Is The End Of The World As WeKnow It Right Around The Corner? (Lunacy or The Coverup Of History?)

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WARNING:  If talk about "End Time Events" disturbs you in any way, please, and we do mean, please leave this article. It is without doubt, the most disturbing end time scenario we have ever seen, mainly because of the references, articles and coincidences that the writer points to. We are not admitting the information revealed is accurate, but it does sound like events described in Revelation, in fact, the person who is posting the messages makes references to this fact and they are not a Christian.  With that said, here is the article: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Bush Country, Like I asked you to do in the last article I sent you, please keep my name off this article as individuals who have leaked this information have had their lives threatened. The information below is from the same individual who was posting comments on the forum I was following a couple of weeks ago that I sent to you.  Problem is, it seems as though the Government or someone up high found out about that thread because they started messing with it, so the individual (who is called Aussie Bloke) went to another forum to continue it, this is that continuation.  It starts off talking about the same things as the other thread poster was doing: a dust cloud that is coming, meteor/comets that will be hitting the earth, and gives a time frame for it. However, he does reveal more about what is coming.  When I saw this, I began to follow the thread and now feel as though it is time to send to you.  I will send a third one after this individual gets back from saying goodbye to his family.  I have slanted  his comments, along with a few other individuals that made comments on the bulletin board, although I mainly provide the Australian guys comments because this is where the info was coming from.  Hold your hats, it may just be a very scary summer! Aussie Bloke 4/29/2004 1:12 am EDT As I keep saying...LOOK TO THE SKIES! It would seem some people out there are doing this...keep it up...but I must warn you all of something. The last time I told EXACTLY what I know the forum I posted it on was shut down and another one was so screwed up with virus freaks that it lost the plot. I cannot say which forum it was because if I do they will be onto me and shut this one down too...and that would be a real shame. This forum so far has been one of the best. Lots of different people with different opinions and some of you actually have brains and functioning eyeballs. Hopefully some of you have a decent set of lenses and a good dose of common sense. DON'T believe the crap the government keeps throwing at you. I used to work for them...I know how they operate. Just keep on looking...its there...nasty....real...and imminent. Its only a matter of time now. I will post a SWAN pic of the three comets (the third one is an anomaly - not certain what it is). Here’s the link to the pic: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/latest_swan _ARecl_sm.gif Aussie Bloke 5/9/2004 1:12 am EDT PEOPLE....there IS IN FACT some very SERIOUS and DEVASTATING objects coming our way RIGHT NOW!!!!! RUN and try to survive. It will be the biggest light show in the history of the world. Anonymous Coward 5/9/2004 1:19 am EDT To Aussie Bloke, How do you know for sure that an object is coming our way? Did you see it with your own eyes? I am not saying you are lying or you are loony I am just asking simple question because no one can say for sure when exactly if at all those comets will hit us. Unless of course you saw or know something that we don't Thank you. Ausie Bloke 5/9/2004 4:22 am EDT OK....seems I have got at least SOME peoples attention. Some people want to know what I have seen and observed...very well then. BUT...before I go on I will say one thing about all this doom and gloom stuff. I am over 60 years old. I have seen it come and seen it go. I watched the computer age being born. I have seen and heard every type of doom and gloom scenario you could imagine. All my life I have watched the skies and believe me...I know when something is NOT right with things. I have observed over the years a steady increase of the knowledge that something aint right with the universe in general. For years now...longer than most of you have been alive...I have seen the indoctrination of doom spread across mankind's face. People are not what they used to be and things have changed a lot. AND NOW....after many years of planning and indoctrination...what they were subconsciously preparing us for is at our very doorstep. You see...I cannot blame the powers that be for covering up what they know...and they know a hell of a lot....I used to work for them. Crying wolf always works. Spread "false" alarm and when nothing happens...then everyone sleeps once more...only they will be much harder to awaken NEXT time. NOW....the wolf is here...and we all sleep. LOOK this way....LOOK that way....LOOK everywhere but where we WANT you to look. AND THEN!!! someone sees it...and thinks ITS REAL!!!!....WHAT DO I DO?" so they run off to warn...and get laughed at. I have seen this many many times. Like now....the same thing. SO...that being said I will tell you what is coming toward us. I will not give a date because it is variable so that would be pointless. But I will give you a definite timeframe to either prepare...or die....your choice. The object coming at us...or OBJECTS as such...are in fact similar (but not the same) as what you have already been told about. It IS a comet...of sorts...surrounded by a hell of a lot of debris. There will be several impacts of differing sizes spread over the globe. The bombardment will last a week or so at most. The largest fragment will rock the planet and the smaller ones will wipe out a city here or there depending on where they come down. There WILL be quakes and firestorms and major flooding of coastlines due to ocean impacts. Yes...it will be much like the movie "deep impact" only worse. The good news is....we will NOT be destroyed by a "Big One" as such. There will be no "America saves the day" scenario here either. This is reality...not a movie. Mankind will survive...but at great cost. On the other hand...it MAY...and I mean MAY miss us...but it wont be by much. But so far it does not look too good...and time is fast running out for a last minute miracle...but one can only hope. The timeframe...yes...I know you were saying "well...what about the TIME?"...so here it is. WITHIN SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS we will either all be dead or wish we were...OR....hopefully...we will be saying "THANK GOD IT JUST MISSED US". But personally from my observations and what I know from days past...it WONT MISS...that is....the fragments wont miss. The comet may miss...the fragments WONT...PERIOD. Prepare yourself for the biggest light show you have ever seen. I am not into religion as such but I have been around long enough to at least give SOME credence to the ancient writings. I too have read revelation and other prophecies...and this coming event fits in rather well with the bit in revelation about the stars falling from heaven and the sky rolling up like a scroll and the moon turning to blood (by the way. this is EXACTLY what will happen while passing through the debris cloud).....read it yourself...you have eyes. Oh yes....one little interesting fact I forgot to mention here. 25 years ago I was at an astronomer’s convention in Canberra and we were discussing the possible effects of the debris cloud of the crab nebula passing through our solar system in 2000 to 2005. I wonder if this may have something to do with all the "stories" and such about nibiru and other similar stuff?? Something to ponder. And by the way....don’t go expecting me to give technical details and other rubbish like that. I am only talking to astronomers and scientists here. THEY can look and thus confirm what I am saying. THEN they can tell you what they see...IF indeed they look in the right direction with the right lenses....and most probably get laughed at for their trouble. You see...I am sick to death of having to explain myself and I have become rather impatient over the years with ignorant know it alls who THINK they have it all worked out. 25 years ago we wondered what to tell people about the approaching debris cloud...among other things....and we just could not answer the question. Who knows...perhaps we were wrong on our calculations...but personally I pray we are NOT. I would rather the world was woken up by a natural disaster than a nuclear one....at least you can rebuild after meteors...but you cannot rebuild after radiation...at least not for a long long time. Aussie Bloke 5/9/2004 8:59 pm EDT Re: 16 April 2004 - VOL #3 OK then.....got some stuff stirred up. I thought that bit about the crab nebula would get the debunkers to identify themselves. It worked well. Just goes to show you how easily people are led in one direction or another. Serious astronomers know which debris cloud I am talking about and now I know we have some here. GREAT....now I can talk freely. Yes indeed...there IS a debris cloud passing through our solar system. They have attached all sorts of names to it...photon belt....nibiru.....and what have you. BUT the debris cloud will not do any damage as such...what it HAS done is stirred up the oort cloud in a big way. Blame nibiru as much as you want....it is a good whipping post after all and it DOES cause controversy which keeps EVERYONE arguing while the REAL wolf approaches. Good tactic of the PTB I must say. I have watched it all unfold like clockwork and the plan is working perfectly. Everyone is at each others throat...as planned...and STILL none of you are correct simply because the PTB has misdirected you ALL. Ever seen that movie "Swordfish"? prime example of misdirection tactics. Throw some wars...fake some terror....blow up a couple of buildings....and generally KEEP everyone from seriously watching the skies. It funny how they jumped up and down about Hale Bopp....BIG media event...or non event. AND NOW and even BIGGER show is here and its all hush hush. Those who try to make it public are ridiculed and laughed at. Soho always going down...observatories around the world "under repair"...oh how convenient. We knew all along what would happen and to be honest its for the best. Imagine six billion people KNOWING they may die going NUTS. It HAD to be concealed to the very last moment. And now the truth is there in the skies and on the net...but