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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

i bet they would - after all, the Dutch listened to us and got busy in aruba again, the Bahamas listened to the demand for DNA testing in spite of their own laws to the contrary...Calif is the fifth or sixth largest economy in the world and so is also sensitive to tourist dollars. can’t hurt to send an email or two times a few hundred thousand people :)


11,221 posted on 05/15/2007 12:14:28 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: bria
In the will, Anna is listed to have had personal property valued at $10,000 and real property valued at $1.8 million when she died; however, she still had a $1.1 million mortgage.

i'd imagine just her jewelry box would be worth a hellofalot more than 10K and with the money Anna brought in between 2004 and 2006, I'm simply amazed the will is claiming she has no assets to pass on to DL... is LB not going to contest this "inventory" based on 2000 supposed-data??

11,222 posted on 05/15/2007 12:22:05 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: sodpoodle

very well composed sod - thanks for getting the confirmation :)


11,223 posted on 05/15/2007 12:22:49 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: baysider; kcw2007

“Dannielynn’s only asset is her right to inherit from the Estate of her
mother, which is belng administered by this court. Dannielynn has no other
absets.”

what the hay? I thought Dannielynn had a cool 1.7 million from the OK shoot, as well as other proceeds from contracts signed the week of Anna’s funeral??? plus the ‘trust fund’ that HK supposedly set up??? plus the ‘trust fund’ that Milstein is executor of??? so how the hay do they get, ‘no other assets’ out of that?


11,224 posted on 05/15/2007 12:32:16 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum; All
just noticed Amendment 10:

ATTACHMENT 1O All other relatives, including the minors grandparents. Pursuant to Probate Code Section 1511(c)(2), because the petition is for the appointment of a guardian of the estate only..........the court may dispense with the giving of notice to any one or more or all of the relatives. As set forth in the Court Rules of the Los Angeles Superior Court, GUARDIANSHIPS, Section 10.157 APPOINTMENT OF GENERAL GUARDIANS, "a petition for appointment of a guardian of the estate which requests the appointment of the natural parent or parents may be approved ex parte." This petition requests appointnent of the minor's natural father as the guardian of the estate only.

compare that, to the previous page 9, comment #4:

Petitioner Larry E. Btrkhead is the childs natural father and caregiver, and has sole custody of the child, Dannielynn. As the child's father and caregiver, Petitioner is in the best position to protect and safeguard the interests of the chlld as guardian of her [DL's] estate, including her interests in the Estate of her deceased mother.

is this saying two different things?

11,225 posted on 05/15/2007 12:49:24 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

re: Shilllings

INTERNATIONAL GAMING MANAGEMENT INC., Minneapolis, signed a definitive agreement to acquire the 50 percent stake the Schilling Casino Corporation, Cincinnati, holds in the Splash Casino in Tuninca County, Miss., for cash and stock totaling slightly less than $60 million.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE7DC1639F933A05752C1A965958260


11,226 posted on 05/15/2007 1:46:29 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum; All
re: Anna’s will submission to probate - page 39 of 44 (after reading that HK is asking to be appointed executor) and relating to the request for a ‘special administrator’ ....”However, On March 30, 2007, the Ninth Circuit panel stayed action on all the motions ‘pending resolution of (1)the identity and appearance of the necessary parties...and (2) appearance of counsel of such parties...”

does this mean, that HK was in court pursuing the Marshall action as early as March 30th? would the Ninth Court arbitrarily take this action independently??

11,227 posted on 05/15/2007 3:14:12 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum
sorry, forgot to add, page 18 of 44, article 7 & 8 = I noticed that the blocks that should be checked for anna having surviving parents, were not checked?

page 40 asks that the ‘special administrator’ be given permission to ‘maintain’ the studio city house (which means no plans to sell the house is in the future)

on page 42 of 44, Rale is saying that Stern is asking to be appointed Special Administrator (in addition to executor), and that, apparently, Whalen (LB’s attorney) have no objections to this arrangement as confirmed in a telephone conversation of May 10, 07......

also on page 42, it states that ‘currently there exists no one who can act on behalf of the estate’

on page 44, HK says he wants no fees (but he’s obviously wanting to be involved in DL’s life for the next 25-35 years !)

I guess we know now, what LB and HK and Rale have been up to since May 2!!

But, what I don’t understand is, if they are going to present a void will as valid, then DL would specifically be excluded as written out of the will! and Anna’s estate, (what they haven’t hidden) would then go to the estate of Daniel, and, by proxy, Daniel’s father. If they are going to attempt to ‘rewrite’ the will, then why can’t HK also, be ‘rewritten’ OUT ?

