evidence from Obama not remembering which hospital he was born in, to spending million+ dollars to concealing his certificate, to the hospital suddenly declaring it had 'destroyed' all hard copies, to the lack of witnesses to his birth, to his gramma claiming to have witnessed his birth in Kenya... ad inf.. suddenly this new find takes meaning.
Honestly, I think he was born in HI but the father is listed as unknown, OR, the original BC was changed because of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, and no one can get at it because that is how adoptions are done. The old BC is usually changed and unavailable, or is destroyed, even.
Either way, though, when that came out, if it ever does play out that way, the natural born citizen issue would become secondary because of the massive fraud......
That is likely why they reconstructed an abstract of the original BC. It might have the original true information, but if there was an adoption, and that original was changed, then it just cannot be produced—the father would show as Lolo Soetoro now, even if he was born BO, Jr.
Wouldn’t it be funny if someone already had that BC number and went public about it. Funny stuff.
It could just be the sequence with which the birth info came in for recording. Some hospitals might not get them in right away, some parents are not ready with a name right away, so it holds it up for a couple. I am not sure this serial number question is important.
Obama's certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he born a day earlier.
Thanks, Rushmore Rocks.
Dead, I would think that the hospital he was supposedly born at would have the birth data in sequential order. If it is not, then he wasn’t born at that hospital. It would imply though that he was born in HI, otherwise the number would be far off from the sequence.
BIRTHER CROC: You are not getting your hand back until I see the long form Birth Certificate
One huge issue that needs to be pushed is the Charity Fraud issue. If Obama was not born at the hospital both Obama and the Hospital have a problem for using that letter to raise funds. Obama can claim he didnt know they were going to do that but he put the lie to paper.
>>> Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641
They published his long form birth certificate???
when do we get to see it?”
I think that is referring only to the serial number. The long form hasn’t been published.
Yes, it could have been a mistake. A freeper here said his birth certificate from that office had the wrong year stamped on it.
However, it opens the door for more investigation.
House passes resolution declaring the sun rises in the West.
These are COLBs??? Why do they have 5 signatures and Obama’s has none? I know his was pulled recently. It looks like these copies were from 1966. Note the serial numbers.
Thanks for the very important update, LucyT
Ping.
Why does the House need to vote on a declaration that Obama’s birthplace was Hawaii? It just makes it look like they are covering something up.
Those Birth Certificates look exactly like every BC I have ever seen, and I have seen quite a few.
>>> Wouldn’t it be funny if someone already had that BC number and went public about it. Funny stuff.
Would be even better if the a few of the actual owners of those 39 social security numbers were to sue him for identity theft.
While I am a birther, I think this is a non-argument in fact it is damaging to my belief. The last paper form put on the stack of paper would be the first birth certificate put in the system / i.e. numbered.
Actually, the fact that the numbers are so close is somewhat damning to our argument. The number that is on the factcheck “certification of live birth” seems like it is a legitimate number since it is so close to the twins bc number. It also implies that Barry’s BC was filed on or around august 4, 1961 his so called date of birth and not filed much later when mom got back from Kenya. I think this is damning to our birther argument.
How about this for some fun Ladies & Gentlemen:
1. A unnamed freeper living in Hawaii sees the letter from Obama congratulating the hospital as his birthplace. Based upon this letter, the Freeper donates $100 to the “birth” hospital.
2. A month later our Freeper is reading the internet and discovers that the letter from Obama may not be real. he/she now believes the donation was procured by fraud.
3. He/she sues in small claims court for the $100 back. As part of the suit, the Freeper subpoenas the original letter.
Want to bet the hospital returns the one hundred bucks before the court date?
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