hey...who takes these nut case doom and gloomers seriously....which is all well and good. Throw in a fake wolf here...another there...and what do you get? A soundly sleeping populace snoring quietly through the coming doom. EXACTLY as PLANNED. Its for our own good. Live it up and have a lot of fun while you can. P.S. About the debris cloud....can you think of a better explanation as to why the sun is almost a white star, explain the massive increase in meteorites and comets lately or why the sky (even on clear days) seems fuzzy? www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2566165 Can YOU think of a better way to keep the public uninformed than what I have described? Tell me...if YOU were the PTB what would YOU do....would you TELL everyone of their impending deaths...OR if you knew about it would YOU put a plan into action to keep everyone asleep. Comets approaching fast and no one is looking for it...a job well done. Aussie Bloke 5/10/2004 6:15 pm EDT Hmmmm....seems you have done some research...and yes...your hypothesis is reasonable and would also explain a few anomalies of late....well done I must say. Its time to wake up people...we have few weeks left. The movie "day after tomorrow" is nothing compared to what will REALLY happen. They are still on the job psychologically preparing us all for what is to come. AND NO!! I will NOT tell you EXACTLY until the LAST MOMENT what is coming....do your own homework as some of you have. You are very close...and getting warmer. Look up "SUPER NOVA" AND 2-0 bc. that is one clue and only a part of the puzzle. At the time we discovered these things we could only hypothesize...now we know our original hypothesis was indeed correct. The oort cloud has been stirred. Soon the sun will vanish behind a cloud of thick dust...and all hell will reign on earth as we receive impact after impact. Why do you think they invented a telescope that can look through DUST!! HMMMMM??? they will NEED it very shortly to plot the course of incoming objects so as to try to blast them out of the sky. WHY do you thing they have re instated the cold war weapons of missile defense??? TO SHOOT THE BLOODY THINGS DOWN!!!! Boys and girls...its time to get real here. We are all in very VERY close range of our doom...and STILL some of you are to brainwashed by all the distractions to see what is REALLY going on. Well....so called debunkers....you DO do a good job of keeping the controversy going. Wont matter anymore anyway. You are all in fact already DEAD and are just waiting for the reality of it to sink in. YOU will walk blindly to your deaths laughing all the way...when SUDDENLY the sun will darken...and the moon WILL turn the color of blood...and death will rain down in the form of nickel-iron chunks of doom moving VERY VERY FAST!!! and you will have only a week or so to realize your death is imminent...and you will remember my words and the warnings of others...and think to yourself:- THEY WERE RIGHT!!!! Aussie Bloke 5/10/2004 7:10 pm EDT Well Well Well.....I do have a somewhat "in your face" approach don’t I? The reason being is simply because I have been trying to warn people for years and years...explaining myself again and again. Do you have ANY idea how bloody frustrating this can get? Another thing...about 2012...what is about to happen now is only the BEGINNING of our sorrows. Mankind WILL survive to a large extent the original bombardment...BUT...the fighting that will break out later over the few resources left will do most of the damage. One half of the population will die more or less instantly...the rest will be bled off over the next few years...until 2012. I am NOT going to tell you what is coming THEN because by then no one will care and even if I told you now it wont matter. Maybe its natures way of deleting the virus called HUMANITY. Aussie Bloke 5/10/2004 9:02 pm EDT Very Good ladies and gentlemen. Seems you have done some digging. Getting close...and then BAM!! the site shuts down because certain people hit the nail RIGHT ON THE HEAD....be careful what you reveal. This site is watched VERY closely. Every ten seconds or so a hack attempt is made on my pc....explain THAT. Seems we are getting to the nitty gritty...they are VERY interested in stopping me. Too many clues. I thought they would not bother...but hey...maybe I was wrong. If it was going to happen next week they wouldn’t care but we still have a few weeks left. OK...time for some more clues. This will piss them of BIGTIME...LOL Key words:- Dust cloud...super nova...centre...interference...cosmic storm...oort cloud....debris...shockwave....1978-79....ETA.2000 to 20005.....gamma.....influx of comets.....NEO.....solar max extended....white dwarf.....distract.....polar drift.....anomalies....unpredictable. Have fun...only weeks left to solve the puzzle...and when you do...TELL ALL...I WILL...for then it will be too late to shut me or this site down. Aussie Bloke 5/11/2004 2:42 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Oh well...at least this saves me the trouble of starting my own thread. I’m afraid I lost the plot with some ____head Americans (you are not all ____heads by the way) and went of the beam with some rather insulting words....true words...but insulting nonetheless. That aside I have decided that due to all the bull I am receiving just because I am not getting technical enough I will NOT give anyone the satisfaction of KNOWING FOR SURE.....YET. I have waited for over two decades for this time...and its HERE boys and girls. I really don't care if you think I am legit. Think what you bloody want to think...or should I say...think as THEY (the PTB) want you to think...right up until its raining DEATH. Its coming...I promise you...IT IS COMING....but bugger me if I will let my exact technical knowledge out until three days BEFORE first impact. THEN you will have your proof...and it will be too late then. Some of you if you have any brains will research FAST the clues I gave because they lead to other clues. I will give no more...YET...have fun with what you know for now. IF someone can find EXACTLY what I am getting at THEN I will announce to EVERYONE on the forum EXACTLY what I know...HOW I found it out....WHEN I first learned of the imminent impacts and so on. ALL will be revealed...but YOU must do your homework. When I finally DO let the cat all the way out of the bag...THEN you will know...oh yes...then you will know it all. I will show you beyond a shadow of ANY doubt the REAL TRUTH. You will be able to verify everything I say. Not all of it can be found on the net. Actually I will be surprised if you DO find what I am referring to on the net, Try old libraries and archives. You will find some very interesting...and long buried FACTS in those places. I have given you the key words...the ones you need for now. WHEN you return with your homework I will reveal MORE...until the puzzle fits. BUT do not be surprised if when the real truth dawns you go a bit insane....you will feel the deepest sense of betrayal by your government you could imagine. Thus the reason they will never tell you what is coming they have lied to and manipulated us all...except those of us who KNEW from the beginning like myself. At the last week I will tell who I am...and then you will know WHY I had to remain hidden. It is also the reason WHY I never get technical because if I did I would expose myself. There are only so many 60+ astronomers in Australia who know what I know. If I were to tip my hand the game would be up...and then you would never know the truth. I will wait until there is nothing they can do to me before I stop speaking in riddles...the time will come however...very soon...when I will tell all. But do some searching yourself as well. Aussie Bloke 5/11/2004 7:27 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 AS to the sun getting dark...THIS will be due to the thick dust cloud approaching. You wont see it yet because most scopes WONT see BLACK. It will NOT occult the stars until it is at our doorstep. It approaches south of the ecliptic...BIG surprise for everybody. The approaching comet...well...THAT will either HIT or MISS...as I said...it is variable so don't expect a date because even WE couldn't figure it out. All we know is this...SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS. The meteor showers we can expect DEFINITELY...and as for November and the rest of 2005....well...it just gets worse. BUT...we will have no internet so I will tell ALL....VERY SOON. Some people have already hit a couple of nails on the head...but only PART of the truth has been found so far. It is MORE than just the Meteors....a LOT more...but that is part of it and ties in. It will all fit together...you will see...Have a nice day....good job homework doers...KEEP IT UP...you are finding the truth. Its out there. Remember the key words...they tie into OTHER clues. Keep hitting those nails. And as for you idiots out there who laugh...WHY don't you show us how intelligent YOU are and PROVE ME WRONG...I DARE YOU!!! you will NOT like what you find if indeed you search at all. I look forward to seeing YOU quietly disappear and show up under a different name...it will be funny to watch...HAVE FUN. Aussie Bloke 5/12/2004 1:43 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Threw a tantrum hey? Proven WRONG was I? I love you debunkers you are sooooo entertaining. By the way no one has YET to prove me wrong...in fact the clues I gave are only serving to show that I am correct, and I am correct because...get this...WE WERE THE FIRST ONES TO DISCOVER THE DAMN THING. You can spout off all you want...it wont change the fact. Just to give you something to chew on I will in future posts put more purposefully wrong info in just to keep you entertained. Those of us who KNOW...THE INTELLIGENT ONES...will not be sidetracked by it. And no...I am NOT a troll...I am fair dinkum...true blue. One person who was researching the clues that Aussie Bloke was giving, came across this info, and here was his post: Check THIS out!!!! 5/12/2004 2:03 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887(993.56)ETA:-24:34.INC T-005.83..:-5-004.3.733(447.34)ETA:-05:51.INC T-003.48..:-6-004.5.735(693.72)ETA:-10:37.INC? MDC:-DIA=1.43..AU VEL as follows:-0.000234 LS :-0.000138 LS :-0.000319 LS PTOI 1.9558.56 WE 10098.56 SE TTI+ETA(^&.99) ETS SH=27/6/04? Tracking VEL US at this time. PROJECTED POA UNKNOWN T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887 INBOUND AT (sec.com) NAV 335.78+09.456(EMP=.0045) PSM.0012. Aussie Bloke 5/12/2004 2:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Who the hell posted