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Phoenicians Left Deep Genetic Mark, Study Shows
New Jack City Times ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2008 | John Noble Wilford

Posted on 11/03/2008 5:16:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The Phoenicians, enigmatic people from the eastern shores of the Mediterranean, stamped their mark on maritime history, and now research has revealed that they also left a lasting genetic imprint. Scientists reported Thursday that as many as 1 in 17 men living today on the coasts of North Africa and southern Europe may have a Phoenician direct male-line ancestor. These men were found to retain identifiable genetic signatures from the nearly 1,000 years the Phoenicians were a dominant seafaring commercial power in the Mediterranean basin, until their conquest by Rome in the 2nd century B.C... The scientists who conducted the new research said this was the first application of a new analytic method for detecting especially subtle genetic influences of historical population migrations. Such investigations, supplementing the traditional stones-and-bones work of archaeology, are contributing to a deeper understanding of human mobility over time. The study was directed by the Genographic Project, a partnership of the National Geographic Society and IBM Corporation, with additional support from the Waitt Family Foundation. The international team described the findings in the current American Journal of Human Genetics... Samples of the male Y-chromosome were collected from 1,330 men now living at six sites known to have been settled in antiquity as colonies and trading outposts of the Phoenicians. The sites were in Cyprus, Malta, Morocco, the West Bank, Syria and Tunisia.

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1 posted on 11/03/2008 5:16:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/03/2008 5:17:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

One in every port?


3 posted on 11/03/2008 5:23:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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4 posted on 11/03/2008 5:24:38 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Can anyone explain the following paragraph from the article?

From the research emerged a distinctive Phoenician genetic signature, in contrast to genetic traces spread by other migrations, like those of late Stone-Age farmers, Greek colonists and the Jewish Diaspora. The scientists thus concluded that, for example, one boy in each school class from Cyprus to Tunis may be a descendant of Phoenician traders.

How was it different? Mr. Wilford is getting on in years I know, but shouldn't an editor have picked up this sentence laying out there without an explanantion?

5 posted on 11/03/2008 5:50:29 AM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE sure...)
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“When we started, we knew nothing about the genetics of the Phoenicians,” Chris Tyler-Smith, a geneticist at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in Cambridge, England, said in an announcement.

“All we had to guide us was history: we knew where they had and hadn’t settled.”

The politically-correct version of history, that is.

6 posted on 11/03/2008 6:23:02 AM PST by jonatron (God save America)
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I agree — everyone’s at least a cousin, so what he’s writing doesn’t make a lot of sense. Obviously, nearly everyone (if not everyone) in former Phoenician areas are descended from the Phoenicians, by virtue of the fact that they were a going concern so long ago. Just because some particular Y-marker isn’t there doesn’t mean the rest of the chromosome pairs haven’t dropped through. And even if they haven’t (i.e., let’s get at the limitation of such studies), they are still ancestors.

No wonder so many people are under the spell of Obama...


7 posted on 11/03/2008 7:13:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Every episode could have been titled, “Shatner’s Women”. ;’)


8 posted on 11/03/2008 7:15:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Sailors spreading their DNA!

Wow! Who’d a thunk it?!?!

New York Times, you guys are right up there on things, aren’t ya? Want to now tell us who will win the 1927 World Series?

New York Times, go Phoenician yourself!


9 posted on 11/03/2008 7:20:57 AM PST by Mr. Jazzy (USMC- Guarding freedom around the world since 1775)
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New York Times, go Phoenician yourself!
LOL! They aren't called "seamen" for nothin'.
10 posted on 11/03/2008 7:38:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Been in town long, sailor?


11 posted on 11/03/2008 7:59:01 AM PST by wildbill
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12 posted on 11/03/2008 8:01:09 AM PST by martin_fierro (Gawk Like A Phonecian)
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I think the local girls were attracted to my rigging.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 8:03:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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As always, great choice of graphic.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 8:06:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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