Posted on 01/04/2025 6:19:47 AM PST by george76
Matthew Livelsberger is a patsy, the question is for who and what purpose?
Let's break down why I think this is true by going through everything that we know so far, a thread:
There is still a lot we do not know about Matthew Livelsberger, the alleged Vegas bomber, but here is what we do know and there is a lot that does not add up:
He recently made the E8 list for MSG in 2023 in an 18Z slot, which means he was a Special Forces soldier and if he pinned, would have still been on Active Duty. This also means he was well within his Team Sergeant time.
He was an 18E, Special Forces Communications Sergeant and then went to the Fox course to become an 18F, Intelligence Sergeant before making the E8 list.
He also apparently was Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (SUAS) qualified, which implies he had training as a drone pilot. I'm submitting a FOIA request for his military records, but expect that to take some time.
He rented the Cybertruck from Turo, the same company that the NOLA terrorist used. The back of the truck was full of mortar fireworks, gasoline canisters, and campfire fuel canisters, which are all combustible but would not be ideal for an explosion to create maximum damage.
Here is the crazy part, with the level of experience that he had, how does it make sense that he would rent a Cybertruck, which are known to be bulletproof, and fill it with ineffective explosives that he would know would not actually damage much, if anything?
The front windows of the building did not even break.
The other crazy part, his wife, Sara Livelsberger, has multiple anti-Trump posts on her social media from years and years ago. So, if he was radicalized, if this all was an attempt to hurt people and destroy a Trump building, why would he go about it in such an incompetent and ineffective manner?
Lots not adding up here. Will add more as information comes to light.
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The first and most obvious reason is because the police have reported that he died from a GSW to his head 'prior' to the explosion, yet there were no reported gunshots in the 15-20 seconds before the Cybertruck exploded.
Needless to say, it is odd that one would shoot themselves in the head with a 50-caliber Desert Eagle right before blowing themselves up. It simply makes no sense.
I've seen some people saying, "maybe he did not want to burn to death so he shot himself first," but I believe that is silly. Any professional trying to carry out an actual attack would want to ensure their explosion went off without issue. They would not kill themselves before hand and take the chance of wasting the opportunity.
Also, the rifle he supposedly had in the vehicle had no iron sights nor any other optics, which basically makes it worthless for any type of engagement. Another red flag.
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The second reason is because he was a highly experienced Special Forces soldier that would not have created such an abomination of an explosive device that was both silly and ineffective.
He was SF for long enough to have used a CARVER matrix and to understand basic explosives. If the intent was political, the intent was missed due to the second-rate explosive he supposedly used.
We are trained in Home Made Explosives (HMEs). He could have gotten everything he needed from a local hardware store to level the entire bottom floor of the Trump hotel. There is simply no way he thought the combustibles he had in the back of that bulletproof truck would have been enough to do any damage to anything.
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The third reason is that his Signal safety number changed just before the explosion, and then somehow his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion.
Clearly this was manipulated by somebody other than him, as he was deceased and would not have been able to change anything. Find who changed his signal info and you find who shot him in the head. x.com/APhilosophae/s… The fourth reason is that GBs that knew him are convinced that he could not have done this, nor would have had any reason to do so.
@angertab has also reported that he was approached by someone pretending to be a GB previously on his team, claiming that Matthew was suicidal so that it would be recorded if they reported it.
Again, find who this person is, and you likely find the culprit behind the entire thing.
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The fifth reason is that he was still Active Duty, had just had a 6 month old baby with his new wife, and had a literal multitude of jobs ahead of him when he retired.
Yes, I understand that sometimes people end their own lives for one reason or another and it does not make sense to us, but all of this coupled with the evidence we have so far makes me believe that he was, indeed, a patsy.
We need to see every single piece of evidence from this investigation and if anything is withheld, then it only further confirms my suspicions that this was a setup to frame one of our best soldiers with a heinous crime.
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Also, on a side note, the 50 cal shot to his head ensured that his entire head was little more than splatter, destroying any hope of obtaining and matching dental records in the process.
Tell me how this smells…
If the manifesto about Chinese drones was really his then he was very coherent at a minimum.
Oh, really! If true, he, unfortunately , would not be the first man tricked into raising some other man’s children, without ever knowing the truth.
The tin foil is extremely shiny for this writer.
Only for distractors.