THAT!!! YOU IDIOT!!! DON'T tell them YET...why do I even bother...the cats out of the bag...good one idiot. They work it out and then goodbye everyone. Oh well...there it is ladies and gentlemen...IF you can work the codes...its there in black and white. I think I know who posted this....I am onto you. Party pooper. Aussie Bloke 5/12/2004 9:29 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887(993.56)ETA:-24:34.INC T-005.83..:-5-004.3.733(447.34)ETA:-05:51.INC T-003.48..:-6-004.5.735(693.72)ETA:-10:37.INC? Interesting the way he coded it. Maybe I should "uncode" some of it for you. But if I do all the fun will be spoiled. So I will simply clarify a few things here and there. - is + ETA:- Estimated Time of Arrival T- is t minus and counting....the times are mixed up but correct...YOU decide which one will hit first. INC is Incoming Now Confirmed.....as you can see there is a question mark. It is a vital clue...by the way...THAT one is the one we are really worried about. It is somewhat unpredictable and none of us can explain why. THAT is why it is called an "anomaly"...UNKNOWN. MDC:-DIA=1.43..AU VEL as follows:-0.000234 LS :-0.000138 LS :-0.000319 LS The above is clear enough for you to work out. AHHH...now we have some interesting numbers here. PTOI is Projected Time Of Impact. The numbers are self explanatory....WE is west and SE is South east. YOU know what the numbers mean...just look at a map and work it out. The numbers COULD be (hint) in reverse order or mixed up...but they are correct. I don't want to take all the fun out of it for you. (^&.99) IS a percentage probability...you were correct. PTOI 1.9558.56 WE 10098.56 SE TTI+ETA(^&.99) ETS SH=27/6/04? Tracking VEL US at this time. PROJECTED POA UNKNOWN PSM is PER SIMULATION MODEL The numbers are hours or days...or both (hint) have fun. T-199.80..:-5-004.1.887 INBOUND AT (sec.com) NAV 335.78+09.456(EMP=.0045) PSM.0012. To put it all into plain English I will say this. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE. Work this out and you will have all your answers. There are THREE incoming objects. TWO of them we know a lot about...but the third one is an unknown...all we know is it is coming and it has a high probability of hitting us. The other two WILL hit us. Along with these three main objects are many many smaller ones...it will rain death all over the world for a week or so. The death rain as we call it will begin late June. Leading up to June you can expect a wonderful light show as millions of small meteorites enter our atmosphere. I keep saying look south...but it is hard for most of the world to do this...unless you live down under and know exactly where to look and WHAT to look for. Immediately preceding the impacts, the earth...in fact the entire solar system...will be shrouded in thick black space dust. NASA will try..and indeed they already ARE trying to knock these objects of course. Next month is their last chance. ALL the satellites including the ISS will be obliterated and re enter the atmosphere causing the release of tons of toxic fumes into our air. On top of that you have multiple impacts all over the world and tidal waves like you could not imagine sweeping EVERY coastline around the world. THERE WILL BE NO PLACE TO HIDE. THOSE who for some reason survive will soon wish they had NOT. AFTER this all occurs humanity will emerge from their burrows...those that had one and lived....and proceed to kill each other just to keep living. The government will take control...or try to...and enforce their will on ALL. THE safest place to be is Australia well away from the coast...but even THAT is only a guess at this time because we simply do not know what "anomaly" will do as yet. So to counter all this we have a lot of distractions at present...wars...torture...beheadings...and for some reason interest rates are about to go up again. Keeps everyone focused on the here and now....or next year....ANYTHING but next month!! Watch the CNN...get all the latest "fair and balanced" CRAP...keep your minds away from next month...keep it focused on the elections and "next year"...keep focused on you debts...keep focused on the "war"...UP the alert to RED...declare martial law...and BAM...they got ya trapped. Nowhere to run and no WAY to hide. Now....you can believe all this and...you still die...OR you can label me a fruit loop and you STILL die.....either way you still die...and if you go to the beach and hang around it will be quick at least. Aussie Bloke 5/12/2004 11:05 pm EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 IF everyone knew who I was and where I am...you would at this time be running for the hills in a big way. I will soon be posting very credible and verifiable information...NO MORE RIDDLES. THIS forum is tagged now....so I will not stuff around much longer. You wonder WHY I get so pissed at you idiots. So many days of doom have come and gone...so many different scenarios of doom...and NOT ONE of them has even come close to revealing the wolf. They skirt around it and mention all the signs. Now the time for the real show to begin and everybody is laughing...as planned. But it IS frustrating. The nibiru crowd...paid by the gov....the photon belt crowd...the same...they are ALL paid to give ANY explanation EXCEPT the real one. False dates are common...keeps you in fear and when it comes and goes back to sleep you go. You have been steadily desensitized over the years to doom. ALL THOSE MOVIES OF LATE!!! Now it is on our doorstep....and laughter is all we hear...and I cannot blame you in a way. The PTB has done rather well. I cant blame them. Can you imagine the UTTER CHAOS that would result if we all knew the truth. WHAT IF they had told you all the truth ten years ago....no more babies...no more industry...just a ten year long party of "eat drink and be merry....for in ten years we all die"....THINK about it. NOW we will see what its all been about...all the wars...the fighting over oil....the constant distractions...the recent influx of meteorites...the weird behavior of our sun....the weird orbit of the moon...the wobble of our axis...the warming of the atmosphere and oceans...ALL DUE TO FRICTION.....and the friction is due to the dust. And it will get worse and worse. WHAT about all the wild and wooly weather...record temps....hot when it should be cold and so on? Global warming my a__. Did you ever wonder exactly WHY they only started talking about it shortly after the cloud was first detected in the late 70´s.? They had to come up with a plausible reason for what they knew was coming. Then they reasoned that not everyone would be so gullible...so they created nibiru and photon belts and half a dozen OTHER explanations...but the dust cloud was long buried...until NOW...and suddenly.....THE FORUM SCREWS UP WITH HACKS AND TRIPS. TAGGED...like so many others I have visited. I will not tell you which ones...I don't want to give them a trail and I NEVER post from the same computer in more than one forum. THEY want me BAD. Laugh if you want...its what they programmed you to do....but I promise you...the days of laughter are fast coming to an end. When I expose them...this forum will cease to exist. THEN...onto another one from a different location. Only a few weeks left. I am surprised I have posted THIS much without them shutting it down. I have already stated what WILL happen and WHEN....but I have not been exactly specific...for a purpose....but very soon I will...and then...well....its over. Aussie Bloke 5/12/2004 11:49 pm EDT Re: "Aussie bloke" Vol X I am Australian. In 1975 I lived In Canberra A.C.T. In the suburb of Curtain. I Also Lived at dickson and Manuka. I also had many friends all over Canberra. We used to hang out In Civic and I was there when they Built the Belconnen Mall. I was also there when they built that bloody stupid looking tower on Black mountain. My sister lived in Page in 1985 and in 1987 I lived in the suburb of Cook and in 1990 I lived in evatt. I was a "member" at the Mt Stromlo observatory. It was there that we first spotted some rather interesting things already mentioned. WE were among the first to actually SEE it...but we were the first to actually realize what it meant. I also had a few connections with tracking station 43...THEY were in a flip I can tell you. And so the cover stories began...global warming and other crap was floated about to cover up the truth. SO to you dickheads...what else do I have to do to prove to you I am who I say I am and that I am in fact Australian? IF I go into any more detail I will be tagged and removed...I may have already given away too much. Aussie Bloke 5/13/2004 12:20 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Age is a state of mind...NOT body. And yes...only our bodies will die as such. As for my rage...I suppose it stems from the fact that I am totally disillusioned with this world....AND the fact that we could have done something about it. The real problem came when we realized that no matter what we did or what we invented...it would ultimately be pointless. There was and is NO WAY to stop or alter what is about to come to pass...NO WAY OUT. YES...I am angry...VERY angry with the PTB...LYING ____ the lot of them. My offspring will die...we will ALL die...and you wonder why I am cynical and angry. Whether I was 17 or 70 it would make NO difference. As for bad karma..well...seems we will all cop it whether we have sown good or bad. WE ALL ride this boat together...and we will all go down with the ship. NO life rafts in THIS movie I am afraid. I am very sorry if I have upset some people...I really am...but alas...the truth always hurts. The wool will soon lift of everybody's eyes. You will not need special equipment or southern location soon. And when it arrives it will happen overnight and catch everyone off guard. It is moving that fast. Then will come the rain...a rain of small objects first. THEN we will be shaken by two major impacts about two days apart, THEN...about a week later....along comes the wild card....and if IT hits us we are all well and truly stuffed. Along with this we will be dodging satellite debris and choking on toxic fumes. And if that weren't bad enough we will also be experiencing major volcanic eruptions and massive tidal waves all over the world. THEN...to top it all off...we will have to then deal with each other...those that are left. Constant fighting and killing over the tiniest scrap of food. Mankind will degenerate into a seething mob of animals. The so called survivalists will be among the first to die simply because they have stockpiled food. Bullets wont last forever people. It will come down to sticks and stones. All this time it will be dark and gloomy. NO light to grow food...no water safe to drink. It will not be pleasant. Mankind will come out of it eventually...but in greatly reduced numbers. Sorry if this is upsetting you...but its all true I swear. I will show you all in a couple of weeks just how true it all is. I have given many many clues so perhaps it will be you that tells ME what is coming. And if you do...then you will get the facts and figures to match which will prove beyond doubt who I am and what I am saying to you all. May God be with you all in these last weeks, Please forgive an old pissed off old man for the way I have carried on sometimes. I apologize to you all with all my heart. I will be away for a week or two...must see some family and grandchildren for a bit. So before I go I will give you an approximate date to expect the arrival of the cloud in full force. 