Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76
Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:
There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:
He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.
He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.
He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.
He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.
Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?
The front windows of the building did not even break.
The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?
Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.
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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.
Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.
I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.
Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.
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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.
He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.
We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.
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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.
Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.
@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.
Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.
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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.
Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.
We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.
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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.
Tell me how this smells…
Thanks, I didn’t know that.
I was just going on intuition and observation.
That most certainly introduces a major problem. Because it seems to confirm that there is an active operation to deceive afoot.
I’m all for skepticism. However, this one runs deep; on the edge of flat earth societies. Patsy is repeated at length in the article but fails to cite patsy for who or even what. It’s a reach of a conspiracy. Some just can’t accept there are whackadoodles out there that do things for litttle to absolutely no reason at all.
He was there because they forced him on Reagan.
If the email was phony that raises many more interesting questions.
Who wants the public to believe the drones are Chinese—and why?
I know, and that was the grain of truth inserted.
The rest of it, gravity drive, unlimited payload, etc. is, in my opinion, intended to introduce the conspiracy theory moniker to the discussion.
When that is introduced in any way, many people’s mental response is to shut their brain off for the night and go to bed.
Quite a clever and successful psyop on humans.
Just shut ‘em down when you don’t want them thinking. We have got to wake up and fight through that.
He wanted to send a warning to Trump and Musk, possibly as a precursor to something more dire.
And Cyber*ucks are not bullet proof, they are bullet resistant.
No, you are not thinking like Zelensky.
Zelensky has to accept defeat, give-up territory to Russia in order for Trump to negotiate a stop to the war.
The only message I see here is Z is going to continue fighting.
See my post here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4287924/posts?page=22#22
I want to see the FBI and CIA abolished.
Their ability and willingness to conduct psychological operations on the American people is a bridge too far.
They need to be gone.
and just like that, another distraction from the issue of PTSD.
I honestly believe people are so bored and empty they dream up stuff like this to add excitement to their lives. The more intrigue and mystery, the better.
Yes, the fog of war is thick.
I have no idea what has really been going on these last 10 years or so, but am sure moves and counter-moves are being made.
I think it has to do with China declaring they would take over the world (or was it just the US?) without firing a shot.
And the 6th dimension of warfare, which is the space where this one is being fought, in my opinion.
Sure, Jarhead.
We’ll have to agree to disagree.
The only thing that makes sense to me if he wanted to destroy the hotel, is that he thought the batteries would catch fire. That would have caused quite a bit of damage since they burn so hot and are difficult to extinguish. Otherwise why bother? What makes more sense is that he was shot before hand, and the shooter escaped, except how did he avoid cameras? This whole thing stinks.
Who, you mean the guy that did it or the people trying to figure out what happened?
If the gov agencies (FIBs +) control his Signal account, then they can control his email account(s).
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*A FReeper I’ve known for almost forty years had been trying for several years to get me to move to Signal since his defense contractor employer had FIB approval to use such.
For me, joining Signal would be throwing a flag to the FIBs since they would have all the encryption keys.
It is extremely dangerous for anyone to believe their communications are secret.
The more they believe it the more likely they are to do something really dumb.
Carrier pigeons may be safe.
Suicide is a huge problem in the military & veteran community. Suicide is irrational behavior so why would anybody be surprised that it would be undertaken in an irrational way. Conspiracy theorists who see a government agent behind every blade of grass, seem to ignore that.
It is all predicate on how you want to view the message he wanted discussion to be about. It wasn't his actions at all that he wanted people to focus on. Had he created real damage, then his message would be ignored. So focus on his message, not his actions.
Matthew competed on a reality TV show years ago. He was also a bodyguard to an ambassador. A recent assignment took him to Ukraine. He was working “with drones” at the time of his death.
Here’s the reality show:
https://youtu.be/9n1wdfJouSg?si=zLnbG_0kcvd3Rr0N
Sometimes suicide can be induced by government conspiracies.
Here is one example that is very well documented:
https://www.amazon.com/Project-Beta-Bennewitz-National-Security/dp/0743470923
Psyops are the specialty of Ft Hood, where this guy, Ryan Routh, and the New Orleans terrorist all spent time.
And it seems to me that the army spokesperson who spoke on the podcast was doing disinformation, claiming that Matt’s child is not his own as shown by DNA testing. Why would the military do DNA testing, or why would they know about any DNA testing done on Matt’s child? I presume that’s not something they would have in a file even if Matt himself had had testing done, so why would an army spokesperson come out with this? It doesn’t make sense. If Matt was receiving any kind of counseling through the military, that could be discloseable, but to disclose something like this? But the people who knew him said he was solid.
I think we need to get to the bottom of how his encryption stuff was changed. Who did it, when, how, and why? We need to know that. Everything else that comes out means nothing, until we are able to know what is really from him and what is from somebody wanting us to think it was him.
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