Why does LB have no objections to HK being executor??????????? Maybe it’s just me, but if someone was around for the rather ‘odd’ deaths of two of my close relatives, I wouldn’t want that person around my daughter at all, just on ‘jinxed factor’ !! I’ts not like LB and HK are life-long buddies - they’ve only known each other for 2 years, according to both of them, and 90% of that time was, according to both of them, ‘contentious’ to say the least!

link for reference 44pgs

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0514_ans_will_01.pdf

11,228 posted on 05/15/2007 3:47:34 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

I agree with you about the ‘value’ of ANS’s Personal Property. $10,000 seems ludicrous to me! What happened to all of the money from the ET interviews done before she died? I guess her designer dresses and ALL of her jewelry was dispersed to her ‘friends’ before the Will was filed so HKS wouldn’t have to claim those as assets of the Estate! And wasn’t that ‘break-in’ at Horizons convenient? Apparently, EVERYTHING she owned of value was stolen! It’s pretty sad that the watch given to Shane Gibson was worth more money than the Personal Property left in her Estate for her daughter! It just makes me sick, but I knew that’s how it would go down. No deal between Larry and HKS??? Yeah, right!

Also, I noticed that in one of the documents filed with the Will by Ron Rales, that it states that the minor child (Dannielynn) has ZERO assets of her own! Did I miss something? I thought Dannielynn had TWO Trusts set up in her name, one by HKS and one by Larry, both of which SHOULD be valued at over $1,000,000!! I think the document that states that is the Ex-Parte Petition to name Larry Birkhead as Guardian of Dannielynn for the Estate.


11,229 posted on 05/15/2007 4:42:44 AM PDT by kcw2007
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To: blueplum; All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272355,00.html

In a probate petition signed May 7 by Stern, he asked a judge to recognize the document as Smith’s last will and him as its main executor. The petition also names Smith’s 8-month-old daughter, Dannielynn, as her survivor, and Larry Birkhead as the infant’s father.

Birkhead also filed papers Monday to ask a judge to appoint him as guardian of Dannielynn’s estate.

A June 19 hearing was scheduled to hear both petitions.
_______________________________________________________

IMHO This was the outcome we should have anticipated.

MY PREDICTION: HK$ and KE will never be charged with any crimes.

Larry will not permit Virgie to pursue wrongful death lawsuits against HK$ & KE on behalf of DL.

O’Quinn will represent Billy Smith on behalf of Daniel in wrongful death claims against HK$ & KE and a claim of ‘ALIENATION OF AFFECTION’ against the estate of ANS.

Virgie Arthur will support Billy Smith’s effort to bring Daniel’s body back to the USA.

Larry doesn’t give a rip about Anna’s body and will agree(on behalf of DL) to bringing it back to the USA - but force Virgie to pay all expenses.

Larry will only allow Virgie to have 2 supervised visits with DL in California per year.

Larry will never get married. There will be no caring step-mother for DL, just a group of Hollywood weirdos. Larry will propel Dannielynn into a life worse than Anna’s from infancy - plagued by tabloid press, endless, tasteless photos and later, prescription drugs. HK$ will be prominent in both their lives.

When DL is 18 years old, the Marshall estate will offer a settlement of $100M. Under HK$’ influence & control, Larry will settle.

When DL reaches her majority, she will locate Virgie and live in seclusion on a ranch in Texas, taking care of abandoned animals. She will shun her father and the Birkhead family.

Shakespearian jurisprudence!


11,230 posted on 05/15/2007 5:29:58 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

Hamlet

He that hath kill’d my king and whored my mother,
Popp’d in between the election and my hopes,
Thrown out his angle for my proper life,
And with such cozenage—is’t not perfect conscience,
To quit him with this arm? and is’t not to be damn’d,
To let this canker of our nature come
In further evil?


11,231 posted on 05/15/2007 5:44:45 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Lizarde

Hi Liz

“””We were fools to fall for LB in the early weeks!”””

Not really - we wanted to believe he was better than the other evil bastit. The Hollywood tabloid inhabitants are so far out of our ‘life experience’ we did the best we could;)

Larry and Anna were sex partners - Anna probably had ‘romantic’ notions of children and marriage that Larry bought into - based on his ‘solid KY family background’.

Their relationship was dysfunctional at best - sad that a poor innocent child was the result. It’s possible that Billy Wayne Smith was the only real man that Anna ever knew....and he was only 17.

Remember “a 19 year old in a 35 year old body”? - that was an up close and personal opinion (O’Quinn?)that we did not have.

This saga is not going to be “happily ever after’ and it’s time to face the reality that we are not going to witness ‘all’s well that ends well’.

Virgie is paying the full freight on this one. God watch over her and Dannielynn.


11,233 posted on 05/15/2007 6:14:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Lizarde
We were duped by LB. I hope Virgie's lawyers can stop HKS from continuing to profit from ANS. I think Ron Rale and HKS have been in cahoots from the very beginning of HKS's association with ANS. IMO, Ron Rale, HKS, and LB are 3 poor excuses of human beings who have manipulated the courts and everyone else involved to line their own pockets. LB and HKS have lied to the courts and to people who wished Larry well.

What happened to all the jewelry ANS had? Didn't Howard Marshall buy her a huge diamond ring plus a lot of jewelry? Someone needs to investigate what HKS has done with her possessions and the money he made from photo ops that were supposed to go into a trust fund for DL.

