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Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Thread Reader ^ | Jan 2 , 2025 | Green Beret Nap Time

Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76

Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?

Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:

There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:

He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.

He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.

He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.

He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.

Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?

The front windows of the building did not even break.

The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?

Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.

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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.

Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.

I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.

Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.

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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.

He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.

We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.

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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.

Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.

@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.

Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.

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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.

Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.

We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.

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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.

Tell me how this smells…


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To: butterdezillion

No problem. But of course we really meant to say Ft. Cavazos and Ft. Liberty.

(barf)

I wonder if President Trump can undo this? I’ll never call these bases anything but their real names.


141 posted on 01/04/2025 9:25:34 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: larrytown

“Blowing yourself up in a rented cybertruck with fireworks isn’t a “common sense” thing to do. So, on it’s face, it looks like something a kookamook would do.”

I concur. But it is not something a SF E8 would do... that is the common sense part.

It is not common for a kookamook to be a SF team leader. Past experience, right?

The common sense conclusion would be to await more data and think good and hard on it, because the guy selling the story on its face wants people to believe a kookamook did it. Considering that, it is exercising common sense to be skeptical right?


142 posted on 01/04/2025 9:26:28 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: cgbg

Yes. It’s been a long time since I’ve believed the authority figures but now I’m in the uncomfortable position of not having the time to dig in-depth to get to the bottom of things so things just have to sail overhead. In the past I’ve had the time and mental capacity to do the digging; now I don’t.

That’s what happens when your husband is poisoned into dementia, loses his job, dies of dementia, and you go back into the workforce to make ends meet. Since my husband’s dementia diagnosis my doctor says I’ve had “widow’s brain” from the stress. This is why I was told my husband would “have to lose his job” if I didn’t shut up about my Fuddy research. Poisoning my husband and daughter was the quickest way to neutralize me, by taking my time and my brain all in one swoop.

So anyway, now I understand the frustration of the “normies” who just don’t have the time to sort out the evidence so remain agnostic about everything and try to “stay out of politics”. It angers me that the people who are entrusted and paid to get to the truth have so badly betrayed everybody.


143 posted on 01/04/2025 9:29:04 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Jane Long

bump for distribution


144 posted on 01/04/2025 9:29:50 AM PST by thinden (Buckle up …..)
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To: bgill

How convenient.


145 posted on 01/04/2025 9:32:21 AM PST by lee martell
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To: butterdezillion

My “moment of truth” came when I was a child watching TV.

I saw (on live TV) a man walk into a busy police station and murder someone in cold blood.

After that I never believed anything the “experts” or “authorities” told me about anything.

The shooter: Jack Ruby

The victim: Lee Harvey Oswald


146 posted on 01/04/2025 9:33:19 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: bert
I have concluded there was no “bomb”. The explosion was contained by the structure of the Cyber truck. My first impression was that the man was sending a message to both President Trump and Elon Musk. If so, he did a poor job that seems to be unworthy of his actual ability.

He was sending a message. Watch Shawn Ryan’s podcast from the other day. Also note that after the podcast Shawn posted saying he and his family will be “disappearing “ for a few days for safety reasons. Something big is up. Watch your six.
147 posted on 01/04/2025 9:34:03 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: rickomatic

Shawn Ryan has a solid track record.

If Shawn believes the email was valid I have to lean that way as well.


148 posted on 01/04/2025 9:35:34 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: RWGinger

Why involve the baby? All the fibs have to do is look in his military file for his DNA. Maybe compare that with the body. If the body isn’t his, then it wouldn’t match the baby’s. They had his entire house to get his DNA... but noooo, they left the front door off the hinges for anyone and their dog to wander through contaminating it all like that female reporter and her crew. Not even his landlord, friends or family bothered to secure his belongings. This screams of staging a distraction.


149 posted on 01/04/2025 9:44:06 AM PST by bgill
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To: george76
All information sent by Matt after the 29th must be treated as misinformation. The emails to Shawn and Sam were sent on the 31st.

I know that is what Shawn said, but if you look at the actual email he showed, it’s dated 12/29. It also showed Gen Mills’ name even though he read it as “redacted”.
150 posted on 01/04/2025 9:47:17 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: libertylover

What was the message? He never spelled it out but left everyone to wonder. Ok, so bad things happened in war. Why not call up Trump and tell him.


151 posted on 01/04/2025 9:49:13 AM PST by bgill
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To: Jarhead9297

The writer is an idiot with sloppy thinking and sloppy logic, he even calls a woman this guy divorced in 2018, his wife.

“The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger”


152 posted on 01/04/2025 9:50:32 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: nitzy

Wasn’t he in the US for Christmas with his family though? If this was just about changing his sim card he would have done that before Christmas when he was with his family, wouldn’t he? I’m pretty sure his family (dad?) said they saw him on Christmas Day. But the signal change was on Dec 29th, right?


153 posted on 01/04/2025 9:51:33 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Sarcazmo
I concur. But it is not something a SF E8 would do... that is the common sense part.

It is not common for a kookamook to be a SF team leader.


He was a human being, not a god. He was subject to the same foibles and failings as the rest of us.

Yes, past experience has informed me that these guys, like all veterans, are human beings with all that comes with it.
154 posted on 01/04/2025 9:52:22 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Jemian

The cybertruck was a rental. Supposedly through the same app as the New Orleans truck. Can’t put too much on that since probably thousands of people use that app every day.


155 posted on 01/04/2025 9:54:07 AM PST by bgill
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To: ansel12

What is his marital history? You say he divorced Sara in 2018. Is he remarried and has an 8-month-old baby with his new wife?


156 posted on 01/04/2025 9:54:24 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: marktwain


157 posted on 01/04/2025 9:56:12 AM PST by Cold Heart (Government for moral and religious people. Democrat party is neither )
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To: mmichaels1970

I am with you on the involuntary treatment, with safeguards. An ombudsman and annual review by a jury of peers or some such.

Because otherwise all you have is total noncompliance by people who are either too rebellious or too crazy to comply. Addiction also is paramount to so many. Most?

Supposedly if involuntarily committed one cannot get their recreational drugs.

Involuntary commitment, conservatorships, which would indeed mean more beds.


158 posted on 01/04/2025 9:59:32 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: hecticskeptic

Was it? Well, either way, they shouldn’t have left the door wide open.


159 posted on 01/04/2025 10:01:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: george76

recently made the E8 list for MSG


Dang! He could’ve claimed CMS and run for VP.


160 posted on 01/04/2025 10:06:47 AM PST by DPMD
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