18th-20th June Impact 1 24-25th June Impact 2 26th-27th June "anomaly" "anomaly" will have unknown effect but current estimates are not too encouraging. Diameter uncertain. mass uncertain. What IS known is this...it is composed mostly of a crystalline substance of unknown consistency. Some have speculated that it could be a chunk of diamond from the core of a gas giant as noted here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3492919.stm this fits it as well http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlkop/diamond.html ...who knows. But it is weird and fast and coming this way. It is NOT a comet...NOR a planet...it is nothing like we have ever seen before. That is why we do not know what it will do if and when it hits us. Have a laugh now...I know you will..WE did at first too when we first detected it.   Aussie Bloke 5/13/2004 12:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Good question....simple answer. You cant see it because it is shrouded by dust. Sounds similar to the nibiru crap...but its not the same. Nibiru was only an alternative explanation for all the dust and shit we have seen lately. The average backyard scope will not see it. To see it...or them as such..there is more than one inbound...you need a few connections. Radar is one way of seeing it right now (the objects...not the cloud itself) and radio waves was one of the ways we detected the cloud to begin with. The only thing you will see through anything optical is BLACK. You need to penetrate the cloud as we have done and then you can see it. As for you people who are "onto me"...have fun. I am NOT cia...I am NOT a debunker or a distracter...I am simply telling you all the truth...and as for making mistakes...well...I already explained that. But then again...I COULD be what you say I am...but then maybe not....but there is ALWAYS room for doubt isn't there? If I told EVERYONE exactly which type of equipment I have I would be tracked immediately and not only THAT...some very good friends of mine would be too. It was a friend of mine (I still think you were premature to post the specs...even if they WERE mixed up by the way) that posted the specs. I have already chewed him out....but looking back on it now...it turns out to be quite funny. Go the tidbits. Track me all you want...debunk me all you want...it wont change the facts. Aussie Bloke 5/13/2004 2:42 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 More specifics.....I thought I had been fairly specific...I already TOLD you all what to expect. How many times do I have to repeat this. OHHHHH...YOU want to know EXACTLY where these objects ARE? Is THAT it? LOOK SOUTH ONCE AGAIN>>>FAR SOUTH. YOU can bloody find it if you think you are so damn smart. YOU seem to think that YOU can find something almost totally undetectable with you measly scope? The ONLY way to get a definite fix on these objects is with.....hmmm...should I tell you again? YOU will be in for some humble pie eating in a couple of weeks or so. It will be YOU who has to apologize NOT me. I hear so much about this booth bloke....good cover and he made some bucks from it...good for him. I however CANNOT go public with what I know simply because THE PUBLIC COULD NOT HANDLE IT. BUT...tell them about all THIS and they will check it out soon enough and the all hell breaks loose. All I seem to hear is "gimme specifics this and gimme specifics that".....even if i did you would with your backyard scopes, STILL miss it. IT IS SHROUDED>>>all of them are. You ask WHY cant we see the dust cloud? Simply because it is approaching from a sparse region...not much to occult where its coming from. And besides all that.....how many of you can see directly south...not many. WHY dont you ask the nice people at TS43 to point their dish south for you. If you ask nicely they may do it for you...NOT. WHY do you think they burnt stromlo down???? THE most important observatory in the south....and they let it BURN. The place was well set up to keep it from burning down. BUT....couldn't have all those amateurs pointing the scope in the wrong direction could we? There IS a dust storm approaching...we are and have been feeling the effects of it for a couple of years. ALL this weird weather and upset is simply due to the outermost tenuous fringes of it....the thickest part is yet to come. The oort cloud has been stirred and some debris is headed this way...LOTS of it. NOT to mention the debris of the storm itself. Why do you think they said the storm itself would be mostly harmless? Because in and of itself it IS mostly harmless...but it WILL block out the light somewhat and there will be a dazzling show as all the satellites come crashing down and we all start to choke on toxins and rads. BUT they didn't mention the disruption of the oort cloud DID they? And I cannot blame them. NOW we have comets coming left right and bloody centre...last year...one after another...and THIS year...same again. It was just a matter of time until some of them headed our way. The belt was stirred too....and look at Mars....WHY the sudden interest in Mars? YOU work it out. USE YOUR BRAIN. IF you cannot see the objects....then piece the puzzle together by the evidence. The objects will be seen by all soon enough. And as for "anomaly"...well....THAT one is the wild card. We are ALWAYS willing to listen when someone comes along with a truth that goes against what is "known". So...just because the general public did not believe the earth was round did NOT make them right. As is the case here...just because the general public has been treated like a bunch of mushrooms and kept in the dark and fed on bullshit...does NOT mean I am wrong. PROVE me wrong I say. YOU CANNOT because ALL the evidence adds up and there is NOT a thing you can do about it....except LOOK. FIND someone with the right equipment and SEE FOR YOURSELF. SIMPLE. But even if you don't which is highly likely...you will know soon enough. Aussie Bloke 5/13/2004 3:20 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Cant you read? I already explained why. Unless you have a good spot way down south you wont see it. PLUS you need the right eq. But soon that will change. 2 weeks before the first impacts the light will dim somewhat...THEN you wont miss it because it will be surrounding us. It is moving at a velocity that will upset the apple cart in a big way. Just look what the outermost fringes are doing to us.....now....imagine what will happen when the clouds density doubles and then doubles again. Scary stuff. On top of that you have the impacts to worry about. Who knows...with any luck the cloud will save the day by knocking the things of course before they hit. But it was the cloud that sent these things at us in the first place. And the really scary thing is....we don't know for sure how many will actually hit us except for the three we are tracking. There most likely is a lot more we just didn't see, and going by the nature of the cloud we probably wont see them until they land on our heads. How many times recently have we had NEO´s passing by...and NOT seeing some of them until they were either PAST us or in our laps? SO....don't you think that we will NOT see the ones that will hit us especially since they arrive in a cloud of cosmic dust? The cloud is approaching. It is still some distance away...but its speed will get it here soon enough....and you wont see it until almost the last minute because it is approaching due south....did you get that? DIRECTLY SOUTH. Our atmosphere will take a beating...it will indeed roll back like a scroll....and all hell will break loose. THIS is worse than nibiru in a lot of ways. The storm will last for about ten days at peak intensity and then die off. But the after effects will linger for many years. The sun is already turning almost white because of the massive influx of particles. Our orbits are becoming increasingly erratic. The moon just isn't where it should be NOR is it stable. Our rotation IS slowing due to friction caused by the dust. The outer planets are feeling it too...just have a good long look and remove your blinders. AB 5/13/2004 3:33 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE What do you want to chat about? I'm open...but don't expect me to be precise with you until I know you can be trusted with what I may or may not tell you...also...I will NEVER give my identity away...at least not yet. I will continue to speak layman for some time yet. So far most people think I don't know anything simply because I refuse to get technical. I still will. Once I begin. there will be no end...and this forum will cease. It has happened before and it will happen again. The mistake I made was being to precise. So...I have to do it like the movies...tell the truth....and make it look like a story...so those who KNOW the truth will take heed...and those who just don't want to know will just keep raving on about how wrong I am. I suspect you just want to prove me wrong and I may "let" you after I figure out whether you are serious about wanting to know...or are just trying to "catch me out". I am here and willing to talk. If you start with any crap I will simply ignore you. And by the way....I WILL be dropping the covers soon...so if you DO "Prove me wrong" it will not be for long and YOU will end up eating a whole lot of words. So....engage me with caution because I don't have time for fools.....and for that matter...the fools themselves don't have much time either. AB 5/13/2004 3:50 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE The truth is out huh? So....you tracked me down and now what? what will you do.....you still cannot prove me wrong can you? Go on...tell everyone who you think I am...you will be wrong. IP wont work either...I use many here and there. When one is tagged...I use another...so...now what will you do? Have me bumped off? Truth is out my ass. Go on...tell them all...and when I fully reveal myself you will look like a real fool. I do not fear you. Do your worst. AB 5/13/2004 5:21 am EDT Re: AUSSIE BLOKE I'm Frankie HUH?  