Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76
Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:
There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:
He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.
He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.
He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.
He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.
Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?
The front windows of the building did not even break.
The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?
Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.
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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.
Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.
I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.
Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.
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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.
He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.
We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.
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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.
Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.
@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.
Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.
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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.
Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.
We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.
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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.
Tell me how this smells…
I hadn’t considered the Uke angle.
That is a gutsy move. I guess Z thinks Trump will get scared and shovel him some more money so he can continue to fight Russia?
I don’t think it will yield the result he might be looking for!
But we need to know if they were really his emails. If they were sent after Dec 29th (and I believe they were sent on Dec 31st), then they are emails crafted by whoever changed his Signal info, and reflect what THAT PERSON/AGENCY wants us to think he said.
That’s why we first need to find out who changed his Signal info on Dec 29th and then again on Jan 1st after he was already dead.
After reading the X thread at your link...
It seems that the first safety number change was to be expected if he just came from Germany to the US. Swapping his SIM card at that time to get on the US cell network would force the change. It still would mean that we can’t 100% trust the comms made in Signal after that but it doesn’t necessarily mean something nefarious happened at that time.
It wouldn’t have any impact on the trustworthiness of any email or text communication. Those comms could just have easily been fabricated before or after the Signal number change than if there were no signal number change at all.
The change that occurred after he was dead also doesn’t really mean anything other than the fact that Signal is compromised by law enforcement. If there was any instance where a company would comply with law enforcement to allow them to take over an account, I would think that after a bombing would be one instance.
So the story goes.
Daddy Bush attacked Reagan policies, particularly his economic policy calling it voodoo economics.
Unlike Trump's pick of Vance who attacked Trump personally and viciously by crossing the line with a Nazi and Hitler comparison.
I don't trust Vance because of the Never Trump hate speech he displayed against the guy who chose him to be his running mate.
I doubt however if Vance was forced on Trump.
I suspect Trump may have put too much weight on Don Jr.'s opinion as he had evidently become best buds with Vance.
I am not sure Don Jr.'s political judgment is any better than his judgment on picking mates.
But what father doesn't have a blind spot when it comes to their kids.
In Trump's first term he put too much trust in the mannequin Ivanka and her husband.
Thank you
Youtube discussion about possibility Matt Livelsberger is alive starting at the point of this discussion.
(This is the section that I watched. I have not had time for the other sections.)
Sam Shoemate - Cybertruck Bomber Matt Livelsberger’s Email Reveals NEW Evidence
00:00 Introduction and Gifts
05:26 The Shocking Email
09:49 The Manifesto
15:10 Unveiling the Gravitic Propulsion System
20:17 Connecting the Dots
28:25 FBI and CID Involvement
35:28 Tesla Incident Theory
40:18 Drone and UAP Concerns
52:32 Iranian Missiles and Border Security
58:43 Call to Action for Community Safety
"Sam Shoemate is an intelligence officer and Chief Warrant Officer 2 (US Army, Retired). On December 31st, Sam received an email allegedly from Matthew Livelsberger - who would be named as the perpetrator in the detonation of a Tesla Cybertruck at Trump Tower the following day. In this episode of the Shawn Ryan Show, Shoemate brings forward critical information and allegations that cast doubt on the “mainstream” narratives surrounding this event - and many others - if true."
Short clip on Telegram
https://t.me/realKarliBonne/28175
Yeah. Remember how mad they were at Snowden?
I think they were so mad because he told the American people.
America’s adversaries probably would have known all that stuff already.
If you go to the X link posted earlier...
https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875338551560229157
...even the person who disclosed the fact that the Signal number changed says that the first change is to be expected. According to reports, he had just traveled from Germany back to the US and very likely would have swapped his SIM card when he got back stateside to work on the US cell networks.
All that would prove is that you can’t 100% fully trust the Signal comms after that. It DOESN’T mean that for 100% certainty, the comms are fraudulent.
The signal info change after his death could be Signal cooperating with law enforcement to get into his account to help in their investigation.
It sure would be nice if we could trust law enforcement and/or government agencies. Access to take over an account for investigative purposes also provides access to fabricate/alter records.And if the FBI has all the encryption keys already, then - as you say - there wouldn’t even have to be a safety number change for messages to be fabricated.
Sigh. I hate what these thugs have done to us. For all practical purposes we have no law enforcement, because the law enforcement we supposedly have could just as easily keep doing the lies and fabrications they’ve already been caught in before. Until all that junk from the past is sorted out and prosecuted, we have no law enforcement that we the people can trust. This whole thing just proves, IMHO, that we are not ABLE to move forward until we genuinely and truthfully deal with the recent crimes by the Obama and Biden regimes.
Hey G-man, good to see you’re keeping your on-topic grade up. Took my advice I see.
One of my favorite conspiracy theories is that the Intelligence Agencies dump lots of idiotic conspiracy theories all over the Internet to discredit conspiracy theories in general.
It was supposedly said by FBI to Shawn Ryan,
Shawn mentions it in his podcast
How is the news from the Shawn Ryan Show yesterday not making the news around here? He didn’t do a terrorist act, it was a to send a message about a military coverup.
Trump apparently didn’t pick the mothers of his children for their brains.
Apparently there’s more hope for Baron.
What you are describing is the de-Nazification of federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
Notice that after World War II the only way we could effectively de-Nazifi the Gestapo and SS was to eliminate them.
There is a lesson there.
Looks like you got it all figured out though, with limited data?
The fact that much of it conflicts with common sense is no problem for you?
The fact that this problematic data has in many cases been provided by shady actors and LEOs is of no concern to you?
Isn’t there something on TV you should be watching?
If they have his phone, would law enforcement need Signal to do anything else for their investigation?
And do phones typically survive accelerant-aided fires that burn a victim beyond identifiability?
Actually Sam Shoemate showed the signal safety number changed a day AFTER the explosion
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