11,234 posted on 05/15/2007 6:28:38 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne
IIRC, early on, Trimspa said they were sending Anna $10,000 per month. Where's that account?? Where are all the accounts? Sure would like to see all the recent contracts and how they were written and who benefited if Anna died.

Maybe LE can't catch Howard and KE, but an insurance company and/or good contract lawyer might.

Moving assets just prior to a death is possibly and in this case, probably "fraud" at the least.

Three things that Howard doesn't want to happen: 1. Never wants HIS DNA to be examined (genetic defect?? or sealed case in his history??). 2. His personal assets/acoounts examined. 3. The existance of insurance policies.

Howard is a liar, a thief and a m......... This is his life game and he loves it. He just likes the controversy. It's a passion.

He must have been a brutal kid to deal with...The one who would hit someone and LIE and said "he started it", play footsies with the teachers to take his side AND WIN every stinking battle that he "set up".

And then there's the good sister, Bon Bon, "the accountant" who turned out to be a "sex-candy pushing idiot". Just a normal family!!!

11,235 posted on 05/15/2007 6:55:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: sodpoodle
Good girl Sod!! Investigations can go on and on. The most that will happen is that she will lose her license and get a fine. She can stop the whole process by simply handing in her license or not re-register.

IMHO, The only way to nab her is to reopen the Florida case. The "Anna did not want to go to the hospital" doesn't fly if Anna didn't know what the hell was happening to her body because of the meds.

KE had a DUTY and Perper said that ANNA WOULD LIKELY HAVE LIVED IF SHE HAD GONE TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE CONTROLLED HER MEDS.

11,236 posted on 05/15/2007 7:02:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

Grrrr. That’s what I have to say about all this. Just grrrrr.

I don’t know where to begin - lol, I feel like that FReeper who used to be around with the nickname “TypesWithFists.”

What used to be, to me, a humorous jab at someone’s typing skills now takes on a whole new meaning when I’m trying to express my outrage at HKS and now at LB, too. This latest turn of events with the two petitions just infuriates me.

It is just the continuation of that venomous eulogy of Howie’s and his “us against the world” outlook concerning ANS and himself. There’s a reason people were against you two grifters, Howie.

Before I get into particulars and also try to calm myself down enough to reply to posters from the past 3-4 days, I just want to say that I’ve about decided Howard K. Stern has Munchausen by Proxy syndrome.


11,237 posted on 05/15/2007 9:25:27 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: PeskyOne
<> I agree about Larry's lack of maturity and poor judgement ( to say the very least !)in teaming up with dirty dealing , duffle bag Howie ... It seems to me that Virgie's attorney nailed it when he described Larry as a 19- year-old in a 34- year- old body. Is this the real Larry we are seeing now? Was the other Larry,a phoney..... the one who hugged Virgie at the Florida hearing, the Larry whose image was fashioned by his former attorney, Deb Oprie, the specialist in public relations? Where's the compassion for a woman who lost her daughter and her grandson ? Anna made some cruel comments about Virgie on that infamous tape , but she also lied and made cruel and untruthful comments about Larry...or has he forgotten ? When I think about his underhanded deal with Stern, I'm reminded that no one forced Larry to join the Howard and Anna cruise on their ship of grifters , gays and pill poppers. Wasn't he was a groupie, too, no different than the others ? Anna was his meal ticket beginning the day he agreed to be her exclusive photographer. Am I being too hard on him? If so, it's only because I feel like I was conned. Virgie wasn't, though, was she ? Well, I got that off my chest !
11,238 posted on 05/15/2007 9:42:36 AM PDT by baysider
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To: Sacajaweau

“All the accounts” we’re wondering about are offshore somewhere - a somewhere that only HKS knows.

Everything paid to ANS went into “a” corporation, whether it was Hot Smoochie Lips or Crackers Inc. or heaven-only-knows what else HKS set up. Millions and millions of dollars have been skimmed off and stashed somewhere.

As it is, right off the bat, I am puzzled about the statement of ownership of the Studio City house - when it was put into the Hot Smoochie Lips corporate name and that corporation has been sold to Adrian Keith Skane.

Unless someone files suit (*cough**O’Q**cough*), or maybe if one of Leroy’s amusements is pressed into trial, we’ll never know what happened to all that money, because the corporations and partnerships are private and any skimmed funds are most likely in numbered accounts.

Then there are the trusts, which are probably non-existent, with the possible exception of the Dannielynn fund which OK! Magazine stated publicly it had paid the photo/interview fees into.

The whole point of the “0” value estate and the weirdly worded will is to avoid paying any taxes at all. HKS is emulating JHMII, still trying to get on the good side of the old man in whatever afterlife in which he dwells, in hopes that the multi-millions will just fall into his lap.


11,239 posted on 05/15/2007 9:54:10 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: All

That will may very well be declared invalid and thrown out of court. At the very least, a handwriting expert needs to examine Anna Nicole’s signature to determine if it was forged. Howie admitted in Seidlin’s court that he signed checks in Anna’s name even though he had no bank authorization to do so. How could a drugged up Anna read it and sign it in her condition, anyway ?


11,240 posted on 05/15/2007 10:08:33 AM PDT by baysider
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