You have NO idea who I am. I am NOT a regular to this forum until recently. Check the IP and confirm. I know no one here. I am who I say I am and who I say I am is no one here. YOU will never find out until the last moment who I am. My name is in several astronomy books and it IS mentioned along with some discoveries made in the 70´s THAT is all I will tell. Have fun working it out. Aussie Bloke 5/14/2004 1:27 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 I have to go for a while...a week or two to visit family. In a couple of weeks or so I will return...and THEN...I WILL DUMP IT ALL. Prime last days entertainment. IF you are wondering why I have to go for a bit its because I want to do a few "last minute" things. Aussie Bloke 5/14/2004 2:29 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#1 Just read back a bit in the previous posts. LOVE IT. LOOK!!...I didn't spell CURTIN correctly.....so WHAT. Explain then idiot how I would know so much about canberra? Do you want to know some MORE? OK...Ever been to Corrin Dam? Or been to Farmers market at Woden Plaza? What about Mt Ainslie Lookout? Or perhaps you have been to the Venus Shop at Fyshwic? You seem to be a wanker so you would be at home there. Or How about club 77...you would most likely go there AFTER working up an appetine across the road wouldn't you? What about the fires and stuff? I was there when they swept through visiting my friends. I was well aware they would let stromlo burn. They HAD to...OR...everything would be known to the public by now and we would already be in hell. stop your nit picking junk. It only shows to those of us who know better that you are just grasping at straws. To those who think I am being nasty by letting all this out...you may be correct to a point. BUT...I cannot at the same time let everyone die without at least telling you about it...UNLIKE our precious bloody useless government. I have been trying to tell for a long time and I was always told to "can it". So...with the advent of the internet I am able to get the word out to a degree. But the trouble is there is already half a dozen crackpots each spouting their OWN brand of doom. Now the truth comes along and look what happens...no one...or very few...takes heed. JUST another lot of doom that will NOT happen...so they think. The cloud approaches fast people...as do the impactors and other debris...and LETS not forget the "anomalie"....the wild card. THAT is the most dangerous object...its NOT a comet...its NOT a planet...its a...well...its an anomalie. It is bloody HUGE!! and it is bloody unpredictable. But it is headed this way that is certain. Buckle up. due south. Aussie Bloke 5/14/2004 6:49 pm EDT It is with tears on my eyes that I read all of the above. Yes...the truth is slowly dawning after all these years. 25 years of frustration and anger...so much pain and anguish. People please forgive an old man who lost the plot with some idiots here and there. I am....hmmm...should I tell you yet? No...a bit longer. The truth is already out there for you all to see. Who I am is not important as yet as you are adequately following the clues I have given you. In fact my real name has ALREADY been alluded too. And by the way...for the person who thinks I am younger than I am just because I have attitude....well...you TOO would have attitude if YOU had to carry around for decades the knowledge of your own and the worlds doom. I am not being up front with the WHOLE truth for reasons I have already stated. IF I was some backyard astronomer who knew about all this I would have no reason not to be precise. But because of who I am I just cannot tell you because the repercussions on my family and myself would be..well..not pleasant. I want to be in peace with my kin before we all go if you know what I mean. I have furnished you with dates and times and everything else you need to know for now. The rest will come later. Aussie Bloke 5/15/2004 9:14 am EDT "Tomorrow I am off to see my family and friends. It will be hard to let go but I am old and dying anyway so I was prepared in any case. I know the revelations I have given are shocking and I am sorry if you are upset...but someone had to tell sooner or later. You say I am lying just because I have not told you all exactly who I am. I have already done so many times...all you have to do is add it all up and like I keep saying USE YOUR BRAINS....but there is room for doubt. You also say I am lying simply because I do not get technical with you all. I can understand you would think I am not for real...which was intentional. I must remain in the shadow of doubt at least until I can spend some time with my family. THEY know the truth. I have never concealed it from them and we all want to say our farewells to each other in peace. When I return I will reveal all...in a big way...you can count on it. For then I will have no more to fear and no more reason to hide anything from you. The government will be furious and they most likely will come up with some way of discrediting me. Even though I worked for them at one time...they will not hesitate to shoot me down if they have to. Who knows...I may even get all my facts and figures together and go live on tv. JUST to piss them off....but not until there is nothing to loose by the riots that will result...OR...I will simply tell a few here and there as I am doing now and save everyone a lot of panic and fear. SOME people NEED to know in order to either prepare or escape. It is NOT the end of the world...it is a chance for a new beginning once the old and rotten order of this present day is done away with. The survivors will replenish the earth....no more wars for quite some time. To those who wish to survive....teach the children of the new era to live in peace and love. LEARN just for once from our past. You see....it seems the ONLY thing that mankind has learnt from history is that we DO NOT learn from history. It is now time to break that chain...or in a thousand years we will probably wipe ourselves out anyway...and this time it will be TOTAL. Farewell...and make your peace with all you know while you still have time". Revelation 6: "I watched as he broke the sixth seal, and there was a vast earthquake; and the sun became dark like black cloth, and the moon was blood red. Then the stars of heaven appeared to be falling to earth like green fruit from fig trees buffeted by mighty winds. And the starry heavens disappeared as though rolled up like a scroll and taken away, and every mountain and island shook and shifted." Below are comments from someone who was on the message board who lives in Australia who has noticed a lot of activity in an observatory in Australia called "Wormwood" does that name ring a bell?" Revelation 8:10-11 "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water, the name of the star is Wormwood" I spend a lot of time in Western Australia and my friend who lives at Exmouth called me just a minute ago. He said that the locals in the town are all curious about the increase in people, traffic, aircraft etc. traveling to and from the Learmonth (Project Wormwood) Observatory, which is approx. 30 miles down the road. He estimates the people and goods and traffic has tripled over the last 10 days. Much of this has been via the Exmouth airport. There have been some military brass amongst them. It is a similar situation in the town of Carnarvon. Of course, there is no official acknowledgment of anything out of the ordinary. I have asked him to discretely sniff around more and I will keep this group informed. Best regards to all Keith in Australia" http://www.ips.gov.au/IPSHosted/neo/index.html Another poster showing proof that this could happen base on an article online: My read on Aussie Bloke is that he was trying to direct us to the source of the problem, as well as telling us the details of what is going to happen in the near future. I think I have uncovered some evidence pointing to the source… http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004/Interplanetary_1.htm http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/novae/novae.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3492919.stm Below are many links that others have left on the thread for people to look at. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/animation-comets.gif www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2566165 http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/summary/swan/latest _swan_ARecl_sm.gif http://nssdcftp.gsfc.nasa.gov/spacecraft_data/de/de2/electric_ fields_vefi/ac_500ms_ascii/1982/04/1982104T2117_2142_de2_ vefi_ac_500ms.asc http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/realtime-eit_284.html  http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/gammadim/wpaasteroidprophecies.html http://home.pe.net/~mjagee/procon1123.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3359555.stm http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story _page/0,5744,9304633%255E29098,00.html http://www.usbunkers.com/main.htm Right now, I am asking myself, why is it so cloudy where I live?  For the past several weeks, even sunny days seem like there is "dust" between the earth and the sun.  I am going to be watching for the incredible meteor storm like the poster mentioned.  This should be a sure sign that it is coming. I will probably come back with a final article when Aussie Bloke reveals what he say's he will reveal so I can post it for the Bush Country readers (if you will post it) I will close this article the same way I did with the one I sent you a few weeks ago. Your website is run by Christians, so please, direct your readers to this URL if they want peace in all this.  I have total peace because I know I am going to be with God.  God will not let His own go through His wrath Rom 5:9  "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him" He saved Moses and his family and God will save those that are His before this event. Who knows, maybe when everything goes dark?  Christ did say in 2nd Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up".  I know that you are going to get lots of heat if you post this article, but I am hoping that it will lead those who are lost, to be found by accepting Christ Plan of Salvation!  Thanks again Name Withheld

