Posted on 03/11/2024 4:40:06 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Fifty people were injured onboard a Boeing plane Monday, with some smashing into the ceiling when it “suddenly nosedived” mid-flight.
This marks the latest disaster for Boeing after a wheel fell off one of their planes mid-flight and another skidded off the runway just last week.
As Newsweek noted, a spokesperson for the Chilean airline LATAM told news outlets that a “technical problem” on the flight had harmed passengers and crew members. The airline also claimed the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner experienced a “strong movement” but refused to elaborate.
The airplane was traveling from Sydney, Australia, to Auckland, New Zealand, when the turbulence hit.
Reuters reported a continent of emergency vehicles from Hato Hone St John was called to Auckland Airport at 3:58 local time after the passengers and crew were injured. St. John sent 14 units to the scene, including seven ambulances, two operation managers, two Major Incident Support Team vehicles, one command unit, and two rapid response vehicles.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Probably waiting for this disaster to strike ... so they can nationalize the industry.
Wouldn’t surprise me, with these tyrants.
Where are the Boeing and UAL board members on all of these catastrophes, and, DIE BS??
Great story! Thanks.
I’ve it some good “air pocket” in all years aloft, but nothing like that.
I worked in Brazil and Argentina a bit in the 70s and remember those vivid sunrises over the Caribbean. I’ve never been there to enjoy them on a beach, but they sure were spectacular from 36,000 feet.
I remember when I was 18 taking my first commercial flight home (Philly) from St. Louis. I was just starting my Mechanical Engineering program and had a couple of frosh courses on strength of materials. The plane hit some good turbulence, the kind that really smacks you hard. I was looking out the window and watching the wing go up and down several feet like a bird flapping its wings. That REALLY gave me an appreciation for strong structures. Before I saw that, I figured the wings were rigid and had no flex in them. Boy, was I wrong!
About five years after that, I toured the Boeing 747 assembly plant in Everett, WA and they showed us the test rigs for strength testing aircraft wings to the failure point. We didn’t see an actual test, just a wing all prepared and instrumented for a test. But we saw a great video of the test and I remember thinking “that wing flex I saw in 1969 is NOTHING compared to this!” They must have moved that wing dip up and down 15 or 20 ft or more.
I sure hope today’s aircraft designers are that good!
Maybe that's the plan?
DEI strikes again!
We are on track to match Russia in the air-travel accident race...
“It is usually a chain of events, starting small, which cascade into a major catastrophic event. And human error is one of the largest components.”
Exactly right. It’s most often that cascade of events and people aren’t trained to observe and interpret what’s going on.
Three Mile Island and Chernobyl come to mind. The designers of Fukishima never anticipated a big tsunami knocking out the emergency generators.
I worked at a research institute for years and there was a big “Human Factors” program after TMI to understand how the operators interpreted the data being fed to them during the event. There were big changes in instrumentation, layout, and data presentation after that.
This DIE bullcrap destroys teamwork. It drives people apart and alienates them from each other.
I heard Dan Bongino talk about this video today, and it is spot on, IMO:
LINK: What Happens When You Hire Pronouns People
Few people care what others do in the privacy of their own life outside work. I don't.
I care what people do on the job and I treat them accordingly.
But once people start bringing that idiotic BS into the workplace, that is where my indifference ends.
Good observations! Boeing downfall began when the puke CEO moved their HQ to Chicago. Been downhill in every way ever since.
And Japan is one of the world's most geologically unstable areas on the planet.
The whole idea of the Communist left is to divide the united. Or once united...
“Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner experienced a “strong movement” but refused to elaborate.”
787 MAX ? /sarc
I know. It was absolutely shocking that they couldn’t anticipate the generators getting knocked out.
There can be no hint of 'competitiveness', being as good/better, than the next guy.
A wise man once said....
smh
STILL no detail on the ‘technical problem’.
Enjoy your flight. /s
Pilot fell asleep and smashed their head on the yoke.
Absolutely!
TMI and most especially Chernobyl...those are object lessons in the danger of the human mind. Mentally, the human brain is astonishing in what it is capable of, but humans, being humans, are prone to make mistakes. Especially when things get complicated.
