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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4


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To: lakey

It hasn’t been postponed. It is continuing. They had two days of testimony, at least 10 witnesses, maybe more - I didn’t count.

They re-convene Dec 10th to keep going. I assume that was the first open court time they could clear for several weeks following, after the Tsgiving holiday for Americans involved. Of course, they’ll have to take off for Christmas shortly after that, but at least they’ve started and they’re progressing.


3,741 posted on 11/27/2007 8:18:33 PM PST by Rte66
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To: lakey

“Million Air” is a brand name. They’re located here in Houston, but started in Dallas, I think. They’re real nice upscale FBO’s for private jets.


3,742 posted on 11/27/2007 8:25:23 PM PST by Rte66
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To: lakey
so I did it by wetting my finger and running it along the inside edges.

I use a child's glue stick, it works great and saves the tongue, and fingers from paper cuts.

3,743 posted on 11/27/2007 8:30:24 PM PST by SweetCaroline (***Your own healing is the Greatest Message of Hope to others!***)
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To: blueplum

You asked about fibers being left on Daniel’s clothing if he was lifted. You’re right. If they had a CSI type investigation, there’s no doubt unintentional clues would be left here and there...in a drain, on the floor, pills in a bed (unless those were planted).

I wonder what the police investigator will report in the next part of the Inquest?


3,744 posted on 11/27/2007 11:24:01 PM PST by SundayGardener
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To: Sacajaweau; Rte66

“...in Seidlin’s Court, Howard said he didn’t even know his role in Anna’s will and denied any insurance policies.”

Going back to the subject of life insurance policies. Sac, you state that HKS said he didn’t know his role in Anna’s will. That’s a bald faced lie. I’ve never known anyone appointed executor who wasn’t asked beforehand to play that role, do you? Second, he denied any insurance policies. If he was the only one privy to her life insurance policy, he could say whatever he wanted, couldn’t he?

Daniel’s death was the first step in this premeditated series of deaths. Daniel was the beneficiary of any life insurance policy, without doubt.

Next step would be to keep Anna under control, not thinking about her will so she wouldn’t change it, or about her life insurance so she wouldn’t update the beneficiary. Assuming here that HKS was the secondary beneficiary.

The role of the cups of pills every 4 hours were to keep the grieving Anna from thinking. And if she started to think, she could be slipped a drink of a hallucinagen that made her act like a little girl.

Next, find the right time and place for her death to seem natural. Thus the role of reducing methadone, which may have simulated flu symptoms, using dirty needles which caused a raging infection, adding multiple downers which kept her fatigued, muscle relaxants to make her muscles uncoordinated, all administered in carefully thought out doses to make them appear a little over the top but not nefarious.

The scenario of her illness is bought into by Moe and others in the tight circle. Anna was a medical mess one more time and HKS and KE appear to be doing everything to get her well. Anna in the meantime isn’t doing much talking about anything important, maybe about the boat which is a safe subject.

Then as the stage has been set, the boat is about to leave the dock, the witnesses have arrived,HKS and KE have left the hotel for excellent reasons, Anna is discovered quite dead beyond hope of resuscitation. There may have been another drug administered that morning which is untraceable. We’ll never know how she conveniently died when she did. All we know is that CH built up in her system over the few days it was administered for sleep. (Why for sleep when she was on 10 sleep inducing medications?) And in combination with 10 central nervous system downers, the chloral hydrate was toxic, she fell into a coma and died.

The last detail of the plan occurred when KE had her tete a tete with Dr. Perper. How susceptible is a freakazoid man like him to the pursuasion of a master mental manipulator, KE? Was he offered a cut of the money? Or something carnal as a roll in the hay? Or like Seidlin, was he offered an agent who could book him on Nancy Grace et al? He ruled the death an accident, not a murder, nor a suicide for the life insurance to pay off. The choice of accident worked all the way around for every party: the Seminole nation, the hotel, the police, the pharmacies, even the baby.

HKS can cash in the policy whenever he wants and use the cash (tax free) to pay for his expensive lawyers who aren’t about to work for nothing. The insurance company will not report the payment of the claim; certainly they are sworn to confidentiality. No one knows anything except HKS and KE. HKS is free to tell any lies about life insurance now. He can declare his parents are supporting him (maybe they were Anna’s beneficiaries!). HKS has a boat and access to the best places in the world for hiding large amounts of money from the US government. The choice of the Bahamas was inspired.