[JustPlainJoe]

Dude, that's GREAT!!! (Wiley E. Coyote)

I printed this whole post and read it at home last night.
Dr. Goebbels, Gartell, Garbage,(whatever) is a Quack.

He wants to play "Phantom of the Opera" with people; HE knows this terrible secret that he feels he MUST share with the world! But he only talks in vague riddles and then insults people who question him. He insists on a vow of anonymity, saying he will ONLY reveal his identity 3 days before impact.
Well, it didn't take very long for him to spill the beans, did it? "You fools! Prove me wrong if you CAN!"
I see Lon Chaney hanging from the chandelier now....

In the midst of all this, he takes a 2 week vacation to visit his grandchildren before coming back to CONTINUE his taunting of internet surfers? I may be dumb as a box of horse manure, but If I knew that the end of the world was coming in a month, I'd spend EVERY minute of it with my kids/grandkids. No offense to we FReepers, but I surely wouldn't bother coming back to toy with you or any other message board group about 'what I know'.

Another thing....

This clown says that "of COURSE you can't see it - its coming from DUE SOUTH! It can ONLY be seen from (coincidentally) Austrailia - HIS home. Pardon my ignorance folks, but if this thing is heading at us from due south and can only be seen from Austrailia, HOW in the world can Austrailia be the SAFEST place on earth?
Somebody please clear this up for me.... I feel sorry for all those wallabys, kangaroos and koala bears - they have to share a country with this kook, Dr. Garbage.

This guy is seeking attention. Desperately. I don't know what chemicals he spent all those years working around in his laboratory, but he really should be warning people about the permanent damage caused by THEM.
I wonder what kind of doctor he really is! Has he ever worked on horses? Corns, bunions and ingrown toenails maybe?

This guy is a FROOT LOOP. I shall not refer to him as 'Aussie Bloke' but as 'Toucan Sam'. This bird has flown the coop!

[JustPlainJoe]

Oh yeah,... Regarding all our ships being sent out to sea... Can you think of a better place for them? I can't see the government paying millions of $$$ for aircraft carriers to leave them sit there docked. What is so ookey about our Navy going out to sea?

If this collision is to take place, what's the point of saving SEVEN of our ships when the bulk of our world will be gone anyway? Well, I guess you'd still have seven ships to play with when you can't find any food to eat or grow... That's the important thing I guess... gotta have SOME hobby after the holocaust!

[JustAnAmerican]

This guy seemed like a pretty big Kook the first time I read this a week or so ago, but with the meteor shower/Big booms over WA this morning methinks I will keep an open mind all the same.

[Rick.Donaldson]

When was the last time you heard of SEVEN carriers and all their support ships heading at at ONCE? Have you got a link for that?

I believe we STILL haven't heard of this. All of this material is coming from an unknown, and unverifiable source. I think it is all coming from the SAME source, rather than several sources and each of the people "quoting the source" are simply passing on this information as second-hand rumor. I haven't heard or seen anything about such troop movements (NOT that I would ever post such a thing anyway, and I would think that most of you would know better too actually).

In other words, we don't know about the naval movements at this point with ANY sort of accuracy (and for obvious reasons if I KNEW about such things, I wouldn't verify it anyway). Since I don't know and I can assume that most of you don't know, we can all assume for the time being that if this type of information is being bandided about, it's NOT ACCURATE! One TV station link that says "seven of the twelve carriers" away from port at the same time. That means that it is unusual, but does it mean something else is going on? Not really. It means that conspiracists' minds want to "know" (or make up reasons for it).

Interesting bit on the HAM radio talk though.

Yeah, it was. Anyone got a link to the ACTUAL recording per chance? I just happen to ALSO be a ham radio operator, and hold an amateur extra class license (That's the highest license class in the US there is). I've worked in radio for well over 30 years both professionally and as an amateur radio operator, and have been listening to the short wave since I was about 8 or 9 years old. I'd love to hear this recording, if anyone knows where it is located.

11.176 Mhz (11176 khz) is assigned to the shortwave bands, however, I have actually USED that frequency with the military. The site "Above Top Secret" has some information on this as well (which I assume you got it from there?) I noted that Bushcountry was one of the links to the information... hmmm: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread48028/pg1 and http://www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/g_050204_withheld_earth_danger_inbound_meteors.htm

Anyway, about this whole communications thing.... I can't seem to find or verify anything in the way of callsigns on this frequency, but, starting tonight, I'll start monitoring the HF frequencies I DO know about and listening in (I have several SW receivers). For the record that frequency is NOT a ham band (that is we do not have operating priviledges there on that particular frequency). However, it isn't difficult for someone to transmit pretty much anywhere, given the right, albeit, somewhat expensive equipment.

Actually, I believe that exploding a nuke (or several nukes) near it would deflect it by a couple of tenths of degrees. If it is far enough out, that would be enough to cause it to miss the earth. However, as far as I know, we have no rocket capable of delivering a nuke that far.

The scenario is "IF we catch it in time". That is if we have years of time to plan it, that's possible. If something is discovered a few months from impact (or a few days) there is literally nothing whatsoever that can be done, save perhaps protecting the inland areas, assuming the rock will hit the ocean.

I visited Meteor Crater a couple of weeks back, something I've wanted to do since I was a child. It was AWESOME (the grand canyon is more awesome, but considering the way the two were formed, you have to get your mind around that concept!) as it was over a mile across, and about 3.5 miles in diameter. It was created only 50,000 years ago when a 150 foot-in-diameter nickle-iron meteor slammed into the planet. Life apparently survived, however that particular region probably lost most of the life around there. Assuming anything we have "coming in" is not much bigger, it's gonna cause a regional disaster. If it is bigger, we can only guess.

That's what I'd do with the fleet, if it were my call. Still, I am far from convinced with this meteorite-strike stuff. All that we have is one highly dubious source, and a lot of material from sites that say this kind of thing all the time, anyway.

I'm not convinced either. However, I say keep an open mind about it. On the other hand the "dubious source"... well, that speaks for itself, doesn't it? :)

Comets make rare joint appearance Unrelated. Comets LINEAR and NEAT have both been known about for months. I spent a few nights observing comet NEAT from a desert location in New Mexico in my travels recently. Both comets' paths take them around the sun and away from Earth. The calculations have been done to death. If I had my lap top with me I could tell you where to look tonight for them. So far, they have been right where predicted.

I alway find the "End of the World" Christians to be funny, if not kinda sad.

Don't blame it on "end of the world Christians". It's just end of the world people. Those who are Christian do not have anything to worry about. The ones who are always coming up with these conspiracies about the government are neither Christian nor are they even right wing people for the most part. Now, those that believe them are from ALL walks of life.

