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Layers of clustered apartments hide artifacts of ancient urban life
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Monday, April 18, 2005 | David Perlman

Posted on 04/20/2005 9:26:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

But because of the spectacular female clay figures that the archaeologists have found in the excavated layers over the years, Çatalhöyük has become a draw for modern believers who hold to the idea that the neolithic people were ruled by a matriarchy whose central figure was a mother goddess... But to Ian Hodder of Stanford and Ruth Tringham of Berkeley, who will lead the expedition's 11th season at Çatalhöyük this summer, the evidence questions the notion of a mother goddess and a matriarchal society... Mellaart's mother goddess was found in a grain bin, and the Hodder team's 3-inch figurine was found amid trash left in a grave, suggesting they were something less than figures of worship or power.

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1 posted on 04/20/2005 9:27:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
The article notes that Mellaart was tossed from the site and from Turkey over allegations of "involvement in a still-unsolved case of lost or stolen treasure". The site remained unexcavated for years thereafter.
"I find it difficult to link all the figures and the wall paintings with the idea of a goddess," Hodder said. "I see them more as depictions of daily life, and our evidence so far doesn't suggest anything else."

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2 posted on 04/20/2005 9:31:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Got this off the hard drive, but it's still online:
New Dig at 9,000-Year-Old City Is Changing Views on Ancient Life
by Edward Demarco
November 11, 1997
NY Times
"Mellaart saw Catalhoyuk as divided into shrines and nonshrines," said the project director, Ian Hodder, a Cambridge University archaeologist, as he paused near houses under excavation. "He saw shrines and an elite priestly group living in one area. Mellaart looked at the site through the eyes of Mesopotamia and later urban societies and viewed it as politically complex. We're seeing it as large but politically simple without a class or elite with specialized functions."
Apparently the site owed its economic life and existence to the obsidian trade.

3 posted on 04/20/2005 9:35:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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This mural from the site has been interpreted as depicting the volcanic eruption which buried a neighboring town. If that interpretation is correct, it is the oldest known news story, and antedates Pliny the Younger's ad hoc account of the 79 AD eruption of Vesuvius by more than five thousand years. Try a Google search for other images of it.

Catal Huyuk: The Temple City of Prehistoric Anatolia
Catal Huyuk:
The Temple City of Prehistoric Anatolia

by Wllliam Carl Eichman
Gnosis Magazine Spring 1990
The oldest layer of Catal Huyuk yet excavated (virgin soil has not been reached) is reliably carbon dated to 6,500 B.C,, and reveals a thriving, completely developed and planned, city... Twelve successive layers of building, representing distinct stages of the city and reflecting different eras of its history, have been found. The top layers of the mound, containing the most recent buildings, are dated at 5,600 B.C... At a time when a "big" town like early Hacilar had ten houses, Catal Huyuk was a multiracial city of 6,000 people.
By "multiracial" the author means, "there aren't enough remains to make any such determination; no genetic studies have been made; that race is actually nonexistent; and I'm just spouting propaganda."
4 posted on 04/20/2005 9:44:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: SunkenCiv

One could look at Italy, the history and structures, and imagine that it is politically complex.
But if you ask an Italian about the government affairs today, he will say, "No one cares."
Rather simple for the majority of the population.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 9:48:19 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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Go easy on the bandwidth of this, it's from the Wayback Machine. Sorry for the goofed up characters in the second town name.
Turkish Wall Painting "Is First News Story"
by Alsling Irwin
July 28, 1997
Daily Telegraph
British researchers working in Turkey have matched the erupting volcano in an ancient wall painting, discovered in the oldest known town, with a twin-peaked mountain 100 miles away. The wall painting depicts the plan of an unknown town with the oddly shaped volcano erupting behind it... Now Turkish, French and British geologists believe they have found the volcano. Hasan Dag, 100 miles from Çatalhöyük. Below the volcano is the ancient site of Afl‡kl‡ Höyük, thought to be a precursor of Çatalhöyük.

6 posted on 04/20/2005 9:55:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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A Weaver's View of the Çatal Hüyük Controversy
by Marla Mallett
August/September 1990
In was enlightening to read Mellaart's excavation reports from the 1960s [2] as well as other early writings. Contradictions between those texts and the current work indicated more than a runaway kilim theory and an overly fertile imagination at work. Technical and stylistic problems now combined with incriminating disclosures to reveal what seemed to be careless, poorly conceived fabrications -- possibly a deliberate hoax.

7 posted on 04/20/2005 10:03:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: SunkenCiv

very interesting "landscape painting".


8 posted on 04/20/2005 10:59:21 AM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: ken21

Yeah, one of the online versions of the photo calls it a "volcano goddess", meaning that the alleged moderns have goddesses on the brain.

The "volcano" looks very much like a stretched out animal hide to me.


9 posted on 04/20/2005 11:53:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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The new Archaeology Odyssey has a couple of articles about Catal Huyuk, Discovering Catalhoyuk and Excavating Catalhoyuk; alas, only excerpts are online. Everyone with an interest in archaeology and history should subscribe anyway...
10 posted on 04/26/2005 10:04:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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dorak affair:
Google

11 posted on 06/01/2005 10:55:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Humanity’s Greatest Calamity: An Ancient Flood Changed the Course of Civilization
Source: discovering archeology com
Published: 15 August 2001 Author: BRIAN FAGAN
Posted on 08/31/2001 19:20:50 PDT by aculeus
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b90460260c1.htm

New Discoveries In Syria Confirm Theory On Spread Of Early Civilization
Newswise.com | 6-2-2002 | Carrie Golus
Posted on 06/03/2002 1:42:03 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/694010/posts

Oldest Swords Found In Turkey (3,300BC)
Discovery Channel | 3-25-2003 | Rossella Lorenzi
Posted on 03/30/2003 4:37:06 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880260/posts


12 posted on 06/01/2005 10:58:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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Discovering Catalhoyuk
by Michael Balter
http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_AO/bswbao0803f1.html

"While searching for the origins of the mysterious Sea Peoples, the flamboyant British archaeologist James Mellaart found the world’s largest Stone Age city."

(has a nice sidebar regarding the "Dorak Affair", an event forty years ago that caused the gov't of Turkey to ban Mellaart from excavating any site in that country.


13 posted on 06/01/2005 11:04:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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14 posted on 12/31/2007 7:44:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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