Look what all we’ve witnessed happening over the past 15 years ++.
The only ones calling this ‘tin foil’ and ‘conspiracy theory’ are the ones who believe/promote that gov’t agencies have our best interests at heart.
Well that was quick.
Hey, wasn’t there some kerfuffle about some drones way back like two weeks ago?
Gotta keep the schedule tight or the American mind doesn’t remember. Two weeks is pushing it.
Thanks for the link, I’ll have a look. The investigators were nice enough to excerpt the parts they really wanted to emphasize for us.
Yep.
We cannot trust any of the information contained in the emails or messages from Matt Livelsberger after December 29th when his Signal safety number was changed.
For those of you unfamiliar with Signal, it is a peer to peer encrypted messaging app that assigns you a unique safety number based off of your phone and SIM card.
It only changes if your Signal account is loaded onto a new phone or SIM.
It automatically lets everyone in conversations with you know if your safety number has changed.
Matt’s changed on the 29th.
All information sent by Matt after the 29th must be treated as misinformation. The emails to Shawn and Sam were sent on the 31st.
Why hasn’t this been addressed?
https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1875338551560229157
His drone claims (Chinese drones) are worth discussing.
They would explain blatant .gov lying since .gov never likes to acknowledge gaping holes in national defense.
His method of delivering the message was also reasonable and clever.
My thinking exactly. I’m not a veteran but have a lot of friends who retired from the army and know enough to know this scenario smells to high heaven.
I don’t know if this guy was revealing the truth in his manifesto, I agree with you, we know the government lies to the people on just about everything.
It does amaze me how many on FR dismiss everything and have it all figured out based on nothing but what the government has released about this guy, and we’re supposed to be the Tin Foil Hat Crowd.
Personally, I with you this situation does stink, the guy could have taken down the building but didn’t, we are told he killed himself with a 50-caliber pistol, we all saw the explosion, yet every day we are seeing pictures of things discovered inside the truck, except for the person who was burned beyond recognition.
Until I see more concrete proof either way, I’m not ruling anything in or out.
Interesting. Not buying the email even a little bit. The trouble is, the alleged gripes he has does not match the action taken.
As have said before, he should have driven a Chinese car to Delaware for it to match.
The self driving only being enabled by an attentive person is interesting, but could likely be hacked. If that is possible, it wouldn’t be something that would be spread around.
Yeah, this one is fishy AF.
But then there are the reports saying that his wife left him the day after Christmas saying HE was unfaithful. And the reports saying she hadn’t seen him at all in the few days before he rented the vehicle.
IOW, none of the stories match but they all seem to be developing their own narrative for why he did this, if indeed he did this.
Somebody needs to develop a timeline of data points we know to be accurate. For instance, on what day was the encryption key changed, on what date was the email sent, on what date was the vehicle rented (and by whom, using what contact info), etc.
It will tell us a lot when Musk gets the video from the vehicle.
Why would anybody test the dead guy’s DNA against Livelsberger’s children, when the military has DNA on file for identification purposes in the case of death? How would they even get the DNA of any children? That would require a warrant, I would think, and what possible reason could they give for a warrant? Why is the public relations person for the department of the Army saying stuff like this? The whole thing smells of cover-up and narratives being manufactured.
It would be really nice if we had sources we could trust, but the people whose only real job is to be credible have long ago sold that birthright for a bowl of soup. So we’re left with nobody to trust, which means that any enemy who wants to come in and confuse the nation can do it very, very easily. It’s a national security risk, created deliberately by the people who are supposed to be protecting us. And instead of dealing with this as if it meant anything, our govt has instead called US the crazy people.
Find out who has the authority to change numbers. Start there.
So what do we know about his actions/movements/communications before the safety number changed?
Thank you for this information!
That was the part I didn’t understand.
So how do we know it changed? Which messages were sent with the old number and have been made public?
Do any of them indicate anything suspicious was happening?
With a lot of help from Lee Atwater who evidently helped script that phony Clint Eastwood impersonation of "Read my lips, no new taxes."
That and making mincemeat of a doofus like Dukakis which was not rocket science.
Daddy Bush got his comeuppance.
When your campaign for the first term rests solely on the pledge made, your campaign for the second term rests solely on the pledge broken.
Dear fbi, this wasn’t a terror attack. I mean it. Sincerely, dead assclown.
Amen
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