So what will HKS do for the rest of his life now that he’s without Anna and doesn’t have to work? Perhaps his sobs in at the Inquest are those of a man who gained riches but lost his soul. After all, who is he about, but himself?

Such is my scenario as I see it today: the simplest explanation of motive: greed, provoked by rage at being the lapdog of a moody, tempermental, diva for too many years. HKS doesn’t strike me as a man who likes to work hard. Wonder how his days will wind down? Will he continue to scheme and mooch, or will he become a recluse?


3,745 posted on 11/28/2007 12:58:29 AM PST by SundayGardener
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To: SundayGardener

I agree with your view of motive.


3,746 posted on 11/28/2007 4:38:56 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: Rte66; sodpoodle
Maybe justice for Daniel Smith. Maybe the Bahamians will read this thread. Maybe they will realize that not smart to cater to Howie.

PS: What has happened to sodpoodle? I miss her comments.

3,747 posted on 11/28/2007 4:43:23 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: SundayGardener
People are appointed executor without their knowledge EVERYDAY. When the time comes, they have the right to refuse and it passes to the next person, in this case, Ron Rale. If all refuse, the courts will appoint someone.

People are benefactors of insurance policies and don't know it also. It may be true that Howard didn't know about any insurance policies...but his quick answer "NONE" was simply too quick. Most of them carry a clause that if the beneficiary doesn't claim them within 30 days, the ESTATE can make a claim. Insurance policies are NOT part of an estate but that clause lets the policy pass to some benefactor at the least. Regardless, policies can be "hidden" for the time being.

Money and freedom were the motives.

KE's "Queen Bee" statement says it all. Howard not continuing to pursue the baby based on "Anna's Wishes" that Larry not be given the baby says what he wanted out of this...just plain money!!

The Marshall money: It'll never happen.

Larry's life style is no more.

KE is out of business.

And Howard...Well, he'll probably spen years analyzing "the mistake" that will eventually put him behind bars.

3,748 posted on 11/28/2007 5:08:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: apocalypto; sodpoodle

I think she is away.She said she would be gone for 3 weeks.We all miss her.


3,749 posted on 11/28/2007 5:43:27 AM PST by fatima
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To: fatima; sodpoodle
I remember now.

PS: For some reason my computer freezes every time I try to go on TMZ.

3,750 posted on 11/28/2007 8:46:47 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: All
Just remember: Perper said Anna would have lived if she was taken to a hospital BECAUSE THE DRUGS WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTROLLED. That automatically makes KE responsible.

She was doling them out and she was present. Theoretically, she was IN A HOSPITAL...under her attending physician's care.

It's not like KE was prescribing these meds AS A RESULT OF AN OFFICE VISIT where Anna AND/OR HOWARD would have been advised to call if she was having problems.

And if there was no problem, why did KE call...not once but twice...from California to "supposedly" check on Anna?? She never talked to Anna for either of those calls.

3,751 posted on 11/28/2007 9:41:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

More great points!


3,752 posted on 11/28/2007 9:55:44 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: apocalypto
I do these little comments between my binge shopping. I have this thing about favorite things going "out of stock" and no longer being made.

I bought two hair dryers, two coffee pots, two blankets etc...

My son asked me when I'm going to start building the ark. He's a cutie at 42!

3,753 posted on 11/28/2007 10:31:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau
I have had favorite foods go "out of stock" and long cable-knit sweaters. I regret not having stocked up on the sweaters.
3,754 posted on 11/28/2007 10:43:07 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: SweetCaroline

Good idea. Never thought of it. Thanks.


3,755 posted on 11/28/2007 1:07:18 PM PST by lakey (Duncan Hunter '08 for President!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Well, a little bit of a report on The Insider and Inside Edition, on this, what “would have been” Anna’s 40th birthday ...

I missed the first half of The Insider but the only thing in the 2nd half was the stupid answer to yesterday’s stupid “rumor” about ANS’s body having been exhumed. Of course, the answer is “no, it hasn’t been.”

Then they said something about LB and Dannielynn celebrating this day privately at home with family. (With a clip of the shopping spree “3 days ago,” of course.)

Inside Edition just had the same brief statement from Larry, same wording, just as a text graphic on-screen, and then another from HKS.

