Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76
Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:
There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:
He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.
He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.
He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.
He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.
Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?
The front windows of the building did not even break.
The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?
Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.
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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.
Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.
I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.
Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.
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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.
He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.
We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.
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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.
Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.
@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.
Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.
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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.
Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.
We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.
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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.
Tell me how this smells…
The only other option would be that he is still alive, and that his rented Tesla Cybertruck was driven to the Trump hotel remotely, and the corpse in the vehicle is not him. Which would lower the likelihood of his claims being legitimate.
I think we need to look into everything. I neither accept or reject his claims. But what I am saying is that we cannot afford to jump to rapid conclusions in either direction. 🙂👍.
A patsy. Who was PSYOP trained at Fr. Bragg.
Just like Shamsud-Din Jabbar.
And why was that reporter gal contaminating everything in the house and why wasn’t the door repaired and locked by LE, the landlord, his family or friends?
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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t you mixing up the NOLA and Vegas events?
That’s been my question, why the need for the baby’s DNA when they have his on record and his toothbrush, comb, coffee cup, his entire house to get it. So, they’re lying. If the body doesn’t match his DNA, then we have another problem.
If the wife left him, she sure eliminated every little piece of a female and baby ever having been in the house. It looked like a bachelor’s house. Guessing you saw the video of the house being wide open begging for that reporter and a million other folks to contaminate it. If she was mad at him, why were they texting about the cyber truck and how cool it was? What explanation did he give her why he rented it? What was his explanation of the bomb building?
Benny Johnson has an interesting short show yesterday putting out the similarities between this guy, the NOLA guy, and wannabe assassin Routh.
The first two has Fort Bragg in common.
Also Routh has visited Fort Bragg 147 times, sometimes overnight. Who authorized his visits? Who authorized his overnight stays? I wonder if that has been scrubbed yet?
It appears there’s some major treasonous activity being organized at that facility.
Yes, it was not a bomb, it was a fireworks display. Literally. The sole intent was to make a big scene, but not to do severe damage.
He sent a picture of the cybertruck to a girlfriend or ex-girlfriend with the words, “I feel like Batman or Halo.” That makes the theories a little harder to believe. They aren’t impossible or impossible to believe, but possibly he was just a guy who wanted to go out with a bang.
Who said the balloons were Chinese? Sure, we let at least two enemy balloons fly from one coast to the other and never lifted a finger. That’s a bit hard to swallow. Glad the Chinese took Thanksgiving off and followed FAA rules with the drones. Claiming they are Chinese is an excuse to start WWIII.
I’d say creating this Disease X is enough reason.
Looks that way to me, too.
Yes, there’s too much to process and too many inconsistencies for anybody to be comfortable with any explanation of what really happened.
Fort Bragg.
“Claiming they are Chinese is an excuse to start WWIII.”
Lol.
If the claims are true this has been going on for months if not years—important but hardly urgent.
Bkmk
He (if it was him) wrote out that long email but couldn’t include a short paragraph on specifically what his mysterious message to Trump and Elon was and why he was going to blow up a perfectly good car. Not a serious warning that leaves everyone scratching their heads.
Sure, don’t you always bring along your military ID and passport to show the Mexican cartel.
I haven’t seen any video. I’ve been working and it’s hard for me to see anything on youtube. We don’t have cable and I couldn’t stomach any of the “news” even if we had it. So I’m just getting bits and pieces here on FR. And what I’ve seen references “interviews” but doesn’t say who the interviews were with. Have they interviewed the wife? Where are they getting this information?
To be truthful, I’m beginning to understand agnostics because when there’s no way to verify claims and no way to know who can be trusted every claim results in “Meh. Maybe true, maybe not. Who knows?”
It’s a very, very yucky place to be in.
Past experience is pretty valid on making presumptions about similar events. “Problematic data” is, many times, insufficient or inaccurate data, presented as fact with no other backing than ‘I said so’.
Blowing yourself up in a rented cybertruck with fireworks isn’t a “common sense” thing to do. So, on it’s face, it looks like something a kookamook would do. I think I’ll be safe sticking with that until REAL FACTS are more widely known that show anything otherwise.
“there’s no way to verify claims and no way to know who can be trusted”
That discomfort you are feeling is the early stages of wisdom.
It means you have to work harder to figure out what is true.
That is a much better place to be in than believing whatever authority figures tell you.
Thanks. That’s what I meant; didn’t even realize I put the wrong thing. Thanks for the correction.
Yep, the best way to destroy a hotel is to park outside with a vehicle that’ll contain a small blast. Someone didn’t remember Oklahoma City. Or this was all theater.
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