Stanton Friedman and Jim Hoagland

Not that I care you got his name wrong, because he and I do not get along well, hehehe, but it's RICHARD Hoagland. I think you should at least get it right though, since he's actually gone out on a limb with some of his ridicilous theories and been proven wrong (for the most part) and he has done other things I won't go into. Whomever JIM Hoagland is doesn't deserve having such stuff dropped in his backyard if he's not doing it. While RICHARD HOAGLAND on the other deserves everything coming to him. :)

If I were really determined to survive something like this, I'd move to the Rockies or someplace, pick my homesite with infinite care, have the ability to farm, hunt and fish and protect myself from any possible hordes of the unprepared. Unless a)The impact is of such violence that this is all moot, or b) I get squashed like a bug by having the rotten luck of being at Ground Zero.

Give RAFLEET and myself a holler when you get to the Rockies. :) That's where WE LIVE. haha. By the way, all the good fishing spots are already taken! So you'll have to share one of ours. :)

I agree. I have been called a racist, bigot, homophobe, intolerant @$$h0le, and other things less accurate... LESS ACCURATE? LOL! Good one :)

Don't know why, but it spooked me.

The idea IS to spook you. Conspiracy theorists the world over have practiced this art for several years now. They are getting "better at it". I've been involved in this "anomalies community" for a long, long time running forums, communicating with these folks, arguing with them and at times even taking up their cause (for the purposes of learning of course, never to pass on fake information) and over the years I think I've gotten a pretty good "feel" for the psychology of these folks. The point IS to scare you. A long time ago it was the survivalists being taken to task by the media, and the REASON for this if it isn't clear now, that there are anti-gun forces out there that simply want to make the right wing look bad. So, the infiltrated the groups and brought them down a few levels. It took a long time to show this to individuals, but we've managed to show it. I think Rafleet can even attest to this somewhat. Now, we have folks who simply like to cause panic, and are truely anarchists at heart. They WANT the world to end. They WANT people to panic. They WANT the world to come apart at the seams, stocks to crash, people to suffer, and above all they want complete anarchy to reign. The end of the world scenario is a deep dish of chocolate ice cream to them. ANYTHING they can do to make you DOUBT yourself, your faith, your world, your country, your very existence gives them a feeling of power over you.

It is for this reason that I'm even paying any attention to this thread. Normally, I'd have moved on, but there is something in my blood that just IRKS the hell out of me when people simply dismiss this sort of thing as "all kooks" and lump a lot of people together or worse, believe it without looking up the facts. In other words, those of us who are "survivalists", not unlike myself and RAFLEET, aren't kooks. We're dyed-in-the-wool, real, honest and down-to-earth people who look at things from the point of view that technology isn't what keeps us alive today, and that technology isn't what kept the human race alive in the past. The survival of the human race is something we all should be doing and thinking about. Dismissing these conspiracy folks, or their stories of death-asteroids is just as wrong though. They aren't people who are going to be there to HELP you along, if there IS a disaster, they will be there TAKING what you have. Furthermore, the asteroid scenario is REAL. Don't dismiss it, even if certain in-the-know scientists do that. It IS a real threat. An impact on this planet is something you ought to think about.

Remember Shoemake-Levy 9? That was the comet that was broken up into about 20-25 pieces as it passed Jupiter at some point in it's history, and was sucked up by Jupiter's gravity. One piece of that comet that hit Jupiter (all the pieces hit) produced more energy than ALL of the nuclear weapons on this planet put together and detonated at the same time. That WILL destory all life on this world. I would hope our destiny is something a little more than that of the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs had small brains and didn't understand what happened to them, we humans at least can conceive of such destruction, AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

So, whether this Aussie guy is accurate or NOT is completely irrelevant, at least it makes you all THINK about it. That's good. What's bad is to simply be spooked by it and not bother to learn something new. :)

I guess that's all, this was a long message and my apologies for making it so long. Rick

[Cannoneer No. 4]

How is archy?

[JustPlainJoe]

Well, suppose this thing IS coming and that we all will be dead within 90 days. How would you guys live/alter your life knowing this?

I was just thinking about that and if we WOULD alter our lives knowing the end is here, why wouldn't we live that way even if it weren't?

Just a goofy "what if?" question...

I figured I'd live pretty much what I'm doing now even if
we are, in the words of Dr. Smith (Lost in Space), DOOMED!

No worries, mate! (How's THAT Dr. Garbage?)

[Rick.Donaldson]

Even if the government were attempting to quell potential civilian rioting that would occur with general knowledge of the "end of the world", there would be signs of massive constructions underground (the "Burrow") preparing to preserve a remnant for repopulating the world. This would be a noticeable drain on the economy. It ain't there.

You're preaaching to the choir, Swordmaker, I know this. I agree completely. I don't think there is anything like this in the works. ON THE OTHER HAND, I will say that open sourced intelligence says that many countries around us have LEARNED a quick and dirty lesson from both Iraq wars, and Afghanastan. That lesson is that the US can't, even with the BIGGEST bombs penetrate very far down. Thus, they are building large, underground facilities to protect their mission-essential military, and/or government personnel. Russia, China, North Korea are all doing this (do some searching, you will find this information in the news). Not that this has anything really to do with asteroids, but it could very well be the next line of thinking coming from the conspiracy folks. (In other words, "well, china, north korea and russia all have been building underground facilities! Why aren't WE!" kind of stuff.) Watch for it. :)

Consider: a world-wide consipracy of silence among astronomers and cosmologists may be possible (I doubt it... think of the egos) but how about a world-wide conspiracy of silence among BUREAUCRATS and POLITICIANS??? ...They haven't squealed! ...

Again, I agree completely. My one, main argument against any conspiracy theory that involves the US government, Illuminati, etc, etc, is that "Our government is full of people like you and I and even dumber-than-rock fools, who can't keep such a secret because they want to brag about it."

Certainly, we keep secrets related to National Security all the time and do it very well. But, secrets that remove rights from our people every chance they get? Secrets that incarcerate people for no reason? Secrets about the end of the world as we know it, and yet life goes on "as normal"? Not no way, not no how. I'd be screaming the truth from the top of a hill if I knew it to be so (that is, that the world is gonna end next Thursday or whenever)!

If this EOW event were nigh, would we have allowed the Space Shuttle to have been sidetracked by one little accident? Wouldn't we be building as many as we could in hopes of a technological breakthrough that would need transportation to space to save us all? The shuttle is grounded! Probably the shuttle would be ready to go, no matter what. However, they wouldn't be building as many as possible. Where we gonna go? Can't move 8 billion people in shuttles, and we do not have a lunar base, no station big enough to support more than a few people for a couple of months. Naw, the space program isn't going to spend money on moving us anywhere we haven't already been and know we can survive.

As to this "Dr. Gartrel" or whatever his name is, I don't know who he is. Never seen the name before this story came up. But you're right. Even idiots like me know that even if ALL the several THOUSAND pieces of space debris up there, and all the satellites, ISS and whatever else happens to fall all at the same time, the amount of matter added back to the planet will be almost nothing, and "gasses" and "radiation" is nothing compared to what hits us every day in the form of x-rays, cosmic radiation and so forth. If, for the sake of argument, a HUGE rock DOES hit us, the amount of dust and debris thrown into the atmosphere by that impact will far exceed anything that falls out of space. And it will cause dust in the air for months to darken or block out the sun. A kind of "nuclear winter" will ensue. But, that's the dangers of being in a shooting gallery like our solar system! Still IF he IS a scientist, he might have referred to "friction" instead of "drag" because a lot of people aren't really up on physics, but almost everyone understands "friction"... (shrugs).

Speaking of the satellites if...Why are the GPS satellites still working?

:) I think you got it. :) This is how we pick apart these sorts of theories. Bit by bit, piece by piece. That's an obvious error, one that can easily show that he's... well, to be blunt, FULL OF IT. :)

I think the test of this scenario is in the reports of the naval ships going to sea.

I don't think these things are in any way related, but, COULD BE, hence are used as "connecting items" in the conspiracy (that the government is keeping it quiet). In other words, you can go out on any day of the week and find stories to support whatever wild-assed theory you want, even if the material isn't really related. It takes a conspiracy to hold it together. Conspiracies usually can't be PROVEN.

But he only talks in vague riddles and then insults people who question him. He insists on a vow of anonymity, saying he will ONLY reveal his identity 3 days before impact.