I have often thought of the human brain as having a buffer, where information is stored and processed from. We can do very well when that buffer of information is manageable.
But when that buffer overflows, it takes training, discipline, and intelligence to manage it. And even then, it simply isn't enough.
I always thought the Master Caution light in an airplane was perfect. Pilots are trained that the first thing they must do when that big square light and audible alarm sounds, it to reach out and shut that Master Caution light off.
Not just for the obvious fact that you need to free up that light and alarm to retrigger if a new warning comes in, but the human brain, with the light flashing in the face, and the audible alarm going off, steals brain cycles, if not overtly, but behind the scenes.
And in an airplane cockpit, even rigorous military training and adherence to a procedure for a given situation isn't always enough to keep a human being from trying to improvise and improve the situation. It takes a lot of discipline and training NOT to do that.
An object example of this is the crash of Kara Hultgreen's F-14 Tomcat. (LINK: The REAL Truth About Kara Hultgreen's F-14 Tomcat Mishap
I think this former F-14 RIO, Ward Carroll, does a respectful and informative description of a fatal mishap, but his explanation about why procedures are developed for given situations a pilot may encounter is astonishingly good. (I do disagree with him on integration of the military. That is my opinion.) That said, as this retired Naval Officer points out, these procedures are often developed BECAUSE someone encountered a specific situation.
In the US Navy, the pilot's guide is the NATOPS manual for that plane. And as this Ward Carroll points out, these instructions in those manuals were printed in blood. (When I was in Naval aviation, I remember a Chief getting all the rookies together before the rookies went up on the flight deck for the first time (It has been a while, I have to paraphrase): "When you are working on the flight deck, you may be be taught to do a specific task a very specific way. And it may sound inefficient or stupid. And you may think of a way to do that task faster, easier, and more efficiently. DON'T. Those stupid, inefficient procedures are often done that way because someone was hurt or killed, and that procedure is done that way as the best way to prevent it. Those procedures are often written in blood. And one more thing-I don't want to see any grab-ass or horseplay on the Flight Deck. If I do, you will be sorry."
All that was delivered in a flat, serious, menacing montone. So we took it seriously.
But in the case of Kara Hultgreen, the procedures she was expected to follow were indeed written in blood, prior fatal crashes of Tomcats. And they seem to be pretty onerous processes. Here is the page from the NATOPS manual that describes what to do in the event one of your two engines fail as you are coming in to land:
She probably wasn't a bad pilot, but this is what happens when that buffer in our brains overflows and time speeds up. But pilots train on this kind of thing to the point it is less brain memory and more muscle memory. (Any pilots here can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think I am)
This pilot made every mistake up to to the point of "Landing gear......UP" because by then, the mishap was a done deal and ejecting was the only option.
This is why, when I get on a plane, and see the short gray hair on the back of the pilot's head as I pass the cockpit on my way to my seat, that I feel more at ease. He may not be ex-military, but...he might well be.
Justice Thomas is going to be on my Freep Page shortly as one of my heroes.
I hope I stumble across he and his wife in their camper somewhere, and I get to shake his hand.
There is a series called “Mayday-Air disaster” streaming free on many channels. Anyone who watches those episodes will get a fair good idea of what causes major airline crashes. It can be the plane, it can be the control tower. But the vast majority of them are pilot error. Stupid mistakes.
what makes it hard with Boeing is that they basically committed mass murder multiple times because the design flaws they produced with MCAS were so severe and negligent that even a 10 year old in my day could have seen it coming.
Even so I don’t agree with blaming them for things until all the facts are in. I am sure you are right about the DEI thing. It also equivalent to farming much of their software out to India which was a huge part(conceptually) in causing those 737 Max Disasters. But it was not the only cause.
I still believe that the stab switches should have a purely electric manual position(Not just auto, and off). And they did not change that. They should be able to fly by yoke alone if need be. That one change alone could have saved those planes. The pilots could have maintained reasonable control while telling the software that crashed the plane to F off. Just one more position on a mechanical toggle switch would have saved those planes.
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