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2005 ALCS: White Sox vs. Angels

Posted on 10/11/2005 7:00:45 AM PDT by MrJingles

***VS.***

Results of 2005 Season Series:

Date---Winner---Score---WinningPitcher/LosingPitcher

Mon, 5/23---Angels------4-0 Santana/Garland

Tue, 5/24---White Sox---2-1----Marte/Yan

Wed, 5/25---White Sox---4-2----Garcia/Washburn

Thu, 5/26---Angels------3-2----Lackey/Contreras

Mon, 5/30---White Sox---5-4----Politte/Shields

Tue, 5/31---White Sox---5-4----Politte/Donnelly

Wed, 6/1----Angels------10-7---Byrd/Walker

Fri, 9/9----Angels------6-5----Donnelly/Hermanson

Sat, 9/10---Angels------10-5---Colon/Garland

Sun, 9/11---Angels------6-1----Lackey/Hernandez


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: alcs; anaheim; angels; baseball; california; chicago; illinois; mlb; whitesox
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Wonder if this thread will be pulled like all the others. Wierd night hits the mods, too. Full moon?


101 posted on 10/12/2005 8:18:17 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: GraniteStateConservative

what a gomer call....

but, the Angels were flat, and Scioscia knows it.

I would petition to replace the crew before the Friday game.


102 posted on 10/12/2005 8:18:36 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Bad umpiring caused a bad situation.

We don't know who would have won if that had not occurred, but the Angeles were unfairly penalized.
103 posted on 10/12/2005 8:19:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The crew won't be replaced, but the AL Director of Umpires will likely have a conference call or an on-site.

As to umpire's calls, I always remember what Tom Landry used to say when the Cowboys lost on a close call by an official:

"If an official's call determines the outcome of a game, you didn't play hard enough."

104 posted on 10/12/2005 8:20:47 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I have no clue why the robbed one was pulled. It wasn't even slinging mud yet.


105 posted on 10/12/2005 8:22:00 PM PDT by lainie
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To: BurbankKarl

Sciocia is a real class act. I don't want to know what a lesser manager would have said at the post-game.


106 posted on 10/12/2005 8:22:32 PM PDT by MrJingles (I need more cowbell!)
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To: lainie

I wonder if it is the same mod who works Sunday nights. That one is quite the crank when it comes to sports.


107 posted on 10/12/2005 8:23:30 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: sinkspur

Landry flew B-17s or B-29s, as I recall. That's what made him such a cool customer in the NFL.


108 posted on 10/12/2005 8:23:57 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: MrJingles
Sciocia is a real class act. I don't want to know what a lesser manager would have said at the post-game.

A manager should have said "We didn't score enough runs to make that call a non-factor."

109 posted on 10/12/2005 8:24:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: A CA Guy
The bottom line on this was something I always tell my kids when coaching any sport, especially baseball and football -- ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS play the play through completely. Had the Angel catcher just hesitated one second he would have heard the call as Pierzynski clearly did, but instead he instantly rolled the ball away and headed off the field.

The ump called the strike and then immediately pointed toward first, and then called the strike again. He apparently also said something because pierzynski started to head across the plate and then immediately spun around and ran toward first. Unfortunately for the Angels the catcher had already exited stage right.

On the replay the ball clearly bounces before entering the webbing of the mitt. However there is no telltale puff of dirt leading me to assume he got the mitt under it.

110 posted on 10/12/2005 8:24:38 PM PDT by commish ((Montgomery, AL) Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: sinkspur
"If an official's call determines the outcome of a game, you didn't play hard enough."

That's bullsh!t in a 1-1 game. That's an excellent game on both sides of the ball. No one didn't play hard enough tonight. The Angels were robbed. I'm not even an Angels fan, but I'm as pissed about this as I would if it had happened to the Red Sox-- which it did in the 2004 ALCS, but the bad calls were overturned.

111 posted on 10/12/2005 8:24:40 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: MrJingles
Regarding your tagline...


112 posted on 10/12/2005 8:25:12 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: A CA Guy

Hey whiny West Coast fans

na na na na

na na na na

hey hey

goodbye

One call should not decide a game... Waaaa waaa what about the missed calls against Contreras last night???. Those three missed calls and no 2 run inning and it is 2-0 for beloved sox. waaa waaa waaaa typical west coast whiny babies


113 posted on 10/12/2005 8:25:17 PM PDT by slapshot ("USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away")
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To: GraniteStateConservative; TheRedSoxWinThePennant; misterrob; ElTianti; ken5050; doug from upland; ..
ChiSox, you guys won on a BULLSH!T call. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

I totally agree... I'm just incredulous watching this coverage (now on ESPN). I cannot believe this result stands.

I was kind of neutral in this ALCS, but now I am definitely rooting for the Angels - helps that former Red Sox Orlando Cabrera is part of the team. F*** the White Sox (and "Jurassic" Carl Everett)!

114 posted on 10/12/2005 8:25:41 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: MrJingles

I'd be uncontrollably livid.


115 posted on 10/12/2005 8:25:52 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: commish

And following your example, Pierzynski played completely through the play.


116 posted on 10/12/2005 8:27:17 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: commish
Had the Angel catcher just hesitated one second he would have heard the call as Pierzynski clearly did, but instead he instantly rolled the ball away and headed off the field.

The ump rung him up. The play is dead. The inning is over. Period.

117 posted on 10/12/2005 8:27:40 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: slapshot

that take sucks.


118 posted on 10/12/2005 8:28:02 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Could be. I've had it come up on the Sunday thread a few times, too.


119 posted on 10/12/2005 8:28:34 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Petronski
Landry flew B-17s or B-29s, as I recall. That's what made him such a cool customer in the NFL.

Was he ever cool! Unflappable, always kept things in perspective, and always in charge.

Landry was a man of great faith. He was a driving force in starting the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

He likely could have won more championships, but he didn't tolerate drug use (contrary to what Pete Gent says). He dumped Hollywood Henderson when "Hollywood" was at his peak, but he was snorting coke in the locker room!

It was time for Landry to go, but he would never have quit. Jimmy Johnson made Cowboy fans forget the way Landry was fired with those back-to-back Super Bowls in 1993-94.

120 posted on 10/12/2005 8:29:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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