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I need help with marriage troubles (vanity)

Posted on 12/20/2004 6:41:03 AM PST by kerouacbal

I am 26 years old and have been married for 2 years. I am having trouble growing up and I am driving my wife nuts. It has gotten to the point that my wife talks about divorce almost every day. I want to work this out more then I every wanted anything but I can't seem to do it or do it quick enough. I can't seem to remember consistently to do every day things like take out the garbage make sure all the doors are locked and the heat is off at night (there is a lot more but won't get into it all). I am posting this here to try to get some advise on how to help my self grow up and start to take care of my wife and son better like a husband should. My parents are dead and I don't have a close family member or friend to get advise from. Could someone please help me.


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To: corbe

"2 young Love Birds are still fighting over that 1%."

Looks like 2% to me.

But I agree with you. All that stuff should have been worked out before they got married, however, in those love spats.


421 posted on 12/20/2004 1:10:54 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: Laura Earl

: )


422 posted on 12/20/2004 1:15:32 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Boycott Boycotts Warrior. If you aint buying call me!)
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To: Laura Earl

Always.


423 posted on 12/20/2004 1:15:58 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Boycott Boycotts Warrior. If you aint buying call me!)
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To: Max Combined
"...with her low tolerance for human foibles, it seems like drinking too much would have made it on the list, if it were really a problem.

The things he's forgetting are not the issue, it's the forgetting that suggests the drinking. Problem drinkers rarely recognize their problem and would generally be reluctant to lead with that as a problem. As I said in my original response, I am making an assumption but alcohol rarely helps a marriage.

424 posted on 12/20/2004 1:16:09 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: kerouacbal
Christian Marriage Counseling! My wife and I found a precept class on marriage shortly after getting married, we also now attend a small group with other young married couples..

Its a great help..

425 posted on 12/20/2004 1:18:30 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: speed_addiction; Laura Earl

Laura Earl doesn't roar! That would give me too much warning. She just attacks.


426 posted on 12/20/2004 1:18:45 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Boycott Boycotts Warrior. If you aint buying call me!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

And don't forget it. ;)


427 posted on 12/20/2004 1:21:04 PM PST by Laura Earl (1/2way290)
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To: JoeV1
Ahh, the subtle approach to marital problem solving. I like it.

If you had spent anytime at all married to the bitch I was married to, you would agree with my assesment of the situation.
She was unfaithful, manipulative, bitter and absolutely terriffic in bed (well, maybe this was not one of the bad things). But she had no love for me, never did. She had numerous affairs, she went on a camping trip with a lover when I was healing from being shot in the face in the Rangers.
In the end, she and her lover tried to kill me. That was pretty much the last straw.
428 posted on 12/20/2004 1:22:55 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Max Combined
"...your advice is not the best available."

Perhaps not (although I'm not sure how you could possibly know, considering the whole of your content on this thread), but it at least goes to his desire to mature. You are advising him to do things that go against the very thing he wants to accomplish, and to not do things that would encourage the maturation process. Yet his desire to accomplish this is by any standard good and fine and noble.

Your advice to him can be summed up in three words: "Be a jerk." He won't make it that way. If my advice isn't the best available, please offer something besides contradiction.

429 posted on 12/20/2004 1:31:24 PM PST by Chunga
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To: speed_addiction

You need to write a book.


430 posted on 12/20/2004 1:33:27 PM PST by chapin2500
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To: Chunga
Again, the man has admitted that he hasn't grown up

Since when is meeting your wife's demands the definition of growing up?

If this guy is lacking maturity, it's in that he hasn't yet learned women are not "right" by definition, and he'll never learn that by listening to women or men who are "whipped" by them.

431 posted on 12/20/2004 1:36:52 PM PST by papertyger
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To: kerouacbal

Can she do anything for herself?


432 posted on 12/20/2004 1:38:26 PM PST by steve8714 (Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all freepers.)
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To: Laura Earl

No m'am. I won't forget.


433 posted on 12/20/2004 1:40:29 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Boycott Boycotts Warrior. If you aint buying call me!)
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To: N3WBI3

Christian marriage counselling sounds real good... trouble is, a man can't lead a woman that refuses to follow. American women only follow if you're leading to where they wanted to go in the first place.


434 posted on 12/20/2004 1:45:41 PM PST by papertyger
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To: af_vet_1981

As in, "I need my space."?


435 posted on 12/20/2004 1:46:04 PM PST by steve8714 (Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all freepers.)
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To: Max Combined

You are correct. My bad. So the situation is that there is an existing and not a potential child, and the mother is afraid every day that the father is not reliable.


436 posted on 12/20/2004 1:48:10 PM PST by Remole
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To: af_vet_1981

Couldn't agree more...ADD is an invented syndrome to market stimulant and psychtropic drugs.


437 posted on 12/20/2004 1:49:39 PM PST by steve8714 (Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all freepers.)
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To: aShepard

I have to agree with this, if you think it applies to your situation. My husband and I had a child within a year of marriage, and it's tough (though I wouldn't change what happened for the world). I thought I would go stir crazy, until a few months ago when hubby started watching the kids for two hours every saturday morning so I could get out and be free. After a month or two, I didn't even take advantage of it much, anymore. It was enough to know I could have it if I wanted it.

Also, a little spending account that she's not allowed to use on you, or the kids, or groceries could go a long way (only if your financially healthy, of course).


438 posted on 12/20/2004 1:52:17 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: papertyger
He hasn't said that his wife is making unreasonable demands. He has asked us to believe that he is in the wrong and that he is constantly screwing up. Why should we here assume that his wife is being demanding? Why should we assume that he only sees himself in the wrong because his wife is being manipulative? Why shouldn't we take this man at his word?

I'll go further: Why assume that men who don't take the cynical view, who do take this man at his word, are "whipped" by women? They are merely addressing the content of his posts, which are, in short, "I am not mature and I am constantly screwing the pooch; I had no direction growing up; my wife has been patient, but I can't do anything right. I need help."

Some here would have this man believe that he is in the wrong by asking for help. I take the view that if he truly wants help and wants change to occur he will have to change himself, because he can change no-one else. In order to overcome the problems he claims to have (not the faults that many are projecting), he will need to acquire self-discipline. I have given him some tips on how to acquire it. If you don't like them, fine with me...perhaps he can learn self-discipline better from you than from me.

Of course, if you don't agree that he needs self-discipline, you either haven't read, or disagree with, the only valid conclusions that can be drawn from the face value of his posts. And that wouldn't surprise me in the least, considering the responses I've had here today.

439 posted on 12/20/2004 2:00:35 PM PST by Chunga
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To: Remole

"the mother is afraid every day that the father is not reliable."

Based on the fact that he sometimes forgets to take out the garbage and does not always turn down the heat at night.


440 posted on 12/20/2004 2:00:43 PM PST by Max Combined
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