If I haven't personally communicated with this guy myself in the past, I would be very, very surprised. Eventually, they all come through one of the web sites I frequent. Even so, ALL of these people have the exact same modus operandi, in that they will never reveal themselves (aliases are almost ALWAYS used). They will attack the questioners, especially if the questioner happens to be a "non-believer" in the person's theory, and those attacks range from personal attacks, to attempting to discredit someone's credentials (believe me, they have tried that on me numerous times) to simply calling someone names. It just depends on the level of maturity in these folks. For the most part that level of maturity falls somewhat short is just about all of them. They ALL go for the throat when they are proven wrong, or shown to be inconsistant with their data. They almost ALWAYS start squealing about how "you're PART OF THE CONSPIRACY" which in turn focuses on YOU instead of their theory. In other words, you're all learning a GREAT lesson from this :) Pay attention to the way they act. If you had a real, hard story, one that affects the world, are you really going to keep it a secret if you can name names and prove your data? I doubt it. My name is my REAL name. I stick by my statements with my name. If I'm stupid enough to post something that is wrong, then it is stuck to my NAME. I try very hard to verify any data I post. (Sometimes I'm wrong, but, we're all human... except the aliens that work for me in the basement).

:)

Pardon my ignorance folks, but if this thing is heading at us from due south and can only be seen from Austrailia, HOW in the world can Austrailia be the SAFEST place on earth?

technically speaking, something COULD come in from another hemisphere, and yet impact on another. That's possible, but given the fact that Keplerian physics WORKS, it is unlikely that anything would be coming "straight at us" anyway, and whatever the object is will be sighted long before its impact. Besides, CAN HE SEE it? I've not heard that anyone has SEEN anything yet. If we can't SEE it, the WE DON'T KNOW IT IS THERE. That's important. If there is a prediction of something hitting us, and yet no one has SHOWN US WHERE IT IS, then is probably ain't there. If this guy has seen it, show us the photographic evidence. It's not THAT damned difficult even with a small telescope to take a few pictures over a few nights, do a few calculations and figure out some keplerian elements that can be plugged into an orbital program to show the orbits of such objects...

This guy is seeking attention. Desperately. I don't know what chemicals he spent all those years working around in his laboratory, but he really should be warning people about the permanent damage caused by THEM.

If you check my other LONG post (sorry these are long) you will note I mentioned that most of these folks are "anarchists". For some reason, the MAJORITY Of them seem to believe that it's ok to use any sort of drug to "expand your mind", and want to legalize a lot of those drugs as well. I'm betting there were no drugs in his lab, and I doubt there is a lab at all, and that those drugs you mentioned were all part and parcel of his "youth" (which, he is likely still rather young. The majority of these conspiracy folks are in their 20s, some in their 30s. A few are older, but usually well-known, like Hoagland).

[Blood of Tyrants]

His strange obsession with "TONS OF TOXIC FUMES" as a few dozen satellites fall back into the atmosphere are the rantings of a lunatic, not the reasonings of a scientist who has knowledge that of TEOTWAWKI. A few tons of toxic gases released and dispersed and probably distroyed as they re-eneter the atmosphere at 17,000 mph should the the last of his worries.

As for his name, anyone could go online to a university and do a quick search and come up with a name of a person with any type of degree they wanted to impress others with.

[Riley]

When was the last time you heard of SEVEN carriers and all their support ships heading at at ONCE? Have you got a link for that?

I believe we STILL haven't heard of this.

You have now.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146624/posts

I stand corrected on Hoagland's first name. As regards his stuff, I am neither a reflexive skeptic or true believer. Such matters as he investigates ought to have nothing to do with 'belief', only with evidence and investigation. He seems to see anomalous things as 'alien architecture', rather than 'what the hell is that' and 'what ELSE could it be'. In spite of this however, I appreciate that there are people looking for that kind of stuff. I haven't personally explored the surfaces of the Moon and Mars, so I can't say that it is free of someone else's garbage. I suspect that there isn't anything there, but I don't absolutely know that. You won't hear me call him or Friedman 'crackpots'. I just think that they're a little bit predisposed towards certain conclusions, which they also happen to be making a living off of.

[Rick.Donaldson]

No one by the name of Hammermaster is known to the astronomy department, and the description given by the caller to the station of the object -- an automobile-sized piece of a small car from a piece of the larger Trilene meteor -- was clearly bogus, Smith added.

hahaha. Did you all see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146792/posts

[JustPlainJoe]

Guys, this has been a FUN thread. I've really
enjoyed it. Now I guess it's time for MY confession....

I never REALLY had any genuine Titanium Umbrellas to sell!
I was only pretending. If anybody's sent me money already,
I promise to send it back.

I DO have some used knives though, if anybody's interested!

[Blood of Tyrants]

Yep. It is a duplicate of this post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146755/posts

[Blood of Tyrants]

If anyone sent you the money, get some aluminum spray paint and an ordinary umbrella and give them what they deserve.

[Rick.Donaldson]

I think I corrected myself on that at some point (yes, I have read the news articles this morning), if I didn't correct it, I'm sorry. Also, while we have SEVEN out of the 12, I don't see what difference it makes, or how it is connected.

As to Hoagland.... I have nothing against his ideas in general. My personal beef with him is something I won't go into here. I've spent a lot of time "debunking" him on several issues though, and I'm right, he's wrong. That's all there is to say about it. I've dealt with him personally, and his "ethics" leaves something to be desired. I will NOT say that his ideas are "stupid". He might, after all be RIGHT. But, I WILL say we will never KNOW if is he right, one way or the other without physically visiting Mars and LOOKING with human eyes ourselves, for those things he 'sees' there.

As for Stanton Friedman, I've talked at length with him as well, about various things related to the UFO world. I believe he has some very good data (TOP SECRET: Majestic book about "The Majestic 12") and I wouldn't put him off as being a kook either. At least he, in direct comparison to Hoagland has his SCIENCE right. Hoagland on the other hand relies on a lot of non-scientific explanations, "Masonic relationships" and other nonsense stuff about hyperdimensional physics that can't actually be proven.

[Rick.Donaldson]

I never REALLY had any genuine Titanium Umbrellas to sell!

could you.. umm, mail that check back to me? Ok? :)

[bitt]

bttt

[JustAnAmerican]

I am of a mind that even if by some odd turn of thought this was in the works, I can't really say that I would want to know about it. Unless of course there was some small chance that what I could do would have some affect on the outcome. I would point out that if this was going to happen and word did get out, then the mass panic alone would probably be much worse then the event itself.

[JustPlainJoe]

I was thinking kindof 'how would you treat life if you knew the earth was gonna be blown to smithereens in one month'? Would you treat people better? Would you spend more time with your loved ones? Or would you waste your time telling cynical riddles and hurling insults on the internet?

[Riley]

Speaking of 'burrows', where exactly does the notion come from, apart from movies like 'Deep Impact', that one would be any safer underground?

This isn't just a 'bigger nuclear strike'. Personally, I'd just as soon take my chances on a bald hilltop on very high ground, rather than deal with the massive ground shock wave that's ring the Earth like a bell and possibly collapse even reinforced subterranean structures.

What we'd be looking at is an event that is part massive earthquake, part Tsunami, part falling debris and part atmospheric occlusion.

Ideally, I'd be in the mountains somewhere above the possibility of any seismic wave threat, and near the mouth of a cave in case debris starts falling out of the sky. I would in no case go farther into the cave than I could dig myself out of, should a collapse occur.

Having overhead cover is probably a really good idea. Being way underground, might not be.

I don't think that there's anything to this, at this time. It will happen eventually. It has many times in the past.
It makes for an interesting intellectual exercise though.

Suppose you're the President. You have been briefed that such an event is going to take place. When do you notify the public, or do you, at all? You can't possibly shelter them all. Is there a benefit to the public from notifying them? What are most people going to do with that warning, besides jump in their cars with the family pictures a day or two before 'impact day' and try to drive somewhere, making the roads useless to all?

On the other hand, the object is going to become public knowledge before it strikes. It isn't going to sneak up on us. Withholding such knowledge would be disatrous for not just a particular government, but for the concept of government.

[Riley]

I never REALLY had any genuine Titanium Umbrellas to sell!

It's okay Joe, my money is exactly as real as your umbrellas are.