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Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Thread Reader ^ | Jan 2 , 2025 | Green Beret Nap Time

Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76

Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?

Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:

There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:

He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.

He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.

He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.

He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.

Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?

The front windows of the building did not even break.

The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?

Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.

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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.

Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.

I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.

Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.

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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.

He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.

We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.

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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.

Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.

@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.

Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.

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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.

Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.

We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.

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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.

Tell me how this smells…


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To: george76

He used the word “fireworks” in his letter with the implication that it was to capture attention. Plus, if you’re knowingly sick enough to plan your own suicide by gun, a 50 Cal is a great choice vs the easier 22lr or 9mm. His being mentally ill is not some fantastical stretch of the imagination here. Willfully being a patsy, for whatever fantasy the writer is conjuring here, is.


21 posted on 01/04/2025 6:46:47 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: larrytown

Either he was sane and all this is a truthful report as he sees it, or he’s nuts and it’s a hodge-podge of fact and comic book fiction. Not enough data to know which at this time.


22 posted on 01/04/2025 6:46:53 AM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Now you’re just boring us


23 posted on 01/04/2025 6:47:36 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: george76

Looks like a message from the military to Trump and Elon?


24 posted on 01/04/2025 6:47:44 AM PST by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: EBH

Yeah, but shouldn’t he have done it in Delaware in a Chinese car then?

‘Cause Trump said he’s going to stop the killin’.


25 posted on 01/04/2025 6:48:47 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: george76

The tin foil is extremely shiny for this writer.


26 posted on 01/04/2025 6:49:12 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: george76

Thank you for posting this as its own thread. Needs to be read, by all.


27 posted on 01/04/2025 6:49:20 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jane Long

Thank you


28 posted on 01/04/2025 6:50:16 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Not anyone’s patsy, just a guy who went off the deep end mentally. Some people need everything to be a conspiracy.


29 posted on 01/04/2025 6:50:21 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "MURICA!")
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To: bigbob

No, there could also be a third party involved and his only involvement is being the dead guy.


30 posted on 01/04/2025 6:50:30 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: george76; Lakeside Granny

Lara Logan
@laralogan

You don’t have to be a genius to spot that this email is filled with media talking points and smacks of a staged cover up. From civilian casualties/war crimes to drones on the East Coast, there is something for everyone here. I would bet good money this guy never write a single word of this crap.

And incredibly, we’re supposed to believe that two paper letters survived the explosion inside the vehicle (where accelerant was used) and a guy who repeatedly talks about making it to Mexico shot himself in the head before blowing himself up…

Jesus wept. Is this the best the CIA can do?

https://x.com/laralogan/status/1875417317959418268


31 posted on 01/04/2025 6:51:06 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I’m not a conspiracy theorist ... oh, wait....maybe I am, and, so far....most of the so called “conspiracies” have proven to be true ... but, I don’t believe in coincidences....especially this many coincidences.


32 posted on 01/04/2025 6:52:32 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jarhead9297

Hello, welcome to life, hope you have a good time going forward in on Jan, 1, 0000. Same day as it was yesterday morning and same day as it will be tomorrow morning.

You should start writing yourself notes.


33 posted on 01/04/2025 6:53:21 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: george76

So was the guy dead before the truck was parked there? That is driven by someone else, the corpse moved to the driver’s position and then the so called bomb set off?

There are some very valid points in this article. I can see a real terrorist wanting a powerful hand gun, but a rifle with no ability to aim it?

I’m in agreement this guy could be a patsy. There are too many facts that show incompetence when a SF guy could have done it to perfection and gotten away from it all.

Any moron with half a brain would have used a common kitchen timer rigged to a high energy explosive device and be miles away when it went off. There was no reason for anyone to sit in the vehicle while it exploded.


34 posted on 01/04/2025 6:53:32 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: lee martell
Because the DNA of the corpse does not match the DNA of Livesberger children

The public relations person for the department of the Army told that to Shawn Ryan. They didn't tell him that to indicate the dead person wasn't Livelsberger but rather to suggest that he found out his wife cheated on him and that is why he went off the rails and killed himself.

35 posted on 01/04/2025 6:53:36 AM PST by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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To: nitzy

This Zero Hedge article includes the entire Manifesto:

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/elon-musk-dismisses-cybertruck-bomber-fsd-theory-autopilot-requires-attentive-driver

He is blowing the whistle on Chinese drones in the manifesto.


36 posted on 01/04/2025 6:55:01 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I do not understand this way of thinking.

If a kid lies to his dad 40 times in a row and gets caught, who believes him on the 41st time? Do you? Or do you check it out a little? At least think about it a little harder?


37 posted on 01/04/2025 6:55:20 AM PST by Sarcazmo (Dr. Sarcazmo esq. DDS, CCNA)
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To: george76
Tell me how this smells…

The story stinks worse than bull crap.

38 posted on 01/04/2025 6:56:56 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Biblebelter

Of course, the entire Republican Party eventually elevated that former CIA chief from veep to prez in the WH.


39 posted on 01/04/2025 6:57:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: george76

Michael Hastings
The movie “Swordfish”


40 posted on 01/04/2025 6:57:49 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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