LOL, Howie allowed as “howie” hoped Anna was celebrating this day with her beloved Daniel and J. Howard Marshall in heaven! Gotta get that Marshall plug in, of course!

Oh, also, I get Access Hollywood a day late, for some reason - even tho we get it twice a day, lol! - so today’s program was really yesterday’s, saying “tomorrow (meaning today) would have been Anna Nicole’s 40th birthday” and Tony Potts is in The Bahamas (mainly because Regis and Kelly are broadcasting all week from the Atlantis resort) to bring us an interview with the woman who found Anna’s lifeless body and whom Anna called “Mommy.”

So, I haven’t had time to look at the other forums/fora to see what Brigitte Nevens’ interview was like, but if I find it, I’ll post. If not, I’ll try to catch it overnight or tomorrow and report.

Bet Virgie had another good cry today.


3,756 posted on 11/28/2007 2:07:31 PM PST by Rte66
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To: SundayGardener

I ran across the following while composing a different topic and thought you would find it interesting:

Apr 04th, ‘07 - “Lilly Ann Sanchez, an attorney for Stern, said that Eroshevich prescribed the chloral hydrate....(but) was APPARENTLY UNAWARE that the chloral hydrate would prove lethal when combined with the numerous other medications that she had prescribed to Smith.”

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=f963f83f-cb99-4d3e-a3c7-f904dad35766

also from official reports:

“4. Statements of “wanting to die” after the death of her son Daniel in September 2006, were absent after mid October 2006.

“5. A near drowning episode in a pool following Daniel’s death, appears to be a result of an accidental drug overdose rather than a suicidal act.

from a separate ET article:

“Though the powerful medication is prescribed relatively rarely, Eroshevich gave Smith a prescription upon visiting her in the Bahamas shortly after the death of her 20-year-old son, Daniel, attorney Lilly Ann Sanchez said...”

“Eroshevich was aware that conventional sleep meds such as Ambien were not effective on Smith, so went with “an older tried and true medication,” Sanchez said.”

“The chloral hydrate indeed was effective and as expected it gave Anna the relief that she needed in those agonizing months after Daniel’s death and allowed her to sleep,” she
said.”

“Stern lawyer Sanchez said the chloral hydrate was prescribed for Smith by her friend and psychiatrist, Dr. Khristine Eroshevich, who also traveled with her to Florida. Sanchez said the drug was prescribed last year after Smith’s son Daniel, then 20, died in the Bahamas of apparent drug-related causes.”

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=bbf93ffc-666d-4d85-81b2-db3693a22e7f

to be noted: the first rx for CH we know of is Jan 2nd, 07 - well after Daniel’s death - in fact, 4 months after ...this would conflict with Perper’s conclusion #4 above....that Eroshevich was ‘unaware’ of drug interactions would lend suspicion as to who was responsible for the scenario described in Perper’s conclusion #5, above.


3,757 posted on 11/29/2007 12:15:47 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

The first blaringly obvious snaffu for KE is her statement to Kapoor that she ‘would administer the drugs herself’. Totally blows out of the water, her statement 5 months later, that Anna did what Anna wanted to do, and nobody gave anna any drugs.

Then of course, we need to contrast Sanchez’s comments about Eroshevich being “unaware” of drug interactions, with ‘reality’.

We have at least three phone calls made by KE/HK to try to obtain the drugs:

1. Aug 25th phonecall by Kapoor refusing to fill the order, who claims to have spoken to both.

2. circa Aug 25th phonecall from Key Pharmacy to KE (HKS?)refusing to fill the order

3. circa Aug 25th phonecall from the addiction/pharmacology expert (called in by Key Pharmacy) to apparently unsucessfully convince HKS/KE that the drug combinations and amounts ordered, were, in essence, an order for a ‘fatal’ outcome.

For KE and/or HKS to claim, in Feb, 07, that they were unaware of drug interactions that three separate phone conversations confirmed were deadly in Aug, ‘06, is probably one of the most laughably invalid claims I’ve seen/heard yet.

“When Kapoor refused to fill the prescriptions, sources say, Eroshevich sent the request directly to Key Pharmacy in North Hollywood, Calif. It was also refused there.”

“Eroshevich was put in touch by phone with an addiction and pharmacology expert at a prestigious local university. Smith’s local pharmacist...put them in touch. The expert told Eroshevich that the medicines and doses she was asking for were inappropriate and dangerous....”He told her she was in way over her head and that Anna Nicole should be hospitalized,” a source who knew about the conversation told me last night.”

“Kapoor was reassured when he first heard from Eroshevich, Smith and Howard K. Stern, that she was not breastfeeding her newborn baby girl.

Nevertheless, Kapoor was apparently horrified when Eroshevich told him, “I need something to knock her out.” And the notion that the baby might be a priority didn’t seem to matter.”

“”Stern told [Kapoor ] Eroshevich was a longtime friend,” a source said. “He said that they hadn’t given Anna anything for pain after her C-section. And Eroshevich said she would be with Anna Nicole 24/7 and that she would administer the drugs herself.”

Kapoor responded that he would not send them”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259841,00.html

Both Eroshevich and Stern attorneys later protested the ‘laundry list’ as ‘confidential’ (Mar 16, ‘07)


3,758 posted on 11/29/2007 12:48:35 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Sacajaweau

i’ve just spent a while! looking for first references to CH publically, by either KE or HKS - the first reference I’ve seen, is around March 16th - but also, curiously found an ‘ambien’ connection.

By Mar 15th, ‘07 - most of the drug discussion was still focused on methadone and antidepressants - around Feb 28th, Nathan Collins came out with the methadone, zanax, rats under the bed interview that lacked any mention of CH iirc

In the ‘third week’ of the autopsy, Perper says he got back some “surprising” tox results showing a fatal dose of CH, (which he later calls, not fatal except in combination with other drugs). In the ‘fifth week’ of the autopsy, KE was called to Perper’s office for a chat.

circa Mar 14(?)th, ‘07 - KE meets with Perper “to help him shape his final assessment”. “It has been almost five weeks since Anna Nicole passed away...”
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=bbf93ffc-666d-4d85-81b2-db3693a22e7f&page=2

Mar 16th, ‘07 - tmz - drug airbill- methadone but no CH
http://www.lwww.tmz.com/2007/03/16/annas-drug-laundry-list/1

Mar 16th, ‘07 - Stern and Eroshevich lawyers challenge discovered airbills/CH fax as ‘confidential’ and ‘stolen’ (although it was later discovered that airbills were on Anna’s computer)

Why was Perper ‘surprised’? ‘what’ surprised him about the CH? was the ch misrepresented to him? was the length of time Anna had been allegedly using CH misrepresented to him? Was he aware that the nannies had been instructed to wake Anna up for her ‘medication’, that it was ‘given’ to her, or that KE allegedly stated to Kapoor in Sep, ‘06 that she intended to administer the drugs ‘herself’? Was he aware of Lilly Sanchez’s comment that KE had tried Ambien, (a substance Welcht identified as having been injested by Daniel) but it was ‘not effective’... (on Anna)??

Is Perper not ready for some hindsight of his own conclusions? Why is Florida (seminole nation?) refusing to reopen the matter of the death of ANS?? Are they waiting for (how much more) probable cause?


3,759 posted on 11/29/2007 2:27:04 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Sacajaweau

re: Jan 6 2006 agreement

to be noted: didn’t Birkhead state that he was ‘called’ to come over to sign (an) agreement pertaining to pregnancy and he was ‘angry’? Didn’t he say the contract was dated jan 3rd?

to be noted: didn’t Anna complain of ‘flu-like symptoms’ after she returned from the Shelleys?

‘agreement’ references - one from the grave and two from babydaddys:

STERN: (during LKL interview) “...most people around her, myself included, have signed confidentiality clauses that we won’t go to the media about her.

And, Larry did that and he actually in his own words has a liquidated damage clause for $10 million. And, you know, I’m surprised that he doesn’t — I’m just very shocked at how he’s handled this under the circumstances.”

ANNA: (during Pat O’Brien’s interview from the Bahamas, “in which Anna says the whole debate with Birkhead should not have gone public”)

“Everyone in my life signs one,” says Anna. “And yet he claims he doesn’t remember signing anything like it. Actually, he signed three of them.”

BIRKHEAD - It’s birkhead’s testimony, in rationalizing why he called GBen to ‘tattle’ was that the agreement he ws asked to sign was relating to a pregnancy.


3,760 posted on 11/29/2007 2:58:14 AM PST by blueplum
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